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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by Teager on Wed 30 Mar 2016, 22:28

Can anyone here give some more insight on this program on the vocational side? Is it possible to do University? I'm currently with SISIP but took no education or re-training with them. I don't expect to stay with SISIP and be put over to VAC ELB (already approved) and then onto this program. Are these tests mentioned above required for all who enter the program? Thanks

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Post by Guest on Thu 31 Mar 2016, 06:39

Depending on your individual needs and goals, your rehabilitation plan may fund one or more of the following types of services:

Medical Rehabilitation. Health care experts work with you to stabilize and restore your health to the fullest extent possible.
Psychosocial Rehabilitation. Health or rehabilitation professionals help you develop skills to support independence and adjust to living with your health problem or disability. This can include life skills training, pain management strategies, and more.
Vocational Rehabilitation. Vocational professionals will work with you to help transfer your skills and education to build a rewarding civilian career. Vocational rehabilitation or vocational assistance may include:
help to identify a suitable job;
career finding services (such as résumé writing and interview skills);
financial support for training and related costs (such as tuition and books).
You will build your vocational rehabilitation plan with the direct assistance of our service provider Canadian Veterans Vocational Rehabilitation Services. If you are receiving benefits from the Service Income Security Insurance Plan (SISIP), you and your case manager may also work with a SISIP vocational rehabilitation counsellor.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/transition/rehabilitation/services

Also from the Mandate Liberal promises to Veterans number 5:

5. Create a new Veterans Education Benefit that will provide full support for the costs of up to four years of college, university, or technical education for Canadian Forces veterans after completion of service.

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Post by Teager on Thu 31 Mar 2016, 22:23

Thanks Trooper. Was wondering if they give you a choice in the matter for voc rehab or try to say take these College courses and not University? Also is there a link to the benefits like child care and Internet fees covered while in Voc rehab? I remember reading it on VACs site but can't find it. Thanks for the help.

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Post by Guest on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 06:47

Rehabilitation related expenses: for the purpose of this policy, are the costs listed under paragraph 15(1)(b) and subsection 15(2) of the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Regulations (CFMVRCR) identified as transportation, accommodations, meals, travel outside the country, health needs/escort, and additional dependent care. These expenses may be incurred by the participant in accessing departmentally authorized rehabilitation or vocational assistance services, other than training related expenses

A maximum of $75 per day for additional dependent care, as per subclauses 15(1)(b)(i)(A)(iv) of the CFMVRCR, is an eligible expense where the following conditions apply:
the Rehabilitation/Vocational Assistance Program participant normally provides unpaid care to a minor child, disabled adult or elderly person on a regular basis;
the care is essential to ensure the personal safety or health of the individual for whom the care is provided or to maintain their activities of daily living;
the substitute care is required when the client or spouse is participating in the Program;
the participant has the responsibility for arranging for paid temporary substitute care;
the cost incurred is additional to the cost of any paid care that is already provided to the dependent. For example, the participant may already be paying for full day child care program and be able to participate in rehabilitation services while a child attends that program so that no additional costs are incurred.
Dependent care may be provided by friends, relatives or a professional provider as the circumstances require.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1199

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Post by Artie Simm on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 01:21

This thread is a year old. can anyone tell me what going through VAC`s Voc Rehab entails currently?, i.e. If I lost my job tomorrow and went to see my CM where would it all begin?. Is there an aptitude test you take to see what you`re good at? What if you have no skills transferable to a civilian job and you can no longer do the one you were currently in. If you have mental issues does the Voc Rehab consist only of visiting a shrink a few times a week or can/will you be attending some type of education at the same time? I ask because I have been diagnoised with PTSD for some time, I have been holding down a job, but that window is closing. If I lose it, I`m over 50 years old with no real special atributes. I realize VAC will cover me for 2 years at 90% of my former military pay while I attend psychologist sessions, but how does VAC determine what new job I should take on? Is there a flat out test with math, grammar etc to see where I`m at after all these years of being out of school?
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What is a rehabilitation plan?

