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Post by Teentitan on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 13:06

Like I said before Rex VAC is now compartmentalized for each group of veterans (20) and because we just finished the Afghan tour the compartment that needs the most attention is the NVC.

2 years ago it was SDA/CF soldiers who had their LTD stolen from them. Returned at a pretty nickel.

The Summit was the same way each group had a compartment they wanted fixed. Some can be fixed by just doing/changing the wording or doing a memo to cabinet to fix a benefit.

That's why I'm waiting to see how the new veteran-centric approach is going to work and how effective it will be. Walt Natynzyk is the boss in this new approach and by the looks of it it's starting to work.

You guys know I don't give a fiddlers fadoo who wins the next election. Whoever wins I will be at the table with concerns from all the vets here on CSAT.

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Post by Riddick on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 19:19

I believe the majority will agree the Conservative Government has not done nearly enough for the veterans who have done more for this country than the politicians. Mr. Harper is the one who calls the shots. He has no problem sending more troops to where ever and whenever he choses and does not care if they come back missing limbs or not. All the programs in the world won’t help pay the mortgage, put food on the table, put the kids through school or pay the bills; we need financial support! My souse no longer is bringing in money, but she has a full time job being my caregiver and looking after the rest of the family as well……

The Minister keeps on insulting our intelligence and patience by throwing bread crumbs and hoping we will vote Conservatives. I have written John Larlee, the Chair for the VRAB along with the Minister himself. Neither care about us. Mr. Larlee suggested I go through the Federal Court of Canada for an appeal. He knows full-well the VRAB is self-governing and are above the law and don’t need to listen to what the Federal Court says. The Minister wants the VRAB around for the sole purpose to save the government money. The VRAB is biased and change the rules as they see fit. I have been denied by the VRAB numerous times. They claimed the opinion of my 2 doctors (specialists in their field) were uncredible and did so by using an online medical dictionary which the Federal Court of Canada says they can’t do…….but again VRAB is above the law. They called me uncredible yet failed to provide a reason(s), neglected to use any inference or benefit of doubt in my favor and based their decision on weak assumptions and I am only one of many veterans who have ongoing issues with VRAB.

I also written Mr. Peter Stoffer (NDP Veterans Critic) who was kind and professional enough to return my call and personally speak to me (thank you again Mr. Stoffer). He believes there should be a Public Inquiry.........and so do I.

Between our families and friends and their friends, us veterans have the “Strength in Numbers” to choose who we want to represent us in parliament. Flip flopping from the Conservatives to Liberals and back to the Conservatives and then back to the Liberals is redundant. We need to be on the same page; for 5% to choose one party, 15% to choose another and the other 80% to not vote and or choose various other parties would be very counter productive.

We need help for the veterans that are alive today and this government does not believe in any “Sacred Obligation” or giving us what we deserve. The NVC is a bunch of garbage. This document be it “misunderstood” or not, is not working and not what veterans deserve. I for one did not fall off any turnip truck and am not going to buy into any politician trying to make a name for himself.

The Harper government needs to step up to the plate NOW….or make room for a government that will!
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Re: Five MVA

Post by Guest on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 19:51

clap... clap... clap... A plus Mr Riddick.

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Post by Guest on Sun 26 Apr 2015, 20:30

The thing is that the problem is that no government will - or is willing to number one, make a significant improvement that reflects the vast majority of Veterans. Number two, no government is willing to admit that the old pension act along with the momentum of improvements to it, would have been more beneficial to the whole of Veterans, and would have been far more excepted amongst the Veterans compared to the mess that the NVC has brought and will continue to be controversial mess for many many years to come.
Number three, no government is willing to come forward and admit that there should have been more of an understanding of the full scope of the NVC an how it would compare to the old act before they all signed off on it.
Number four, and this is a big one, most of the personnel who are in the position to change things, have publicly stated that major progress is being made, and before to long the NVC will be far better then it's predecessor.

I think in order for anyone to make a sound judgement on there concerns moving forward it is wise to except that it is extremely difficult to be heard loud and clear, to be understood loud and clear, and to have any of there (MAJOR)  concerns addressed when the personnel in charged on implementing these (MAJOR) concerns are of the opinion that this has already taken place.

