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Post by Guest on Thu 29 Jan 2015, 18:14

Tomorrow Friday Jan 30th is  when the government is expected to respond to recommendations that the House of Commons Veterans Affairs committee issued last June, dealing with improvements to the controversial New Veterans Charter, including increasing the disability award provided to veterans and improving how injured soldiers are handled by the bureaucracy.

We will see what happens here.

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Post by bigrex on Thu 29 Jan 2015, 19:23

I'm betting that the likely response will be, that they need more time to study the recommendations, due to the fact that the MVA is new, and has not had enough time to study all the reports. That should buy them enough time to make any announcements just before the election is called. But even if they do announce proposed improvements, they will likely say that they hinge on going through the democratic process (ie debated and voted upon in the HoC several times, studied at committee, studied by the senate, and ultimately requiring royal assent). But with the election pending, it will only die on the order paper anyways, and therefor completely worthless.
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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 06:00

lmao wholy frack rex ya ya responded to that like like ya seen that done a thousand times before .

common rex say it aint so .

tell me they haven't done that before.

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Post by bigrex on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 09:36

lol. I just tried to think like a politician. How can you say something to make yourself look good, without actually having to do something, or intend on following through. And that is what I came up with. It might be different if the Tories had already made changes to the NVC that didn't take several months to be passed, or the rules allowed bills to survive such things as an election or prorogation. But as it stands, any bill, that will be introduced now, will have very little chance of being passed before the election is called. After all, we have all seen how the Tories can delay something at committee, if Harper tells them that they do not agree with it.
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Post by cosmo12 on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 10:30

Hi guys, dont expect too much from this update all we will see is what they have done so far means action that does not cost a penney. All we are waiting for is costing money, ELB increase, better disability award and better aligned criterias for the PIA and supplement. Hopefuly on next budget

What do you think?

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Post by cosmo12 on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 10:35

Expect the tabling of the document around lunch time

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Post by bigrex on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 15:36

So, has anyone seen or heard anything yet?
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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 17:43

Well I have searched most news agencies, and the anti - terror bill is dominating the news today.

Unless of course the response has not yet been uploaded.

I also looked back at different news reports with respect to the Jan 30th response date, and could only find the word ' EXPECTED " to respond by that date.
Nothing that I could find that states they have to respond by that date - so really not sure what to think at this point.

It could very well be that nothing was done - or completed on this today.

I will continue to search, just in case, they were late on the upload.

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Post by cosmo12 on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 18:26

Not seen a thing also

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 18:42


New veterans minister misses deadline on recommendations

New Veterans Affairs Minister Erin O’Toole failed his first test in convincing the country’s former soldiers that things would be different under his watch, says a veterans’ advocate and an opposition MP.

O’Toole was supposed to provide an update Friday on how the government was responding to recommendations put forth by the Commons Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs in June. Those recommendations, supported by the Conservative, Liberal and NDP MPs on the committee, focused on how to improve the situation for Canada’s retired military personnel by making changes to the controversial New Veterans Charter.

O’Toole didn’t provide a progress report and his office is silent on why.

There were 13 recommendations on how to make improvements to the charter. Those ranged from increasing the disability award provided to veterans to improving how injured soldiers are handled by the bureaucracy. The 14th recommendation was to produce a response by Jan. 30, 2015, on the progress that had been made.

“He failed already,” said Mike Blais, an injured veteran and president of Canadian Veterans Advocacy. “It’s not a very good start.”

The Royal Canadian Legion did not respond to a request for comment.

But Liberal veterans affairs critic Frank Valeriote said O’Toole not only failed but his actions showed contempt for veterans. “All he had to do was update us on what the government was doing with the recommendations and he couldn’t even do that,” said Valeriote. “It’s business as usual for this government.”

The New Veterans Charter has prompted anger among younger veterans who complain it provides fewer benefits than those offered to military personnel who fought in previous wars.

Valeriote said O’Toole is acting no differently than former minister Julian Fantino, who was disliked by some in the veterans’ community because of how he dealt with former soldiers.

O’Toole declined an interview with the Citizen.

The recommendations from the Commons committee are not binding on the government, which had asked the committee to examine the charter.

The government’s request came after a group of injured Afghan veterans filed a class-action lawsuit arguing that the New Veterans Charter violated their Charter rights since it removed lifetime disability payments for injured military personnel. The veterans charter replaced that with a lump sum payment.

It was revealed earlier this week the Conservative government has spent almost $700,000 in legal bills fighting the disabled Afghan veterans in court.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/new-veterans-minister-misses-deadline-on-recommendations

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 18:49

Is he not our MVA ?

Should he at least tell us why he did not respond today ?

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Post by Rifleman on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 19:16

Just another useless tool in the tool box I may eat my words but until they start telling us what the hell is going this is my opinion right or wrong

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 20:55

My post on page 1 - posted at 19:42 has been slightly updated to include this ;


Few details on O'Toole's response to veterans charter recommendations

O’Toole didn’t provide a progress report. In a response Friday evening, his spokeswoman Kayleigh Kanoza said that “it was submitted” to the clerk of the Commons committee on Friday. She provided no other details.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/new-veterans-minister-misses-deadline-on-recommendations

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Post by cosmo12 on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 21:53

look on Minister OToole facebook page he just publshed a chart as a progress report

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Post by bigrex on Fri 30 Jan 2015, 22:33

here is a link to the chart, but basically it says absolutely nothing. Everything that we have been waiting on, falls under the catagory of ongoing analysis.

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