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Post by koreankid on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:08

Hello to all,
I have uncovered what I believe to be fraudulent adjudication documents from VAC. The signed documents I have, VAC will not verify that they came from them.My federal MP refused to send copies of these documents to VAC for verification.My MP is a PC like Erin Otoole and believe she is covering up for VAC. I found 2 other decision documents online signed by the same adjudicator F.G. Skinner, and these 2 signatures match, but don't match my decision letters signature. The signature on my decision letter has been altered. My ATIP documents don't have a copy of the signed documents in them.I have found 2 internal VAC documents by a pension officer also unsigned.  I have tried for 2 and a half months by secure email to have VAC verify these signed documents have come from them and VAC will not respond to me by email, phone, or letter.
What I need is to see a copy of an up to date decision letter as my lawyer also thinks that the decision letter has been done on computer software and not printed in letter form so the signature is part of the letter. I have a medical document done the same way, but when I contacted the clinic they printed it in letter form where the signature was part of the document.Both decision letters online have the signature on the same page as part of the letter, and my decision has a seperate page with no writing, just a signature.
Any help to view a copy of someones decision letter might be the smoking gun for many veterans with what I think we have uncovered. I am currently getting an affidavit prepared to take the adjudicator to court to verify my documents.
I am spending thousands to help myself and other vets. Please help me. A copy of any decision letter will help, but one signed by F.G. Skinner would be even better. You can black out your name and personal information as this is needed to confirm our suspicions. OR can someone confirm if the signature on their decision letter is directly under the ending of the letter or is the signature on a separate page of the letter. VERY IMPORTANT Please help me , THANK YOU


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Post by koreankid on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:32

I know Korea was forgotten, but am I forgotten too!!!! Could someone please help me?

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Re: Korean Veteran Needs Help

Post by teentitan on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 16:34

What exactly do you think you have uncovered? Your request is very confusing. Also have you contacted the Ombudsman's Office for help?
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Post by koreankid on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 18:00

Sorry Teen, I will explain a little further and thank you for responding. I am challenging the legality of my adjudication. My adjudication has about 15 what I feel are intentional mistakes in it and my lawyer agrees that to do this the adjudicator has shown no "fair adjudication" in regards to legislation and policy. For an adjudicator to do this my lawyer says that the adjudicator is responsible for their personal actions in a civil matter. Thus being the reason VAC will not verify the signed documents in my possession, there are no copies at VAC with the signature I have,internal documents are unsigned by the pension officers, and I have found 2 other decision letters online signed by the same adjudicator which don't match the signature of my decision letter by the same adjudicator.

