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Re: PIA

Post by pinger on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 18:01

You know what Sapper Zodiak?

If I was was a one armed paper hanger that's any good, I might go to Jersey or Vegas and be a good armed bandit at the slots. Talking, left or right physical arm. But I sway from the topic at hand, PIA. pinger.
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Post by 1993firebird on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 17:52

I forgot that the rehabilitation program through SISIP is only available , I believe , within the first two years of being medically released which has passed by several years ago for me. The VAC rehabilitation program is different as it can be done anytime , as far as I know , after medical release.

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Re: PIA

Post by pinger on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 17:36

Bearing in mind, Pia eligibility prerequisites (ADL's) . I believe the eligibility just got loosened.
Reflecting a longer time for some of us to do said ADL's. To each their own. But I don't want some snoopy betty crocker around me. (proper respect and apology's to the gal vets). It's an independence issue though.... for now.  pinger.
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Re: PIA

Post by Sapper Zodiak on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 17:20

Right back atcha from a one armed paper hanger!!
The VAC website criteria for TPI says amputations etc...I guess every case is decided on its own merits. I never applied before because I thought I wasn't banged up enough. 72% VAC(adjudicated 16 yrs ago) and numerous non military related injuries...perhaps I qualify as well. Looking into it. I have no CM or anything now though. Thanks for the heads up regarding offset of sisip income. Good to know PIA is not considered income for sisip.
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Re: PIA

Post by pinger on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 17:04

Sapper Zodiak.

How in blazes do you figure you need to be an amputee to be musing tpi?
It ain't so. I ain't got no lost limbs, just fracked ones that don't work.

Where's the heck is that one-legged ass kicking contest?
Giving a kick at the can. pinger.
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Re: PIA

Post by Guest on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 16:30

ok got ya buds . ya PIA and sup are not deducted from SISIP or ELB so there is no down side.

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Post by Sapper Zodiak on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 15:39

Thanks Propat...the question is this...I already get sisip LTD as income for my service. If I get PIA as a taxable income benefit from VAC, is there an offset dollar for dollar from sisip. Or do I stand to gain from this PIA? It seems as both are incomes and taxable, so why would I go from one to another? There must be some benefit to it or why have them both?
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Post by Guest on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 15:00

sap not sure about the question. you don't lose CPPD if you get it nor is it deducted from anything elce. if you get it its a plus.

hope that helped????

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Post by Sapper Zodiak on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 14:53

OK folks...enlighten me please. Sisip since 1989...cpp-d since 1997...is it more beneficial to go with what I have, or get PIA as income? It seems to be the same thing from a different source. What are the benefits to me, as I have no amputations or anything that would qualify me to get the TPI...HHMMM...
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Post by Guest on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 14:41

from my own experience my CM said you have to have been ACCEPTED for the rehab program for ELB . you need to have been ACCEPTED for the rehab program to get PIA. you need to have been granted PIA to get the supplement .

that's the proses I went through to get the PIA and supp.

you have at one point been accepted for the rehab program sice you are on ELB so no need to go through that as that is the longest part .

you are on ELB ( even if you get zeroed out because of SISIP that doesn't take you off ELB ) and you have been accepted for the rehab so no need to go through step 2 in the presses.

now you only need to do the easiest part step 3.

the application is one page .

when I applied I did it to get the PIA and sup but I was not on the rehab ore ELB the paperwork I got was thick as a book loads of crap to fill out doctors reports to get filled out and so on . at the bottom of the pile was the paperwork I wanted the PIA and sup ONE LITTLE PAGE .

blew my mind!!!!

collecting SISIP does not take you off the rehab program nor does it erase the fact that you had been accepted for the rehab program .

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Re: PIA

Post by bigrex on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 14:39

Firebird, being approved for SISIP does not make you ineligible for the rehab program, because it covers a lot more than just retraining. The only thing that will happen if your SISIP appeal is approved, will be that any money received for ELB will have to be repaid. You should still be eligible for PIA and PIAS (if you qualify).
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Post by ceedee on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 14:24

Not 2 months ago my case manager called and she said I should apply for the Pia. I guess it's a waiting game now. I Though is was great she mentioned it to me. Considering she call to ask if I still need a case manager

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Re: PIA

Post by pinger on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 14:18

So so much alphabet soup ,no wonder it's so bloody draining.
How can one not feel like a half-fracked fox in a forest fire dealing with VAC somedays?
 
Never heard of someone getting a pia supplement without getting the pia in the first place either.
Was I asleep at the wheel when they changed the rules? I don't think so.

2 cents firebird. Take your time if you can. Do not ever feel pressured. (esp. by a cm) It just might bite you in the butt later. I'm talking 20/20 prudence. pinger.
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Post by 1993firebird on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 12:56

The application is being sent to me but from what I read you have to be on the rehabilitation program with Veterans Affairs to get PIA and if my appeal with SISIP is granted I will no longer be on the rehabilitation program with VAC. The information is not detailed enough and the only thing that matters is applying. I am currently on ELB and was contacted by my case manager about applying for PIA as well.

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Re: PIA

Post by Guest on Sun 12 Apr 2015, 12:02

buds you don't need to be collecting ELB to get PIA and sup you just need to have been approved for it . I was approved for ELB but never got a dime as I was on SISIP then I was approved for PIA as this is a requirement to get the supp and the criteria is generally easier to meet than the supp . then I was approved for the supp whose criteria is generally harder to meet.

all I can say is get the applications in and see what happens .

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