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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by Vet1234 on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 17:36

Well I applied for PIA/S on August 4th. On October 27th, I was approved for PIA, but denied PIA/S because I wasn't deemed TPI. I was deemed TPI on October 8th and just submitted my appeal for PIA/S online today. So, it is possible to get PIA without being TPI. However it's not possible to get PIA/S without being TPI.
In fact, the denial letter had called PIAS, "Permanent Impairment Allowance Supplement for Total and Permanent Incapacity."
When my supplement is approved(because I was deemed TPI), the supplement is payable to the date I was deemed TPI, or applied for PIAS, whichever is latest. In my case, I should get my PIAS on the date I was TPI. As well, policy says that my PIA is payable on the date I applied.
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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by Trooper on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 17:46

Vet1234,

Your on the ball!
Only way to go when dealing with VAC, good for you!
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Post by Guest on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 18:00

ya its been a while like I said not sure witch one or ones I had an issue with . but now that I recall it was the PIA and the PIA/S I had issues with and your correct it wasn't the TPI that tripped me up for application date it was the rehab approval that did that as I was applying for that at the same time as well .

yess I remember now they didn't take my application date they used the date of my acceptance for the rehab ( the day of or day after still not sure ) for PIA and the date of my TPI acceptance for the SUPP .

when speaking with them they said it was easier to hold the applications until these other things had been resolved and dating them from there than denying me because I didn't have these things just to have me re-apply shortly their after .

its starting to come back to me now lol.

again not sure if you were in the same boat .

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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by Vet1234 on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 18:08

I do my research now. I also pull as much as I can from the good people on the forum here. I used to take what VAC said at face value, I figured they knew.... Turns out many of them don't. My advice to vets, ask for advice on the forum and read the policy. I've been given false information from VAC numerous times.
Was told that the dependent portion of CPPD was clawed back from ELB. It isn't.
Was told that I wasn't eligible for PIA. I was.
Was told I wouldn't be deemed TPI. I was.

Apply, Apply, Apply.
Know the policy, VAC makes mistakes.
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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by Guest on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 18:11

EXACTLY !!!!!! APPLY APPLY APPLY !!!!

OUTSTANDING!!!!

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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by nemo on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 20:17

Bigrex. See, I can walk. But my pace is a helluva lot slower than the average person. My spouse who needed a new knee was even faster than me. Even my 80 plus year old mother is faster. And by the time I go into say Wallymart to do a little bit of shopping, I can still walk but it is even slower and then when I get to the car, I have to lift my leg in. Just don't know if that would really hit the spot to qualify or not. Now I can get up off a chair but if I have to squat for something and get on the ground I have an extremely hard time to get up again. And I also have to sit to put my pants on...definitely not going to happen standing up. Sometimes I say....ok...put your damn gotch or pants on standing up without hanging onto something or sitting down..but nope....even my 80 plus mother does not need to sit to put her pants on. But again, perhaps my condition would be deemed too mild. What do you think Bigrex?

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Post by Dannypaj on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 05:03

propat wrote:EXACTLY !!!!!! APPLY APPLY APPLY !!!!

OUTSTANDING!!!!

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keeping in mind, that if it is not costing you a cent to make a cent with this uncommon sense approach of caring for us vets, don't stop until you have peace of mind and absolute wellness. You deserve no less.

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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by bigrex on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 07:41

You would definitely qualify for the walking (ambulate), so even though you can stand up from a chair (transfer), can you do it without assistance, like pushing off with your arms? If you cannot stand from a squat, I think that you could not stand up from a chair easily either. There are oither QoL things that can qualify you for lower PIA. But like I said, these criteria are due to change in April, so you can choose to apply now, with the info that is available, OR you can choose to wait to see if the new criteria is more amiable to your personal situation. But IMO, it's a "Devil you know" situation.
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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by Vet1234 on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 07:45

just received a "payroll deposit" for $1200 in my rbc account...
The only people who put money in my account are VAC.
anyone know what payment would be a payroll deposit on the 15th?
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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by nemo on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 09:36

Thanks for info everyone. So I assume then to apply for PIA that you need to go see a
VAC doctor and or other medical specialists?

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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by nemo on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 09:48

So when I go to the form to fill out for PIA...it asks 'Have you had an application for rehabilitation services approved for this disability awarded/pensioned condition?* YES or NO. Of course, I would put NO as I have never put in for rehab. SO...what would they do if I put NO? Reject? Or do I put in for rehab first?

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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by johnny211 on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 09:54

Vet1234 - do you get VIP? But if it is that, mine says Medivie blue cross. If not call Vac and ask. VVV...
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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by Guest on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 13:26

nemo are you on ELB ?

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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by nemo on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 14:11

No propat...sisip...cpp(d), military pension and VAC pension under old charter

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Re: PIA, TPI and SISIP

Post by Trooper on Tue 15 Nov 2016, 14:44

nemo,

It's my understanding that in order for you to apply for PIA, you need to apply for rehab first.

Once approved for the rehab program, you then can apply for the PIA.

Rehab does not necessarily mean going back to school, there are other forms of rehab.

I'm no expert on this, so others can weight in on what they experienced.

Also, you can look at firebird's post on page 2, where he states, " You can go on the rehab program and not go to school or back to work , I did , and I was deemed TPI and got PIA as a result of it. You just have to do what VAC says will qualify you for these benefits and have a neutral case manager."

Permanent Impairment Allowance
The Permanent Impairment Allowance (PIA) is a taxable, monthly benefit—payable for life. The allowance is provided when your career options have been limited because of a service-related illness or injury.

Do I qualify?
You may qualify if you have:

a severe and permanent impairment for which you have received a disability benefit, and
a VAC-approved application for rehabilitation services.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/transition/rehabilitation/permanent-impairment-allowance
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