So like I have already said, yes the government is lacking, and yes the government is of the opinion that there not lacking, fixing gaps within a messed  up charter is not major, and this is what I think Veterans will have to deal with for a long time to come. These fixing of these gaps that gives an impression that major reforms are being addressed.
I am happy with the fact that there's movement on our file, what I'm not happy with is the lack of major movements that affect all Veterans equally across the board.
I am not happy that there is a lack of understanding that these fixing of gaps within a messed up charter, is welcomed to a certain degree, but the problem lies way beyond fixing gaps.

We had a controversial discussion awhile back about those Veterans that are in combat - or have seen combat - or have been injured in combat, versus those who were not, and placing them into two different groups for benefit purposes.
The NVC I think not only is geared towards this, it goes far beyond that, it suggest putting Veterans back in the work force for the purpose of future benefit entitlements, and it gives a lump sum payment instead of a lifelong pension, and the highest amount of this lump sum goes to very little Veterans.
It is set up to show smaller entitlements that vary across the charter, it is categorizing Veterans as they are sent out the gate by way of being medically released.
In short it's bad news all the way around, at least from my chair.

This is where the problems are coming from, and unfortunately changing governments is not the way out, understanding the real problems, and making the bold move to act, is I think the only way out.
I'm sorry but fixing gaps in an already broken system won't, at least in my opinion bring back the security that is needed for all of the disabled Veterans of today.

Again, just my opinion, not meant to insult anyone.

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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 08:33

I would like to have a one on one with harper. Tell him what a lying money wasting two faced dishonest fkn criminal he is. and i am sick to the fact that tax payers have paid him millions and will continue to pay him millions in the future either as a minister or in pension money i sure hope Canadians use some common sense and get rid of this moron before he does further damage to the Canadian people. come on Canada lets get rid of the power hungry dictator. And if there was true justice let veterans adjudicate on his performance to see if he deserves a pension for life.

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Post by Slaket on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 08:53

How can the GOC/VAC not compensate for injuries/disabilities via the NVC at par with what Provincial bodies do WRT civilians with the same categorical injuries? If only they would treat and compensate those who have sacrificed and will continue to do so while under the GOC's tender.
I recently read an article ( I wish I could find it again) of the comparison in payouts between VAC and other democratic veteran agencies. It was breathtaking. We are still 40-70,000 short of the average provincial governments. Why is that? I really can not grasp this. If the government falls short on the recognition level, then in my mind(medicated as it is) they will short change all programs beyond that without blinking an eye.
Why must we fight the government for equal recognization?

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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 09:38

Riddick you got her right buds we need to start voting on block in mass . politicians are all about money and votes to them one means the other . if you can give them or take away either or both of them they will listen to you.

who should vets vote for ??? god only knows . NDP has a lot of good PROMISES that are far better than the con's proposals . I believe the cons have a big carrot to dangle pre election because they have followed the political playbook I posted some time ago to a T so far except for the carrot so I think it will come . as for the libs wellll still nothing .

boys if we can show not only the will but the ability to fire politicians they will listen . this is the weapon we want and we need to use it to show every party that we will . that in itself will make things better for disabled vets ,

until we have the political organization we need VOTE just VOTE .

don't let anyone try and tell you voting one way ore another will not matter .

you cant change things.

its all the bureaucrats doing changing government doesn't matter.

and all the other crap a party in power will spout out going into a close election just to keep you out of the voting booth .

if we cant vote in block as of yet we can still vote on mass .

get out there come election day and vote its your right and your vote does matter and can change things.

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Post by Riddick on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 09:58

Having a one on one with Harper.....hmmmm he is a politician you know and I am sure most know what politicians are good at! And they will do it right in front of your face to!!  We need someone who can think outside the box and Lead not Follow.

We need a government that will look after the best interest of our country which includes but not limited to:

        - Look after our precious resources.  Many Prime Ministers follow the States and as such if they go down, the likelihood of us going down to is very real.  The amount of money that is spent trying to explore if there was ever water on Mars is asinine.  Spend money on this planet and clean our oceans and sky/air....not only will we save billions we can keep the planet that is best suited for our survival.....kinda ironic.......we have the perfect place to live....right here.

        - Keep jobs and industry in Canada.....buy Canadian or American not from China!....selling us out is not good for Canadians period!

        - Education and poverty go in the same direction.  Look after our own first.  Sure it's nice to send millions to another country so our countries can see how awesome Canada is.........but only after our people are looked after.

