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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by bigrex on Sat 30 May 2015, 19:16

Honestly, the minimum hospital stays, as a prerequisite, you could have people who actually lie about getting better, just to get the money. I mean, if you get injured, and you are already in the hospital for an extended period, but know that if you stay in the hospital for x number of days, you get $70000 tax free, wouldn't you try to stay in the hospital until you met the required number of days. Like having to stay in intensive care for 10 days. Just the very fact that you are placed into an ICU, means that something serious has happened. So they need to completely ditch the CIB, and simply increase the Lump Sum, for EVERYONE, not just the select few. After all, wasn't the intent of the CIB was to provide immediate financial support after an injury while waiting for a disability award to be decided upon, but if having to wait for 3 or 4 months, just to see if you meet the time required to qualify for the CIB, defeats that purpose. It is actually conceivable that a disability award could be approved before the CIB is. If they are worried about the initial requirement for cash, after an injury, maybe they should start paying an interim payment of 5%-10%, when you submit your first application for a disability award, providing that you attach an accident report, or incident report of a traumatic event, if applying for PTSD.
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Slaket on Sun 31 May 2015, 11:13

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I agree 100% with Bigrex on the scrapping of the whole CIB. I am still not clear how it even came about and who brought it forward. If the awards system in VAC was some how streamlined then the individual who would be applying for CIB should be applying for a DIsability award and in theory receive it in the same timeframe as the proposed CIB. Where the system is at fault is the acknowledgment of the injury award when compared to other countries military's and our own provincial workmens compensation systems. Until we are at par with those then the whole VAC award system is prejudicial to each and every Vet with a valid injury.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by redfisher on Sun 31 May 2015, 12:44

Having a physical injury that has a short term hospital stay or requires someone assisting in daily activities for a short period of time qualifies a Vet for the CIB. Having said that how about loosing your mind in Afghanistan, being under constant medical watch and sent home to be under the constant care of a doctor, psychologists and psychiatrists weekly and sometimes bi-weekly for years?
Does going to the hospital to get help as you feel suicidal during this time of constant care qualify a Vet for CIB?

During this time your spouse has to do all the chores, banking, coordinating because you can't think strait or even do simple math such as adding two numbers together. How about not being able to read and make sense of a book or article let alone your wife telling you that you have an appointment which you forgot about. How about not remembering a conversation you just had 5 minutes ago?

Or, needing somebody close to you just so you can be out in public?

Since there was no short term hospital stay why would this person be denied CIB?
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by bigrex on Sun 31 May 2015, 16:28

In spite of all the rhetoric, this demonstrates just how narrow minded the Tories are, with who they feel deserves their support. You know one person that will likely get the CIB though? Major Campbell of the Equitas lawsuit. So as the lead representative, or at least the most visible one, the government lawyers can now say that he was just approved to receive the additional $70000, so what more can he want? Making him and the others seem greedy, in the eyes of the court and the public.
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Skud on Mon 01 Jun 2015, 14:49

My opinion: Scrap the CIB, and every NVC lump sum recipient receives an additional 35%.

CONSERVATIVES won't help our veterans yet in the past few years the government gave to the following countries....millions. These countries are not so well off so it is unlikely we will ever see the money back, besides what have most done for us? Did the government even ask the Cdn people!
Hamas - 351 M,
Pakistan - 2 B,
Libya - 1.45 B,
Egypt - 397 M,
Mexico - 622 M,
Russia - 380 M,
Haiti - 1.4 B,
Jordan - 463 M,
Kenya - 816 M,
Sudan - 870 M,
Nigeria - 456 M,
Uganda - 451 M,
Congo - 359 M,
Ethiopia - 981 M,
South Africa 566 M,
Senegal - 698 M,
Mozambique - 404 M,
Zambia - 331 M,
Kazakhstan - 304 M,
Iraq - 1.08 B,
Tanzania - 554 M,

TOTAL $14.933 BILLION
Over 5 Billion a year on direct cash support of foreign aid, and 20 Billion on Immigration & Refugee programs
AUSTRALIA, UK, THE USA& CANADA - countries where we have homeless
persons, children going to bed hungry, elderly going without needed
medication and mentally ill without treatment, veterans living in poverty, etc.
Imagine if our "GOVERNMENT" gave 'US' the same support they give to other countries no questions asked! Did the other countries have to apply for this money or do anything for it....lol, were they denied and then had to go and appeal....lmao.......the government is willing to help other before they help their own....the ironic part is; we the veterans who have done so much for this country and we get treated like the enemy.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Guest on Mon 01 Jun 2015, 16:46

Skud, So true, if the ConNewWorldOrderservatives, really wanted to fix all the veterans problems they could in one second but the truth is they don't , it's so clear , all these fake announcements amount to nothing but something the Cons want written in all the newspapers that they are helping. Thirsty , have an orange crush you might like it!

