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Post by 6608 on Thu 12 Mar 2015, 22:18

This sounds like good news.............it will be interesting to see what the government has to say

http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/national/296147831.html



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Post by teentitan on Thu 12 Mar 2015, 22:26

HOLY CRAP!!!!!
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Post by Guest on Thu 12 Mar 2015, 22:29

Things are a changing!

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Post by Guest on Thu 12 Mar 2015, 22:54

WOW never seen this coming .

NOT being overly optimistic I guess we will have to wait and see .

but I will have hope .

and ..... I really hope these guys make me vote for them this year.

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Post by Trooper on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 07:59

"When the new Minister came in, we'd had approaches to talk"

Our new Minister, Mr. OToole is not only listening and understanding our concerns, he is actually acting on our concerns.

This is good news all around.
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Post by Guest on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 08:33

Excellent news

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Post by pinger on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 09:14

And a Happy Friday the 13th it is ! pinger.
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Post by bigrex on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 10:45

The Tories had to have had these in the works for a while, but knew that Fantino was not the man to announce these changes. He had burned too many bridges. Just seems like too many, very drastic changes to the way VAC have conducted themselves since 2006, in such a short amount of time, for it all just be because of a new MVA. Even if these changes were O'toole's idea, it would take time to get proper approval from Harper, AND the treasury board, before being able to announce such broad changes. I am glad, and I say keep them coming, since they still have recommendations about concerning PIA and ELB to act upon.
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Post by teentitan on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 11:10

I agree with ya Rex...all of the announcements and future ones as I was told there is more coming were in the works since VAC received the ACVA report.

The change from Fantino to O'Toole was done not for the optics but for the new "veteran-centric" approach when dealing with vets, paperwork, and old bureuacratic thinking. I couldn't see Fantino doing this.

His reputation was soiled with the vets so putting O'Toole in was not just a reset for the Conservatives but a reset for everybody...vets, Liberals, NDP, Conservatives, and Public Service.
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Post by Trooper on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 16:19

I agree this has been in the works for awhile, but that said, I personally think that understanding how to proceed with implementation of how to fix things is another thing.

In my opinion Mr. O'Toole is the man who knows how to get things done, he only has been Minister for a little over two Months, and so far he has showed to be committed to actually listen, acting and responding in a hasty manner.

As with past Ministers - The understanding and the acting on implementation was lacking which really got us nowhere, one minor thing was fixed and that's where it ended, this type of governing did not sit well with Veterans.

So far in the very short time that Mr. O'Toole has taken over, he is showing where his heart is, and that is looking after all Veterans.

If this continues to be the case going forward, I think he will shine a different light towards how serious this government is in looking after it's Veterans, and gain back the respect and trust of Veterans, which can only be a good thing.
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Post by teentitan on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 16:25

Trooper I get the government wanting to gain the respect back from the vets but sometimes I get the feeling he wants the vets to start "trusting" VAC.

This is why I'm interested in this new initiative Veteran-centric Communications Task Force and the potential it has.
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Post by bigrex on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 16:33

The key for me to see if he is actually listening, and not just playing political game, will be if he gets all these changes to the senate before the election is called. That will tell me that he wants to fix these things for Veterans regardless of how the election turns out. My only concern then would be the Torie run senate delaying these benefits, if the Tories do lose the election. Just too many scandals, misdeeds and double speak coming out of the blue corner, for me to just accept things at face value.
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Post by Trooper on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 16:36

Trusting VAC is going to be a hard for I think the vast majority of Veterans, if that ever happens it will take awhile, but that is only my opinion, I guess if anyone can do it -  Mr. O'Toole can - that is of course if Mr. O'Toole continues to prove good on his centric - approach.
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Post by pinger on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 16:52

I must say, with all due respect to Erin O'Toole esp. the fact he served in the CF, he is still... a 2 month johnny come lately as the MVA. He's good, but 2 months is not mileage, 2 -3 years are. It will take a while alright trooper. Where's my crystal ball dag nabbit it.  pinger.
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Post by bigrex on Fri 13 Mar 2015, 17:35

Also, he will only be in the role for a few more months, until the election is called, and then he will be on the campaign trail. And there is no guarantee that he will remain as the MVA even if the Tories remain in power. After all, everyone knows that he was brought in to quell discontent over the treatment of Vets and the ABC movement, leading up to the election. Something Fantino would not be able to do. So if the Tories do retain control, Harper may reward him by shuffling him into a different, higher profile position. After all, with losing several long time cabinet ministers and other backbenchers, he may find himself scrambling to find trustworthy MP's to fill his cabinet.
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