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Post by 6608 on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 22:54

Rex,Not just approx 100 retroactively that qualify, 200k annual cost going forward means they estimate only 3 people will get this a year going forward.

Interview on power and politics.............listen closely folks

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Post by bigrex on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 22:14

The way I see it is , a Veteran would have to prove that they witnessed, or was involved in a singular incident after 2006, and the resulting mental trauma had an immediate affect on them, required hospitalization and therapy, before they could get the CIB. But you and I both know that the vast majority, 99% of soldiers, are going to bury their emotions and deny that anything is wrong, until they just cannot anymore.

Like I said earlier, this should have been a DND benefit, similar to the accidental dismemberment, or the spousal income replacement that is offered after a CF member is seriously injured. Becasue after they pay out the retro benefit, to the approx 100 Veterans, this will be strictly for serving members, and will only be payable while they are still serving
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Post by Tin Soldier on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 21:56

I see what you are saying now bigrex. Basically the fact that the injury has to have occurred post March 2006 means that this pertains only to New Charter Veterans.

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Post by Recon031 on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 21:33

Hey BigRex ........or ........TeenTitan ,

       Is it just me , Or , Did they intentionally  " LEAVE OUT "  troops with Severe PTSD  for this CIB /  Critically Injured Benefit ...... ???

On  CTV National News ,  Minister O'Toole ......did say ...... Crirical Injury ... or ......Illness ... Pain... Stress ....& Hardship  !

Anyone's thoughts on this ???


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Post by bigrex on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 21:28

Tin Soldier, it doesn't spell it out like that, but since they say that the incident has to have happened after March 31st 2006, in order to qualify, any PA pensions would have had to have been from previous accidents. So even though it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the lump sum award and bringing it to comparable levels as civie street, only serious incidents, that could have resulted in a lump sum award, are allowed to be compensated for.

I just hope that this announcement is not tied to anything dealing with the Equitas lawsuit settlement talks.
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Post by Recon031 on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 21:27

Thank - you Ron , Teentitan ......

Just to put myself out there as an Example , But ! , as you said , we'll have to Wait for the Legislation to be Written - up !


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Post by Tin Soldier on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 20:52

Is this for the New Veteran Charter soldiers only?

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Post by Teentitan on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 20:06

The guidelines have not been worked out yet. They will be when the bill is introduced on the floor of the HoC.

So I don't want to speculate on who, what, how, why at all.
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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Recon031 on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 19:55

Hey Ron ...... Teentitan ,

    Wow , any way to get a simple , run of the mill list of Who ?   Might be Entitled  ?

Or , am I asking too much ?

Are we talking about anyone who has had a    Lump - Sum    as you & I have discussed since 2006
ie ......

1........ IBS ( irritable bowel syndrome ) is Severe & Prolonged for Life !

claimed 2007 ... as Consequential to Severe PTSD prior to 2006

..........Would I be Entitled to CIB ? .............. Can you find out through Certain Contacts ?


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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Guest on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 19:48

Ok thanks, I thought I was loosing it there for awhile.

It's good that they are making certain that those entitled, get their entitlement.

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Post by 6608 on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 19:45

yes that's right trooper...............lol your not hearing things, they are trying to be proactive



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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Guest on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 19:44

During Mr.OToole's announcement I thought I heard him say that the CM's have been directed to find those who would be affected by this and contact them.

Is it just me that heard that ?

Or am I hearing things again ?

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Post by Teentitan on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 19:17

OK watching the O'Toole interview on CBC and the CIB is also for reservists.

I think this is a valid point to remember....this benefit is also for the "moderately" injured veteran. You know someone gets a small lump sum for a knife/bayonet wound say around $20K the CIB is an added tax free benefit from the Government and people of Canada for having to live with the big scar for the rest of your life.

Anyway this plays out some people will hate it some won't. Personally I think this is a nice bump for NVC guys. Or should I say a nice 'thank you for your service' bump?
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Post by 6608 on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 19:05

Rex, the way he described it or example he gave was someone medically released since 2006 with a serious injury and applied through the NVC for rehab and benefits but because his condition was not stable received minimal if no financial benefits, and through rehab his condition got better  (physio/ surgery ect) so at end of rehab he received no or min financial benefits from said injury.

this is from memory of interview so as close as i can remember what he said anyway...........that seems like the group they want to catch.


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Re: Critical Injury Benefit (CIB)

Post by Recon031 on Mon 30 Mar 2015, 18:44

.......On CTV National News 16:45 hrs., Minister O'Toole said the Benefit is for :::

............. CRITICAL INJURY BENEFIT !

1....... Critical Injury , or Illness
2....... Pain , Stress , & Hardship
3....... Immediate & Severe
4....... for Traumatically injured Veterans & Serving personnel
5....... Even if... the injury is " NOT PERMINENT "
6....... Tax Free


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