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Post by Ex Member on Thu 26 Jul 2012, 14:01

I heard in the news that VAC was going to be starting to give VIP(house keeping and groundskeeping) by way of lump sum for the year and there will be no need to submit receipts to blue cross. Any idea when this new policy take effects.
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Post by bigrex on Thu 26 Jul 2012, 20:26

It is true, but I don't know when the policy will take effect. There will be two deposits made per year, equaling whatever you were entitled to annually for the those services, regardless, if whether you used the maximum or not. The only problem now is, the Veterans will be responsible for ensuring that those monies are not spent on other things before there services are provided, instead of billing VAC directly. Currently, my house cleaning service bills VAC directly so I never see the invoice. Even the service providers do not know how things will operate after the change.
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Post by teentitan on Fri 27 Jul 2012, 00:31

The plan is to start it in the fall of this year. When your contract number is up for renewal, as it is every year, you will get the lump sum deposited twice a year.

KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS IN CASE THEY WANT PROOF. This program was tried before in the early/mid nineties and it was a classic FUBAR. So be safe and cover yer arse.

As for direct billing VVi has been trying to get info if this program will stay in effect but our calls and email's have gone unanswered. We will continue to ask until we get a yea or nay.
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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Dec 2012, 16:25

Hi i spoke with VAC on this matter the new policy starts 1 Jan 2013.

Mine will not start until Dec 2013. So what ever your anniversary date is that is when it starts.

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Post by teentitan on Mon 10 Dec 2012, 17:04

I'm pretty busy right now so I'll give you the highlights. The VIP Grant begins on 1 Jan 2013. A clients first VIP Grant deposit will happen on their contract renewal date (call NCCN and ask). Your second VIP Grant will be deposited 6 months later.

I have more info but I'm still trying to get info before I can fully explain to help everyone "plan" their housekeeping/groundskeeping.
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Post by georges dumont on Tue 11 Dec 2012, 10:11

called to check my start date and get more info on house cleaning, I have hiread a gleaning lady for about 7 years but was never authorised. So alows payed out of pocket. In the past 7 or 8 years my VAC rep told me I was TO YOUNG and that my WIFE WAS FIT so I did not qualify. When I said that to the rep that answered me yesterday she said that this had nothing to do whit it. She will have somebody call me back for a reassesment. Boy am I pissed of I trusted my VAC rep and he scr---wed me! Please every body check the facts before believing anybody.

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Love to know who your rep is

Post by Guest on Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:43

georges dumont wrote:called to check my start date and get more info on house cleaning, I have hiread a gleaning lady for about 7 years but was never authorised. So alows payed out of pocket. In the past 7 or 8 years my VAC rep told me I was TO YOUNG and that my WIFE WAS FIT so I did not qualify. When I said that to the rep that answered me yesterday she said that this had nothing to do whit it. She will have somebody call me back for a reassesment. Boy am I pissed of I trusted my VAC rep and he scr---wed me! Please every body check the facts before believing anybody.

It is common they say the spouse or significant other is fit to perform the tasks you can't. I'd love to know if your rep you speak of is the Case Manager? Many If not all CM's state if your significant other is fit then anyone applying will be denied. But here's the argument. If your an injured male and you are getting grounds maintenance with a healthy wife...is the wife supposed to clean the yard and do other outside chores as well? She is supposed to do laundry and carry baskets up the stairs and down but can't rake the yard? This to me is stereotyping. A man does laundry too. So what they're saying is...the healthy spouse can do laundry but cant do yard maintenance? If someone recieves grounds maintenance, they should recieve housekeeping. Makes sense doesn't it? Just because the healthy spouse is not disabled, should they have to do everything?

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Post by teentitan on Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:53

As of today the VIP Grant is still going to start in 2013 on the clients contract renewal date.

Your first deposit will be half of your previous years claimed. Eg if you submitted receipts for groundskeeping and housekeeping in 2011/2012 totally $4400 your first deposit is $2200.

Your second deposit will be calculated. I'm still working on getting all the info on 'how' they calculate it and all the factors so everyone can hire within the amount deposited to eliminate/alleviate out of pocket expenses.

I am dealing with departments of VAC I have never heard of. Then again if I knew every department in VAC my head would explode! LOL

Will try to get answers as soon as I can.
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VIP for snow removal

Post by meathead on Fri 04 Jan 2013, 17:34

Can anyone tell me the going or average price they are getting or paying for snow removal. I have a 400 foot gravel driveway that is down hill. I live in Nova Scotia. Thanks
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Post by froggie2u36 on Fri 04 Jan 2013, 17:50

Hi Tom...we are in Nova Scotia as well and i have a circular drive and i pay 50$....my sister has a long drive and pays 40$ Hope that helps....guess it depends on who you get.

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Post by meathead on Fri 04 Jan 2013, 18:26

Thanks froggie I am really looking for the whole season price from anywhere in Canada.
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Post by oiler on Mon 25 Feb 2013, 20:58

I see this is an old post but Georges did you get anywhere with this??? I am in the same case ... Also how do they pay our grounds keeping I get 1347 around there and was wondering what others are getting and my property is 10acres big driveway etc. does this matter????

