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Post by Vet1234 on Fri 12 Aug 2016, 18:30

Ohhh and now the person who told me not to apply for PIA, is the one responsible for my TPI designation. I told the team manager I wanted to switch CMs and guarantee my CM wasn't happy about it.
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Post by Bruce72 on Fri 12 Aug 2016, 18:48

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I was made aware of what documents were used to decide my PIA decision when I received the approval letter in the mail. It was actually quite detailed, unlike anything I've seen from VAC before. I was surprised.

Don't be afraid to ask for a new CM it's your right. Not all case managers are effective and understand the needs of Veterans they serve.

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Post by Vet1234 on Fri 12 Aug 2016, 19:18

I'll ask again for the change. I was ready to give up.
It'd be nice to see the details for the denial, access to information seems a little extreme when it's my own application... maybe I'm overreacting.
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Post by Bruce72 on Fri 12 Aug 2016, 19:39

I can't say for certain, but I suspect VAC makes people go through the Freedom of Information Act because they know the 750,000 vets in Canada would be all over them for immediate access to our files.

Good luck vet1234 and don't hesitate to ask for assistance, if I can help you I will. You can always "private message" me if you prefer to keep your information out of the limelight.

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Re: PIA

Post by pinger on Sat 13 Aug 2016, 12:47

Here's the TPI Policy Document some may find informative...

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1971

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Post by 1993firebird on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 15:27

I just received an answer from VAC to my question is PIA and PIA/S consider income for ELB and the answer will shock most on here.

Dear Mr. Trzop,

Thank you for using My VAC Account and our secure E-mail services.

Your PIA and PIA supplement are considered as income for the
purposes of your Earnings Loss application.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please contact
us again via My VAC Account or our toll-free number 1-866-522-2122.

Sincerely,

Mike Franceschini
Inquiries Analyst
Veterans Affairs Canada

What to do about this because if it is considered income for ELB then it might be considered income for LTD as well which I am currently receiving and never reported PIA and PIA/S as income.

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Post by Rifleman on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 15:35

Holly frack I was told by vac it was not WOW !!!

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Post by 1993firebird on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 15:42

I am eligible ELB as well and must fill out the income form for the 15% increase so not sure to report PIA and PIA /S or not as income.

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Re: PIA

Post by Vet1234 on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 15:43

That doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Vet1234 on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 15:46

If PIA/S were considered income, they would reduce the amount of ELB received and all the publications in which VAC touts additional benefits would be wrong.
VAC published a "new veterans charter" infographic, where they show PIA being added to ELB...
I'll try and find the link
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Re: PIA

Post by Trooper on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 15:53

Earnings Loss Benefit

17 An application under subsection 18(1) or 22(1) of the Act shall be in writing and shall include

22 The following sources are prescribed for the purpose of the amount of variable B in subsection 19(1) of the Act:

(a) [Repealed, SOR/2012-195, s. 1]

(b) benefits payable under the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act, the Public Service Superannuation Act or the Employment Insurance Act;

(c) benefits payable under the Canada Pension Plan or the Act Respecting the Québec Pension Plan other than amounts payable for a dependent child;

(d) benefits payable under any employer-sponsored long-term disability insurance plan;

(e) benefits payable in respect of economic loss under the Government Employees Compensation Act or any provincial workers’ compensation legislation;

(f) amounts payable in respect of economic loss arising from legal liability to pay damages;

(g) amounts payable under an employer pension plan;

(h) employment earnings payable while the veteran is not participating in a rehabilitation plan or vocational assistance plan developed by the Minister or where the veteran is participating in such a plan and the sum of the earnings loss payable for a month plus the employment earnings for the month exceeds the veteran’s imputed income; and

(i) 50% of employment earnings payable while the veteran is participating in a rehabilitation plan or vocational assistance plan developed by the Minister so long as the sum of the earnings loss payable for a month plus the employment earnings for the month does not exceed the veteran’s imputed income.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2006-50/page-3.html#h-6
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Re: PIA

Post by pinger on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 16:08

Lordy lordy. The pia and the supplement along WITH any form of elb is taxed period.
Pia and/or supplement does NOT reduce my eelb vet1234. It don't happen.

Sisip may be a different can of worms...
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Re: PIA

Post by Trooper on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 16:12

I think it's best to ask for a reference when in doubt, in this particular case, no such reference would be found, as my above reference proves.
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Re: PIA

Post by Vet1234 on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 16:13

pinger wrote:Lordy lordy. The pia and the supplement along WITH any form of elb is taxed period.
Pia and/or supplement does NOT reduce my eelb vet1234. It don't happen.

Sisip may be a different can of worms...

Good! I'm hoping my application gets the nod.
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Post by Guest on Mon 19 Sep 2016, 16:22

they don't deduct it from SISIP either .

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