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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 21:06

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Post by teentitan on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 23:21

Propat those tables are only part of the "equation" used in calculating housekeeping.

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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 23:54

actually teen they are the maximum allowable rates for each geographical area.for example if you are allotted 4 hours housekeeping a month by your CM multiply that by the maximum allawable hourly rate by the table and you will get your max.the rest of the maxes are pritty straight forward.hey navrat asked for the maximum amounts so i found their new system they developed in 2012 and posted the link so he could see all the maximums and if he knows how much housekeeping hours he has he can figure that out to.i didnt see a question about the calculation nor was i answering one.was just trying to help with navrats question thats all.

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Post by bigrex on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 11:46

I think teen means that , since the chart only states the maximum hourly rate payable in each Province, they still has to be some sort of calculation required to say how many hours per week you are entitled to. Like how many floors in your home, number of rooms, bathrooms and such. If you live in a 4-5 bedroom house like Recon likely requires with his large family, you would likely get more hours than a single Veteran living in a condo.

I didn't realize I could claim for having chimney and furnace serviced. In my trailer, my furnace broke down once per winter for the last three years and it cost me over $200 each time for the technician to replace the $5 valve that kept failing, and the valve is only sold to licensed technicians, so I couldn't have even done it myself.
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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:02

bigrex im sure moast understand your CM has to do her calculation for hours requred for housekeeping,for you yard size and driveway size.if you dont know these ask your CM she knows.the question that was asked was maximums so it was answered.THESE ARE THE MAXIMUMS FOR 2013.boys not sure whats up here but this is the best way i could answer this question for navrat without flying to his house for an inspection of the property in question.NAVRAT the leigion doesnt count.sory i couldnt think of a better way to answer.

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Post by teentitan on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:12

Another factor/chart is do you use a cleaning company? Those figures are on a different chart and are another factor for the calculation.

The charts you posted propat for if you hire an individual not a company.

To prove the VIP grant they took 100 examples from across Canada and gave them to 4 people to calculate. All 400 calculations were within 3-4% of each other.

So it is a tested formula that VAC has been using for over a decade now.
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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:18

teen these are the maximum ammounts.

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Post by teentitan on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:44

propat I'm not saying your tables are wrong I'm saying that the tables you have are maximum amounts for an "individual".

There are many vets that use companies and it was explained to me by a member of the VAC department in PEI responsible for the formula that there are other charts for "companies".

So I'm just saying there is a difference of maximums...individual or company.
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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 13:24

Thanks, Propat, somehow I have a feeling we all will be getting less with this new grant program.

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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 16:12

ok here it goes their is only one table showing the max that was it.i made a pile of calls to confirm this and this is what ive been told by the one dva person that would even talk about it and i talked to a few.im getting half the house cleaning max becouse im not with a bonded service provider.she also said even at that i was a bit low so i should get reavaluated as moast in my are are getting 12-12.50 an hour that are not with a bonded cleaner.my buddy keith does get the max as he is having his bonded cleaner paid directly by DVA.in his words ''they pay frigin neer 20 an hour and i pay the extra'' his cleaner charges 25 an hour.but hey dont let the FACTS get in the way of a good argument.by the way i dont want you to belive me thats why i posted the link so you could either belive DVA ore not.if you dont belive them thats just fine by me.pleas go to the DVA site and search 2013 rates.you will find a list click on vip rates.their is only one list the link i provided.but hey ill belive their is another when someone shows me another 2013 vip rate tabe published by DVA.SHOW ME THE FACTS.

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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 16:16

navrat no problem buds.maybe your right but i hope not.

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Post by 6608 on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 17:10

propat...............Teen posted your link/tables on VVI bulletin board (general info) like a month ago i think he knows what he's saying.................by the way i have a relative (not bonded) doing mine for 17 an hour..............

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Post by Guest on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 17:36

6608 im sure you do.and im sad i missed that and am sure that he must have posted the other one he is talking about ore did he.dva doesnt post another one nor will they admit there is another one out their just this one i put the link to directly from the dva website.so all i did was post this without a pesonal coments to help a vet out and even after this is something i will always do.if you ore anyone else can do the same and show him this other table pleas do so.again that link is a FACT any other FACT you have to add would be greatly apriciated as i spent hours looking for that other table and couldnt find it.

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Post by teentitan on Sat 23 Mar 2013, 12:23

propat I'm not saying your tables are wrong. As a matter of fact I had them sent to me as well.

But like I said the department head in charge of VIP told me that these are the charts for individuals that are hired.

I asked for the charts for the companies that get hired but he said those are not released. I asked why and he said it has nothing to do with the veteran it is to keep the companies honest in their fees.

If companies learn these tables they can start to inflate their prices which will only lead to veterans not being able to afford paying them.

So I can't produce the tables as VAC will not release them but I have dealt with this department before on other matters and they never sent me down a rabbit hole.
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Post by Guest on Sat 23 Mar 2013, 13:15

ok teen no problem buds.ya see this table is a new one developed in 2012 for the 2013 year onward.with info from regisered service providers dva staff who administered the old plan and labor market info from human resorses amongst other things.it is now called the grant determination tool.so either the info you recived is dated mind you only slightly.ore they developed two GDTs and a whole lot of disabled vets are getting screwed.they guy i mentioned would be one as he pays some out of pocket to his registered service provider becouse he was told he is getting the max per hour.what he is getting only matches the rate given in the max ammount in the inividual table leaving him short by about 5$ an hour.

did you here about the second table post jan 1st this year and can you confirm it may be a big help to a lot of disabled vets.

thanks a lot

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