Post by Guest on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 05:53

What is a rehabilitation plan?

Your rehabilitation plan is developed by you and your case manager. Your family is encouraged to take part in developing your plan.

To achieve a successful outcome, the plan will identify:

your goals;
the services and benefits you will need to reach your goals;
local service providers to help you achieve those goals; and
a timeframe to complete your plan.

How is that done?

Your VAC case manager will work with you and your family to help you identify your rehabilitation goals, taking into consideration your health problem. The ultimate goal for you and your case manager is the successful completion of your rehabilitation plan as this will best help you adjust to life at home, in your community or at work.

You and your case manager will build a plan to achieve your goals. The plan will outline the services you need to reach your goals (e.g. physiotherapy, pain management, addictions counseling, occupational therapy) and provide a timeframe for completing your plan.

During your participation in your rehabilitation plan, your case manager, health professionals and other professionals will help you improve your health to the fullest extent possible and pursue your vocational goals.

Your plan is complete when you have reached all of the identified goals, to the extent possible.

You are the key to your plan’s success!

A successful rehabilitation plan is the result of the partnership between you, your case manager and the health professionals working with you.

Throughout the lifetime of your plan, it is very important to communicate. Providing timely and complete information about yourself and any challenges you are facing is critical. Share this information whenever you meet with your case manager, the health professionals providing services to you, and anyone else involved in helping you reach your rehabilitation goals.

From start to finish, your VAC case manager will:

work closely with you and your family;
help identify information and services you may need;
coordinate between you, your health professionals, and other service providers;
respect your privacy and the confidentiality of your information;
help you develop support networks; and
monitor, evaluate and discuss your progress on a regular basis.

NOTE:

Plans are time limited – Your rehabilitation plan has a beginning and an end date.
Full Participation is expected - Failure to do so could affect the progress and continuation of your program.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/transition/rehabilitation/plan

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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by Artie Simm on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 06:58

Thanks for this but what about the rehab plan itself. i.e. If my goal was to get back into the work place does VAC have a generic questionaire to fill out or a GED type test to see where you are at academically.? The physical part can be taken care of by medical professionals, I`m just wondering about job opportunities, I just don`t know at this stage of my life what I would be good at? How can VAC help me there, there must be a limit to the type of work a veteran can suggest he`s like to delve into.
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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by bigrex on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 07:19

They have counselors who will do a aptitude test, to see what types of things you are best suited for, based on your own likes and personal skills, along with the skills and training acquired in the military. You can specify a specific field, but it may not be approved, if they do not agree with it. Like they may not approve an Electrician, going to school to become a masseuse, if they are still physically capable of being an electrician.

But that being said, there is very little training that an Artillery soldier receives, that directly transfers to a civie career, so I doubt you will be curtailed in your choices, to any great degree.
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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by johnny211 on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 08:32

Artie Simm - When I was going thru this with my CM, she asked me what I thought I would like to do. Then I picked a couple of trades that interest me. These where trades at my local college. So then i called a couple of places that had these trades, and ask if I could come to the job sites for a half day or so. I did this, and settled on one.
But I will pre warn you, to not to let VAC push you into something you can't do mentally. Like you, I suffer from ptsd, at times we have our bad times. And like you I was 53, going back to College, with mostly 19 yr olds. The nine months was a real challenge, at times I didn't think I could finish it. But I graduated, got a good job. But then this was where the monster arose again, and as you know our concentration and memory sucks. My indication I was fracked came when they asked me to leave what I was doing and sweep the floor.. That probably was one of the hardest days for me, when we have to admit, ok I'm fracked and can't do this.
All this time I was seeing my pscy every couple of weeks. In conjunction with her, my CM, with another assessment, it was determined I could no longer work, and the TPI process began. As well as EELB.
So we all take different rds old soldier. This was mine. If you think school will be to hard mentally, then your Rehab should consist of pscy and working on it. So in the end, I now do that trade as a hobby..lol
Hope my insight helps. Stay Calm, Johnny Out,,VVV
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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by Vet1234 on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 13:53