My lawyer also agrees that the signature on my decision letter has been altered or forged by someone at VAC most likely for performance bonuses as they screwed me out of about $750,000 or better. I figured that my SIGNED documents weren't right from the start and that is why I contacted VAC and asked for a copy of the signed documents to be sent to me. They don't have any? I went to my federal member of parliament and asked her office to help me get VAC to verify the signed documents in my possession from VAC and her office refused to send them to VAC to confirm that VAC had sent these to me . My MP refused to do this and sent me a letter that they contacted VAC head office by fax and requested an inquiry. My MP will not give me a copy of the fax to VAC and we don't have a copy of this in my ATIP files. My lawyer thinks that they never requested an inquiry from VAC but just sent us a letter that make us think they asked for an inquiry.
Because I had a medical file that was completed on computer software with drop down boxes, I couldn't read some of the information on it and contacted the clinic and they transferred the data and printed it out as a letter. This is where my adjudication is done in the same manner, and you can't read some of the same information because of the drop down boxes. This is how we have figured that my adjudication was done off record because of the intentional mistakes and no signatures on anything. No one wants to be civilly liable for what has been done.VAC could have simple sent a letter confirming my signed documents. But they won't. I have emailed for 2 1/2 months saying the documents are fraudulent and VAC will not respond. I have internal emails I got through ATIP from the workers to each other and one reads "We can't answer this guy by email"- Obviously they would make themselves and VAC liable for what is happening. When you print the decision letter off of the computer software prior to going into the files the software ends on a full page and then they have added an extra page with a signature. The 2 decision letters by the same adjudicator found online end wherever on the page such as halfway down and the signature is right under the half page of decision letter. Meaning the signature is part of the document. These 2 decision letters don't have any drop boxes on them as mine does.
This is also why my payment officer documents don't have a signature on the first page telling me of my award, but has a 3rd page with just a signature. This would be so you can't tie the signature to the rest of the documents.
As my documents are not printed out as a letter like the other 2 found online, my lawyer even believes my adjudication was done off record and nothing was signed so no one is liable for their actions.
I sim ply need to see someones adjudication to see if it is in the same format as mine or if it is the same as the older ones I found online and then I will know if my document has been done fraudulently or not.
Think of yourself writing a letter that is a page and a half long and then you sign the document under the half page on the end, there is no disputing that it is your document because your signature is on a page with half the letter. My documents are convieniently ended exactly on a full page because of the computer software that was used, meaning the signature isn't signed under the last page of the letter. I have a blank page for the final page with the altered signature. We feel that this adjudication was done like this and an extra page with a signature was added to the adjudication. The same with the payment officer documents as well, so that the signature isn't on the same page as the last page of the letters.Both decision letters found online end about half way down the page and the signature is on this page.
If I can't get a copy of the signed documents from VAC or have them confirm that the signature goes with all the other pages of my documents for adjudication, they can simply change any pages and send to veterans review board.If my decision was printed out as an actual letter as the one found online it would most likely end somewhere on the final page with room for a signature.
This is why I need to find out how other decision letters are printed out. As an actual letter as the other 2 or with drop boxes as mine is.I just need to see someone elses current decision letter and I will know. I don't need to see any of their personal information, they can black this out, I just need to see the format of the letter and where the signature is on the end page and if part of the letter is on the same page as the signature. This is really important and I need some help with this.
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Re: Korean Veteran Needs Help

Post by teentitan on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 20:09

Have you contacted the OVO?
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Post by koreankid on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 22:08

Not yet because I am still gathering evidence and my lawyer doesn't want VAC to know certain things until court or they will try to cover it all up. Awestruck at the moment that not one veteran on this site has even tried to help me by even telling me where their adjudicators signature is located on their decision letter. Its costing me tens of thousands to bring the beast down and that doesn't bother me, its the fact no one can even responds and tells me if the adjudicators signature is on a separate page than the decision letter. UNREAL. I am going to try Army.ca maybe someone there will look at their decision letter and tell me if the adjudicators signature is on a separate page or not. Such an easy question for all to answer and not a bit of help!!!!
Thank you Teen, at least you had the respect to reply back and I thank You

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Re: Korean Veteran Needs Help

Post by sabrelove on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 22:43

Korean Kid. I cannot help you as I have no letters to refer to that you are looking for. If I can't help or don't have anything to add, I don't normally respond so as not to waste people's time or bandwidth. I imagine others do the same.

Also, this is the long weekend and you only posted this today. Every time I came on CSAT today, I was the only person online. Please be patient and give people a chance to get back to their computers. There is usually someone that can help.

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Post by koreankid on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 23:31

Thanks for the words of encouragement, I just need a little help before I take the VAC adjudicator to court. it's not about the money I'm spending, it's about stopping what has been done to me so this doesn't happen to the next vet and others can see they can take the adjudicator to court for their actions.My CO told us in Korea never give up and fight to the end. if you come across anyone with a current decision letter please ask them to contact me on this, I would really appreciate the help. Your words have given me the boost I needed thanks again

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Re: Korean Veteran Needs Help

Post by James. on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 08:47

Koreankid, in looking at a 2003 favorable decision by the VRAB on the first page titled RULING there are three names with corresponding titles but with no signatures on our copy rather it states ORIGINAL SIGNED BY. Hope this helps.

