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Post by pinger on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 16:32

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/injured-veterans-to-get-choice-over-pensions-or-lump-sum-payments

Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr says his department is drawing up plans to offer injured ex-soldiers the choice of lump-sum payments or lifetime pensions when they leave the military, despite the government’s tight fiscal situation.

“We made commitments to our veterans to offer the lump sum or lifetime pension option,” he said. “We are putting my department through the paces of coming up with real, viable plans to allow veterans that choice, to allow them to make a clear decision (by) understanding the financial ramifications.”

The treatment of veterans became a hot-button issued under the Conservative government. Among the grievances some veterans raised was the Tories’ decision to close nine Veterans Affairs offices, lay off hundreds of frontline staff, and do away with disability pensions.

In an interview with the Citizen this week, Hehr said the Liberal government has an obligation to make good on promises from last year’s election to address the concerns of those who have served in uniform.

“It’s no secret the Conservatives fumbled this file 47 ways to Sunday,” he said. “And we campaigned on doing better. We courted the veteran vote. We courted Canadians’ vote on that commitment, and I have an aggressive mandate letter from Prime Minister Trudeau outlining those responsibilities.”

These include reintroducing lifetime pensions, which were abolished when the Conservatives implemented the New Veterans Charter, a system of benefits for those who had served and were injured after the Korean War.

Focused on getting veterans into the workforce, the charter replaced pensions with a lump-sum payment for injuries and career training. But modern-day veterans, including many who served in Afghanistan, blasted it as unfair. They said the lump sums offered them less support than the previous system.

During the election, the Liberals promised to reintroduce lifelong pensions as an option for those injured while in uniform. But they also promised to increase training opportunities and top up the salaries of those who pursue a civilian career. Hehr said the department is working on both aspects.

“We’re going to be implementing those options for men and women who served in the military to go back to school to complete a four-year degree or go to a trade school if they’d like to build their lives, should that be an option they wish to pursue,” he said.

“So we want to put together a package that works for veterans that understand financial-making decisions and how to get veterans a clear choice as to what’s going to be best for them and their families going forward.”

Hehr emphasized the importance of veterans fully understanding the pros and cons of each option. But he said it’s ultimately up to individuals to decide what works best for them.

“We are going to make a clear option for military men and women who can decide for themselves which stream they wish to choose. And we have to trust to a certain extent that people are going to make a wise choice in this,” he said.

The Liberal platform budgeted $325 million this year, and $1.25 billion over the next four years, in extra spending on veterans’ issues. But that plan was drawn up before the slumping price of oil and the sagging dollar began wrecking havoc on the economy – and the federal government’s anticipated revenues.

Asked whether the government can still afford to move on all its promises, including reintroducing the pensions, Hehr said he stands by its promise to support those who have served in uniform “with care, compassion and respect.”

Hehr did not say when the pensions would be reintroduced, but there’s reason to believe they will be included in this year’s federal budget.

Six disabled Afghan veterans brought a class-action lawsuit against the Conservative government in 2012, alleging that they were being treated unfairly compared to those who fought in the world wars and Korea, because they weren’t able to receive disability pensions.

The two sides agreed before the federal election to put the case on hold until May, 2016 to see whether any changes in the interim would address the veterans’ concerns. A representative for the group said last week they had not yet heard from the Liberals.

While the Conservative government was criticized for its treatment of veterans, many advocates have also accused the department of having an insurance-company mentality that made it difficult for veterans to get the benefits they need.

Hehr instead blamed deep cuts to staff under the Conservatives for many of the problems. The Conservatives’ cut of about 900 positions at Veterans Affairs represented about 23 per cent of its workforce.

“The public service has been inundated with doing difficult work on stringent timelines without the manpower to do so.”

Hehr said the government has hired about 150 of a planned 400 new employees to make up for the cuts at Veterans Affairs, though he wouldn’t say if the government would replace all 900 who were laid off.

“We have to evaluate this,” he said. “But it’s a movement in the correct direction. Of course, we’re going to look at how this process goes and how we’re serving veterans, and we think it’s a good start.”
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Post by Guest on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 17:34

great stuff pinger thank you for that. far more positive than ANYTHING we have hered thus far .

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Post by Rifleman on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 17:54

Yep and yep

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Post by Riddick on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 17:55

Although it is nice to hear something positive vs negative/neutral.......the big thing is.........about flippin' time we got a little feedback/communication and with a little substance to boot!!

I think if we are quick to cry foul we should also be as quick to give credit when credit is do......if we want more communication then a little honey is better than vinegar.

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Post by Trooper on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 18:09

Yes , I agree with all of you...expect more from our MVA in the coming days as the House sits , I believe next Monday.
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Post by Ex Member on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 20:41

Devil is in the details.

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Post by Rags on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 23:14

I am not pleased they will make it a offer to take either or. It should be a pension no cash payment. A 50 year old with wife and kids may not even think of cash but a 19 year old single with out proper guidance would possibly take cash. Then 20 years from now we have a soldier homeless selling pencils on the street. Pension will ensure they will always have enough for food clothing and a roof.

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Post by Teentitan on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 03:32

About time he finally spoke. Not a lot of details some misinformation he stated and distraction but at least they are looking at it.
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Post by Ex Member on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 04:29

Rag's i'm over 50 and i want the monthly pension. i'm going to live another 50 just to get what they owe me maybe 60 fk em lol. no seriously it is more secure than the other programs in nvc. 10 years will give me more than i can get with the lump sum.

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Post by Guest on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 09:22

ya rags I agree that and other reasons give me concerns about the option . thing is we never should have had a buyout . so if we can bring back the PA pension even as an option we gotta try to get that done . been ten long years and time is a factor because things for the buyout guys are not getting better . in fact by the design of this thing they just get worse .

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Post by Ex Member on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 12:23

Pension equals security! Enough said!

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Post by bigrex on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 12:37

That is why I have said that any lump sums payments, should simply be an advance on all, or a portion of the monthly pension, for x number of years. That way a Veteran, especially if they are young and still working, can take that lump sum, say 5 years worth of monthly pension, and then after the five years is up, the monthly cheques start. This would give them that large cheque up front to do with as they wish, down payment on a house or new car, or even help pay for something like a wedding. Especially if they do not qualify for the CIB, without putting them at a disadvantage later on in life.
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Post by Riddick on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 13:27

I receive a pension and have received a lump sum. I like options and choices.....I like both.

Enough said!

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Post by Ex Member on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 13:54

I think every medically released soldier get a 100% PA pension as soon as they are medically released and leave base show some fkn respect Canadians or sign the dotted line yourselves.

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Post by Riddick on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 14:35

Not every soldier/veteran needs to be hand-held and babied for everything, the government can't do it and shouldn't do it. At some point people need to take responsibility for their own actions and if they are old enough to join the military one would think they are old enough to make responsible choices. After all these same people made the decision to join the military without duress, many have made huge financial commitments like purchasing a house, vehicle etc.......did the government intervene and make those decision for them......I don't think so.

Additionally; not every veteran/soldier is at the poverty line financially, some are very well off and may choose to use a lump sum to further their children's education etc. Some veterans may not have much time to live and may choose to help a family member who could get good use out of it.

Having said that....the other side of the coin is: those receiving or about to receive a disability may not have the mental well being or capacity to make a well-informed decision.

My personal belief is that a monthly pension is the best choice......for most......but I don't believe it is best for everyone......

Surviving spouses is as many are aware is something that should be consider and they receive nothing if they get a lump sum......but again........choices..... JMO

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