If vocational rehabilitation is an option, VAC uses a 3rd party called CVVRS.
Canadian Vocational Rehabilitation Services is in BC but has contracts with agencies across the country. In many places CVVRS has agents with the March of Dimes.
The Vocational specialist will order psych-vocational and aptitude testing. They will also discuss your previous experience, strengths, weaknesses, barriers to employment and help you find a program that works and provides an opportunity for suitable gainful employment. The specialist will research the job market and together you will develop a plan. The plan will be sent to your case manager for review and clarification/ approval.
The specialist will facilitate everything with respect to your enrollment and making sure you have the tools, equipment and resources needed to complete your training.
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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by bog6 on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 17:35

here is another question with regards VOC Rehab to my spouse. I am deemed unable to work and the education portion of VOC Rehab is than to my spouse, do i continue on ELB @ 90% till 65yrs?

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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by Guest on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 17:55

bog6,

Not sure if I got your question right, if you were on rehab, and no longer could continue and was granted ELB, yes you would get it until age 65, even though your wife has been given the education assistance from your rehab.

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Post by bigrex on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 21:41

As long as you have been deemed TPI, you will continue to get the ELB until age 65, and RISB after that. The fastest way to tell, is log onto your VAC My Account, and it will list your current benefits. EELB is the only benefit with an actual end date, which should be your 65th birthday. I've gone through the same situation. I've been on ELB for several years, and my wife is in the last few moths of a two year course, paid for by VAC.
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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by Artie Simm on Tue 21 Feb 2017, 22:48

johnny211 wrote:Artie Simm - When I was going thru this with my CM, she asked me what I thought I would like to do. Then I picked a couple of trades that interest me. These where trades at my local college. So then i called a couple of places that had these trades, and ask if I could come to the job sites for a half day or so. I did this, and settled on one.
  But I will pre warn you, to not to let VAC push you into something you can't do mentally. Like you, I suffer from ptsd, at times we have our bad times. And like you I was 53, going back to College, with mostly 19 yr olds. The nine months was a real challenge, at times I didn't think I could finish it. But I graduated, got a good job. But then this was where the monster arose again, and as you know our concentration and memory sucks. My indication I was fracked came when they asked me to leave what I was doing and sweep the floor.. That probably was one of the hardest days for me, when we have to admit, ok I'm fracked and can't do this.
  All this time I was seeing my pscy every couple of weeks. In conjunction with her, my CM, with another assessment, it was determined I could no longer work, and the TPI process began. As well as EELB.
  So we all take different rds old soldier. This was mine. If you think school will be to hard mentally, then your Rehab should consist of pscy and working on it. So in the end, I now do that trade as a hobby..lol
  Hope my insight helps. Stay Calm, Johnny Out,,VVV
Thanks, that`s about where I stand. 50+ but no aptitude for mechanics, electrical, plumbing, carpentry etc...as an ex-infanteer I`m probably looking at some Night watchman position but what would that pay, minimum wage, I can`t feed a family on that if it happened, I`d rather be dead.
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Re: VAC Rehab program

Post by Bruce72 on Wed 22 Feb 2017, 07:10

I released back in November of '06 but didn't apply for VocRehab until September of '09.  I began VocRehab in December of '09 and my rehab plan lasted 5 years give or take.

The army called it quits on my career for me and when I released I had no idea what benefits I qualified for.  Although I did have monthly VAC pensions in place for my feet and knees. Army doctor urged me to apply, otherwise I may have missed the April 1, 2006 deadline kicked in.

I stayed drunk for the first three years after my release,  but then my case manager suggested VocRehab.  I still drink, but only 2 days a week now.  Those two days are mine.

Anyways, I'm going off topic......


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