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Re: Korean Veteran Needs Help

Post by Guest on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 10:07

sorry so late buds long wknd and all just found a VRAB one from 02 . no signatures in the signature blocks . nothing in the presiding members signature block . a stamp in the members block saying "original signed by" just like james .

hope this helps

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original veterns affairs decision letter

Post by koreankid on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 10:13

No, that doesn't help James but I appreciate your effort.I need to see a veterans affairs Canada original decision letter. If you look up Harvey Friesen on google, you will see what I need to view, but, Harvey's is from 2007 and I need to look at 1 from 2013-2015 that is more current.As you look at this you will see the adjudicator signature is on the same page of the ending of the letter. my adjudicators signature is not at the ending with the letter, but is on a separate page and my adjudication letter is totally different than harveys. I need to see a current decision letter as my lawyer and I are very close to proving fraud by VAC. everyone just accepts the adjudicators decision and goes to review and don't understand that if the adjudicator doesn't show you a "fair adjudication"
with regards to policy and legislation you can sue them personally in civil court for their actions. then go to review with this evidence.

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Post by koreankid on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 10:19

no, I need to see a current veterans affairs decision letter that I am sure someone on here has to have if they have had an disability application with vac. this is the smoking gun that will help take the giant to it's knees. if you know anyone with a current decision letter from vac please have have them contact me here. thanks for the effort.

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Post by Guest on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 10:26

oh crap sorry buds I don't have anything that current .will call around buds see what I can find.

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Re: Korean Veteran Needs Help

Post by BinRat on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 10:28

Ya I know VRAB one's the signature blocks are on the Front page, right under the title part..
I am looking for a 1st application one as we speak..

Koreankid, is this a 1st application Letter or a VRAB decision?

Now with that said, I had a departmental review, and it comes like a 1st application, with a Attached letter stating what this is about and is signed by someone else in Adjudicative services
then on page 1, name, date,
Condition
Decision in my case was Confirmed not granted
Decision under review, evidence, our decision, reason for decision, page 3 our conclusion
and page 4 it has this only

-4-

For advice on your option, you may contact:
: a lawyer, free of charge, at the Beureau of Pension Advocates at
1-888-228-2250 (toll-free); or
A representative, free of charge froma veterans Organization; or
a representative of your choice at your own expense.

Big Signature block
Disability Adjudicator name W/Signature

Veterans Affairs Canada

oh and bottom right hand corner, my K#/CDN#

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Post by koreankid on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 13:28

This is the one I'm talking about. When you put in your disability application, you receive a decision letter in the mail and its the same one you would submit for a departmental review. That being said, I want all to think about what I'm saying. If you look online at Harvey Friesens decision letter at - cansav.ca/12%20Jan%202007.pdf. you will see that the signature is part of the last page of the decision letter. Now look at your decision letter and you will see that the signature is not part of the last page of the decision letter. This means an adjudication can be done by anyone printed from your notebook file and they can simply take a signature from someone elses older adjudication and add it to your adjudication. For that matter, is the signature on your decision letter a fake? Mine is from the same adjudicator as Harvey Friesens, and the signatures don't match. Probably the reason VAC won't verify my documents are from them, been trying for 2 1/2 months to get them to verify the documents and they won't respond. another thing, is that your adjudicators signature may be from some one that doesn't work their anymore and has be forged or taken from another file and added to your adjudication. Why does everyones files all of a sudden end on a full page and the signature is on a separate page, think about it. Is your adjudicators signature F.G. Skinner by chance? Here is another adjudication for you to look at on line and you will see that the signature on this one also is on the same page as part of the adjudication letter, IT is not like ours and signed on a separate page. Check Harveys out at the above address given above. and look at this one at- http://bluewaternavy.org/LFVAC%20pg3.jpg. Tell me I'm crazy, but ask VAC for a copy of your signed documents and they wont give you any with the signature on them. Any documents signed by an adjudicator on behalf of the minister of Veterans Affairs Canada have to be scanned and a copy has to be kept. I just received my (ATIP) Access to information and Privacy files from ATIP veterans Affairs and their is no copy of this signature, instead they have signed another decision letter and put this in there hoping I would think it was a copy of the original. The signatures aren't the same so it's not a copy. People will do strange things when there are performance bonuses up for grabs. This is why I am taking my adjudicator to court, not only to verify their signature, but to verify that all the documents of the decision letter are with that signature. This will prove not only the signature was done by the adjudicator, but also that the decision letter itself is the adjudicators. With Harvey Friesens it can't be disputed because the signature is part of the decision letter. Ours aren't. Check them out and you will see.

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