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Post by RCN-Retired on Tue 26 Feb 2013, 07:51

Not sure why VAC will not continue to allow direct billing for housekeeping, much easier for me the vet then them sending me money and then me having to pay the cleaning service, have been a VIP client for several years and have never had to pay first then claim. I have had to pay first then claim for yard maintenance, snow removal, window and gutter cleaning etc. VAC should continue to allow the direct billing for housekeeping and have the veteran receive in advance the funds that they have had to pay first and claim later items. After all they say they want to make it easier and less confusing. No confusion if once a week the cleaning lady comes and you do not have to worry about them billing you and you paying and VAC checking up on a person. Also what happens if you say claimed say $1,500 for yard maintenance last year but this year it costs you $1,800? Do you get to submit for the extra $300? Cheers.
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Post by Guest on Tue 26 Feb 2013, 10:20

RCN, this is what I found online regarding the reasonings according to the Veterans Affairs Minister Steven Blaney for the lastest changes to the VIP policies. I can say for me it will help because I have to pay out of pocket first and then submit receipts as my provider wants the money at time of service rendered. I can understand your concerns as well though. What is not mentioned is that this new policy will be a financial cost saving measure for Veterans Affairs for staffing issues which we understand is downsizing currently. I am concerned that this advance payment policy could be an issue for some veterans due to financial contraints already experiencing and the funds may be used elsewhere due to need. Sparrow

Veterans Affairs Minister Steven Blaney is Cutting Red Tape for Veterans and their Families

Halifax The Honourable Steven Blaney, Minister of Veterans Affairs, announced today another component of the "Cutting Red Tape for Veterans" initiative. With the new changes, Veterans will receive up-front payments for grounds maintenance and housekeeping services offered under the Veterans Independence Program (VIP). Veterans will no longer have to submit receipts for these two popular services. This eliminates cumbersome paperwork for Veterans and puts money into their hands faster, so they can remain independent in their own homes.

"This change is another concrete example of our Government's commitment to cutting red tape for Veterans," said Minister Blaney. "Veterans have told us they want a more hassle-free service from the Department and we are taking action. The new payments will eliminate unnecessary paperwork for approximately 100,000 Veterans and their families."

Once the changes are in effect, Veterans who receive grounds maintenance and housekeeping services through VIP will no longer have to obtain, track and submit receipts to receive the financial support they need. The payments will be based on an individual's needs and the local going rates for these services. Veterans will receive two payments each year. By replacing multiple reimbursements with simple up-front payments, Veterans Affairs Canada will ensure that Veterans will no longer face paying for expenses and being out of pocket while waiting to be reimbursed. These changes will also eliminate millions of transactions between Veterans and the Department.

"Our Government will continue to cut cumbersome red tape to provide our Veterans with the best possible service," said Minister Blaney. "Our Veterans served our country with pride and conviction so we can live in a better world. Our Government will continue to make changes so that Veterans receive the benefits and services they deserve without bureaucratic delays. We are making paperwork a thing of the past. By offering up-front payments, Veterans get the immediate support they need."

"The changes to the VIP program announced by Minister Blaney will make life easier for Veterans," said Gordon Jenkins, President of the NATO Veterans Organization of Canada. "Instead of having to submit individual receipts and burn up bureaucratic processing time, Veterans will now receive a grant to cover the cost. This benefits everyone."

For more information on the Veterans Independence Program and other services and benefits available to Veterans, visit veterans.gc.ca.

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As a result of these changes, Veterans will receive up-front payments for grounds maintenance and housekeeping services offered under the Veterans Independence Program (VIP). This will replace the current payment process where those receiving support must obtain and submit receipts in order to receive reimbursements.

Once these changes are in effect, Veterans currently receiving these VIP benefits will have their payments converted to the new up-front payment system for housekeeping and grounds maintenance services when their contribution arrangement comes up for renewal.

The new up-front payments for housekeeping and grounds maintenance services will be based on each individual's needs and the local going rates for these services.

Veterans will receive their up-front payments through two instalments each year.


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Post by teentitan on Tue 26 Feb 2013, 11:00

On the General Info tab 3 stories down ( http://www.veteranvoice.info/bulletinboard.htm) there is and explanation about the new VIP grant system. The tables are there for the province you live in so that you "budget and hire" the service provider that best fits.
These are the same tables, calculation that have been used for years by your VAC CM when calculating your needs.
IMPORTANT INFO to remember if your pensioned condition gets worse and your needs change contact your VAC CM ASAP for a re-assessment.

As for the monies being used by some veterans to pay bills or buy their illegal drugs, booze VAC is prepared for the media backlash.

At the Dec 6, 2012 meeting in PEI I brought this very issue up with ADM Hillier and here is the explanation.

VAC cannot pick and choose who gets the grant. Everyone will get it without discrimination.
They know what is going to happen and this is where family and friends need to help. If you know a vet is not using the money then contact VAC and let them know. The clients CM will work with the client to either have a family member take care of the bills or get the client to understand. One positive of this is if the client is addicted or suffering with PTSD this might be the situation to get that client in the proper program.

Here is my personal suggestion to everyone to help managing the grant money.
Open a high interest savings account at your bank. When the grant money is deposited into your existing account move it to the new account. Make a little bit of money in interest over the 6 months.
Review the tables, from the Gen Info Tab on main site, and hire within your budget
When you pay your housekeeper/lawncare move the money out of the high interest account into your checking account to replace it.
KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS. You never know if they will help.
If you cannot find a service provider within your means and budget, even after you have done your due diligence in getting quotes from at least 3 service providers, then contact your CM and discuss the problem.

Hope this helps.
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