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Post by MaggieinNB on Thu 07 Mar 2013, 22:09

ok ,just noticed this note on the first page of the rate tables.

Note : The National Rate Table is not used to convert current recipients of VIP
housekeeping and grounds maintenance services from the Veterans
Independence Program to a grant. The initial grant amount is calculated
based on expenditures incurred in the past year and current needs. The
Grant Determination Tool (and the associated National Rate Table) is
used for new applications and to assess current needs when there has
been a change in circumstances for the recipient.

That might explain why ours is higher than those tables... we have been using Molly Maid for at least 6 years now.

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Post by teentitan on Tue 12 Mar 2013, 12:02

Just got off the phone with Blue Cross and found out the following information about the VIP grant system which is very important for EVERYONE to remember and do.

You still need to get receipts for services and keep them for one year in the event that Blue Cross does a random audit.  If you do not have the receipts to prove you used the grant money for housekeeping and grounds keeping then you will have to pay VAC back!!

Also money for non-routine housekeeping and window cleaning will be included in your grant totals.  But keep the receipt for a year to prove you have used it.
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Post by Guest on Tue 12 Mar 2013, 13:31

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Post by teentitan on Tue 12 Mar 2013, 16:19

OK spoke to VAC today about this audit of the VIP grant system and he says Blue Cross is wrong.

So, not being paranoid or anything, I asked for a news release from Minister Blaney stating that the VIP Grant will not be audited. At the very minimum I will get something on paper to post here and in VVi's database in case someone at Blue Cross wants to audit a vet.

The HRT (Health Related Travel) Claim can still be audited so make sure you get your stamped office card and hold onto it for a year.

Even better to keep your life easy...just get the claim stamped while you are there. I know I am because I don't need another file folder with appointment cards to manage. I am still using the old HRT claim and VAC told me that if I'm comfortable with that claim then go right ahead and use it.
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Post by teentitan on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 13:42

Just got the phone call from VAC and the VIP Grant will not be audited

The info will be sent to the NCCN and there will also be a message when you call the NCCN.

So again no audit on VIP Grant.
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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 14:04

great info teen thanks.

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Post by bigrex on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 14:05

Thanks teen. this is good news for many who may need to use that money for emergencies, or for those that are not able to manage their money properly, who now won't have to stress about paying it back if it does get used for other things. I honestly do not see this going well, as many services will charge an individual a certain rate, but may have offered VAC a corporate or group rate, if they had several clients referred to them, so even if the money does get used as intended, it may not go as far as it has in the past.

I also wonder how they will account for the rate increases in these services. Will the Veteran have to inform VAC of any rate hikes so the grant can be increased as required, or will the grant money be indexed? If it is indexed, what happens if the rate hikes exceed the indexation amount? It will put the Veteran either going without the service or paying out of pocket, and neither is acceptable. The old plan was so much simpler. The service provider sends the bill to VAC and they pay it. This move is purely about cutting jobs and has nothing to do with reducing red tape to benefit the Veteran community.
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Post by teentitan on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 18:18

Rex the formula used will be updated yearly.

In my research I found out that this formula has been used by VAC for over ten years now when the CM sends the info from an in-home assessment of the client.

Everyone must remember that if your "circumstances/health needs change that the client needs to contact their CM immediately for a re-assessment.
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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 18:20

Hey,Teen, Is there maximum dollar amounts?

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Post by teentitan on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 18:27

Maximums will be up to your in-home assessment by your VAC CM when she see's your needs.

If there is maximums they are not advertised or given. I have another call from VAC in the next week so I will ask.
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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 19:17

they are here.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/pdf/vip-nat-rat2013.pdf

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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 19:29

wow it seems my housekeeping rate is half the top rate and groundskeeping is less than half.

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Post by Trooper on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 19:40

Thanks for the info.
This might be a good thing, places less stress on us in having to worry about saving receipts, and perhaps even given work to family and or neighbours etc...
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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 19:46

Hey, Propat, Do they have a minimum wage in Newbruinswick ? Or do you pay in chickens and fruit, like thy used to do on Little House on the Prairie!

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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 20:11

lol @ nav yes buds its 10$ an hour and going up.it was 8$ an hour when i started vip at 10$ an hour and now im still at 10$ an hour and come next year that will be below minimum wage.we did use apples and chickens at one point but it turns out apple shine is more valuable so the growers turned into brewers of a sort.as for the chickens a federal ban came into effect after the local BN CO kept spending his troops.moastly on apple shine.

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