        - You want to send our troops to war with no conditions and tell them they have to stay longer than originally planned.....well look after them when they come back with the same criteria.  First and foremost, look after them while they are alive! Travelling all over the world acknowledging their sacrifice only after they leave this world is admirable but does nothing for helping the one's that need help today.....If the government can't do that, then let the politicians send their son's and daughters off to war......ya I can hear everyone laughing.

        - Canada has huge oil reserves in Alberta yet we are so dependent on other countries.......how about keeping money within our borders.  If it takes years to extract the oil from the sand.....so be it.......keep Canadians employed.  If we go in debt....so what.....far better to owe money to Canadians than another country....makes sense to me.

SOOOOO..... who is worthy to Lead Canada and give Canadians what we want, need and deserve?  I know who is not worthy........Food for thought.

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Post by Riddick on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 10:08

Propat....Yes .....exactly.....we need to VOTE, VOTE, VOTE.

We all want what each of us feel is best for us......but that will never happen......Politicians change their promises! There was an article on the government making campaign speeches and politicians believe they should not be held to their campaign promises after they are elected..... hahahahahah

But again ....we the people have the power..... but the strength comes in numbers...... to unite is what needs to be done. Mr. Mulcair does appear to have a backbone.........but .....can he/will he ......listen?

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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 10:57

You ever run for office Riddick you got my vote you are 100% grade A canadian.

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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 11:59

I am liking this - great points of views guy's.

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Post by Riddick on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 13:13

Thank you Wild Thing the vote of confidence. Cool

Yes I would love to represent Canadians...........for the same reason(s) when I was in the military. We all had aspirations of making it big in the ranks.....so we could make better decisions......one's that applied "common sense". We all had some resentment when our so-called "superiors" would humiliate us. We wanted to treat people like humans with mutual respect which went up and down, instead of being insulted and referred to as..."maggot".

Still young at heart, I was one of those people who was raised in a time where a hand-shake was a sign of a honest and honourable person.

I could not get in front of a crowd and make false promises and outright lie to people; my family, friends and neighbours and expect to get a good nights sleep.

Ohhh wait........maybe I could....... I would get a huge salary......work for a few years and get an awesome life-long pension.....and even have someone do my makeup...... retire knowing you screwed millions of people without having to kiss them!.....now who could ask for more than that.....time to re-evaluate my priorities!!.........K...evaluating done....I could not forfiet my pride and self-respect.

To Thine Own Self Be True.

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Post by pinger on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 14:27

Very well said Riddick. But I don't think being a politican would work for you...
You have a conscience.
Michael Harris the journalist wrote a book called Party of One.
He was on The Agenda with Steve Paikin here...
 http://tvo.org/video/212620/michael-harris-harper-hot-seat
Interesting, he doesn't think Harper is corrupt but rather amoral.

And if that's the case maybe some inmates would make fine politicians, or should that be the other way around? pinger.
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Post by Riddick on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 17:05

I know I am slightly off topic...but the big picture.......meaning/referring to veterans.....a government that is best for veterans should also be best for everyone else. Michael Harris (author of Party of One) indicated decisions were/are made "strategically" vice "ethically", that I agree with.

I do not follow politics but regardless what education or how long one has followed or been involved in politics be it an analyst, critic, journalist, advisor etc., a debate/controversy/argument can be made on every topic. With one hundred of our sharpest minds involved we will get one hundred different answers and opinions......who does one believe/follow?.....So much for being educated. We need to "dumb" things down........go back to the basic and fundamental principles of a democratic society. Treating the "people" (Canadians) like mushrooms, keeping us in the dark and feeding us B.S. is not what we want or are about. We need to take back our country......politicians/government are suppose to work for us, not against us with their own agenda(s).

Ok that is it for me......

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Post by Teentitan on Mon 27 Apr 2015, 17:49

Riddick one of the best ways to dumb it down is hopefully underway with the Duffy trial. The Senate is and can be the best way for Canadians to send the message keep it honest and respect Canadians.

The Senate over the the last 10-15 years has been only controversy, cronism, stacked and embarassing.

The Senate has been around for how long and the living allowance hasn't been properly defined?

Sending a strong message to get rid of the Senate will, hopefully, put into MP's minds " do the job or I'm next "
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