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Guest on Mon 01 Jun 2015, 20:10

CIB...is a crock people. Minimum stay in hospital months and months? The lump sum was brought in to save the government money....that's the only reason for lump sum awards. CIB ya ok...so hat about Veterans with mental illnesses that suffer daily not in hospitals....yet alone the ones that have lived a tormented life not for 84 fu**ing days....YEARS. so if hey spent months in a cookoo ward they would qualify perhaps? I know too many guys and gals messed up and as far as I am concerned vac and the CIB can b shoved right up the politicians a**es. I believe the cib would benefit some....but the prerequisites to qualify are too stringent. Bunch of political spaghetti.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by BinRat on Mon 01 Jun 2015, 23:46

Maybe it should be if you are/were medically released from the military you are entitled to it.

Though again the only one's to get it would be from there set date, it won't go back past 06 when the nvc was brought in.

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Guest on Mon 01 Jun 2015, 23:55

This is true

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by redfisher on Tue 02 Jun 2015, 00:53

Would a guy who had a previous injury in service, that was treated and was no longer a medical concern for duty, be eligible for CIB if they injured the same part of their body in theatre?

Given that they passed the extensive medical exam and then given the green light to go on tour, would this' green light' mean that the recent injury is new and is eligible for CIB, OR would VAC disallow the claim because there was a previous injury it that area of the body?
Hmmm seems like a lot of Vets would not be able to claim CIB if there is anything in their medical files that suggests that there was a previous injury.
Sounds like a loop hole to get out of paying CIB.


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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Guest on Tue 02 Jun 2015, 08:48

If they weren't careful about the guidelines for approving boat loads would apply. Initial vets will read the eligibility guidelines and see one would have to be this or have had that and say screw it what's the point. I think few will get it....but very few will apply as well. Only because they will read the eligibility guidelines and think..."nah I won't be approved, screw it". Let's face it a dollar saved is a dollar the goc can pat themselves on the back for. For example the surplus that was given back...over a billion dollars. People....its all smoke and mirrors...if this government gets voted back in....we would be true idiots. I hope that's not the case

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by 6608 on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 12:34

More info posted on VAC site on CIB see below
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/after-injury/critical-injury-benefit

Critical Injury Benefit

The Critical Injury Benefit is a tax-free lump sum award.
Eligibility details
Canadian Armed Forces members or military Veterans may be eligible if they experienced a severe and traumatic injury or acute disease which:
*was service-related;
*was the result of a sudden and single incident occurring on or after April 1, 2006; and
*immediately caused a severe impairment and interference in quality of life.
Severe impairment and interference in quality of life
For the purposes of the Critical Injury Benefit, at least one of the following must apply to you:
Amputation
*An amputation at or above the wrist or ankle
Conditions of less than 12 weeks
*Admitted to intensive care for at least five days.
*Hospitalized and required multiple surgeries or a ventilator or had other complicated treatment or medical interventions.
Conditions that lasted 12 weeks or more
*Hospitalized
*Blind in both eyes
*Paralysis of one or more limbs
*Loss of control of kidneys, bladder or bowel
Conditions that lasted 16 weeks or more
*Required assistance with three or more of the following activities: eating, bathing, walking, toileting or transferring (e.g. from bed
to chair)


This new benefit has received Royal Assent and Veterans Affairs Canada will be accepting applications. Please call us at 1-866-522-2122.




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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Guest on Mon 06 Jul 2015, 08:21

Won't be many people approved for this benefit. Many applications but few approved. This benefit was created for afghan vets injured. Anyone else....notta

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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by bigrex on Tue 11 Aug 2015, 19:08

I think that one possible way to improve the CIB, is to to remove the single event criteria, and change it so that anyone suffering any of these consequences due to your disability, then you should be entitle to the CIB. If you have PTSD, and are hospitalized because of it, you get the CIB, regardless of how long it has been since you were diagnosed. The same as physical disabilities. If you have had to undergo major surgery for your recognized medical condition, even several years later, then you should be entitled to the CIB as well.
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Has anyone recieved the Critical Injury Benefit?

Post by redfisher on Tue 20 Oct 2015, 16:25

Has anyone recieved the Critical Injury Benefit?

If you have been denied what were the reasons?

It seems to me that there are alot of exclusions VAC has made in order to restrict who may qualify and get the Critical Injury Benefit. Almost to the point that virtually nobody will qualify.

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