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Post by BoltAction308 on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 09:10

I figure a few of us have or continue to attend group therapy sessions for their respective diagnosis'. I'm not a fan of group sessions simply because when i attended them in Ontario, I always found them to be pissing contests as to who had it worse than the other in the group. I've attended 2 to 3 different group sessions specifically because of this reason and no matter what, it always seemed to turn into a pissing contest so i just stopped going to them and now see a psych on a one on one basis.

Has anyone else noticed these pissing contests in a group setting? Or am I just unlucky and happened to find groups where it's just a bitch-session?

I don't doubt group settings work incredibly well for others and there's certainly a need for a group setting, but for me I found that they made me feel more anxious and wound up AFTER the session than I was BEFORE the session.

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Post by Rags on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 09:22

I had exactly same issue and left group after only a few sessions. I was in Halifax at time. My doc asked me what was issue I tried to explain the scope of the problem pissing contest on who's worse is one good way to discribe it. I suggested to her that she should group the groups. For example some if not all find it frustrating and hard to relate to a person with issues from a specific incident when others were at same incident and have no issues but that person has issues from another incident which is much worse. So my suggestion was to group people with similar issues and incidents so they can understand and accept each other better.
I also found when people in a group spoke of an issue if it was a horrible issue others that had vastly less incidents would go silent and not get there issues out for fear of appearing less. This last issue was a huge factor for me leaving cause I was impeeding others from speaking and getting help they needed by just letting it out..

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Post by puddleduk2 on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 10:05

i experienced similiar circumstances when i spent 4+ months in Homewood Health Centre (former Sanatorium),

and found that as they lumped three of us former cf in a trauma group for discussion with a group of civilians,

we were setting each other off and the civilians couldnt comprehend the issues and horrors we were dealing with,

the health centre thought they were doing us a favour by grouping us together, and yet it was worse..

I have avoided group sessions from those experiences of any kind since..

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Post by Rags on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 10:49

You sound like ya need theraphy for just being where ya were getting help. feel for ya brother. affraid

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Post by puddleduk2 on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 11:38

just found out last week that all the cm's that i have had since 2008 could have forwarded my name off for any of the OSI clinics,

not 100% certain, but from what they said i take that forwarding your name for help originates either from your vac cm, or from within the cf while in..

they havent mentioned a single word on them, not that they exist or on what they offer,

my peer support mentioned the clinics and described the support they get from them on an ongoing basis,

clinic sounded good, and will wait to see if they can forward my name for help there..rather than wait for my cm to get their act together..


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Post by Rags on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 12:07

Any OSSIS clinic will be of great support try and find one on a base that suites your time in CF as you will meet more people in your boat. When I was in Halifax as a combat soldier all I really saw in group were sailors and pilots or admin staff. Mix was not very effective for me or them. If ya cant then a OSIS clinic outside your trade area is better then no clinic at all.

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Post by BoltAction308 on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 18:24

I had a bad experience with OSSIS and they left a really bad taste in my mouth. Now in all fairness, this was during the early stages of OSSIS and chances are they've come a long way since my experience.

Here goes ... I while back I was approached by a certain OSSIS member who pretty much guaranteed me a job with OSSIS to talk to others in a peer setting. I was asked to get back to him in 2 weeks on whether I wanted to do it. Well 2 weeks to the day, I contact "buddy" and leave a voice message that I am interested. He EMAILS me with a list of places for me to contact to offer assistance, and this is no lie, one of the places was literally tying ribbons onto balloons with mentally handicapped adults! WTF! I was livid and insulted beyond belief and I let him know in know uncertain terms that I was not impressed! He claimed he didn't know that's what the job was about.

I can laugh about it now though, but I remember getting off the phone and turning to my wife and telling her what had just happened. The lady when I called to ask about the programme was talking to me like I was a little kid and she was overly friendly with me. Then it occurred to me ... This lady thought she was talking to a special needs adult!

Oh man, was i ever pissed that day! It certainly didn't do me much good for my confidence that's for sure! LOL

Needless to say, that was my last interaction with OSSIS.
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Post by Rags on Sun 27 Jan 2013, 21:49

I hate to say it Bolt but im LMFAO Laughing

Well OSSIS is all we have Stephan Granier stole the idea and cause he did not create OSSIS but claims he did he F'd up the whole program from its original concept. Greedy prick just wanted a good per to be promoted so he stole a great idea. Nice idea poor execution. I can also blame the Navy who wanted control of the program that was being created by an Army guy. SO they the Navy could look good after Swiss Air and the Admiral would get a promotion too. Idiots....im I just a little touchy on this....ya I am truth hurts Stephy baby!

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Post by BoltAction308 on Mon 28 Jan 2013, 05:07

I can confirm with you Rags, it was during the days of Stephane. He was an intense dude wasn't he? Very Happy

I can laugh at it all now as well. Very Happy
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Post by Rags on Mon 28 Jan 2013, 09:16

He is a total waste of space. If everyone out there knew the true story behind OSSIS and what it was being built for and how it was designed to work and know the fact that Stephane had nothing to do with OSSIS until he over heard the idea and how it was being built. He ran to his boss and sold the concept to him while it was being delivered by another to the army commander. So when it took off with command approval it was the navy in a race with the army to build it. Since it was in Halifax they moved quicker and implemented it. Problem is Stephane had no idea why it was being done or the reason he just saw a good idea he could build his future with. This OSSIS is a mess because of Stephane and Doc Jetly who are both the biggest losers on the planet.

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Post by BoltAction308 on Mon 28 Jan 2013, 14:39

I always wondered why he was allowed to stay in the CF yet was more fawked up than I was! Ever shake his hand? That was a weird experience! He'd have this Kung Fu grip on the handshake and would be right weird about it.

Then they promoted him! WTF! And I got a 3B??? Makes no sense to me that's for sure.
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Post by Sapper Zodiak on Tue 29 Jan 2013, 14:01

I did my first "pain clinic" in Thunder Bay in 1999. Part of our therapy was group, where we assembled in a circle and told of our life experiences and injuries. It seemed almost, that I was lying by telling of our daily lives in the military. People just couldn't accept the training and danger we encounter as routine. I quit this group after a couple sessions. I don't think mixing the two, military and civilians, is ever a good idea. They simply don't get it.
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Post by peep on Tue 29 Jan 2013, 16:00

Anyone see my brush?
My face is in a knot
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Post by Guest on Thu 31 Jan 2013, 14:26

Peeps the hamsters stole it again!
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Post by expara on Fri 01 Feb 2013, 14:27

Yup. I was in Homewood in 2005 and it was pretty messed up because we would be more fucked up coming out of a session then when we started it. And yes it can be a pissing contest and you need to put on your helmet for some of the stories
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