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Post by Guest on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 05:58

With regards to the request brought forward by a member to have a certain article removed as noted above the request has been denied.
Those that disagree with the response by Admin to not remove is of course your right , Admin has given proper explanation as to why the request has been denied.
I would like to remind all that it was not Admin or anyone from VVi who wrote the article...yes VVi posted it an just like any other article posted...not all agree on what is detailed in an article...but if the article has to do with Veterans...the article should be posted an allowed to be viewed by all.
We must not lose sight of the fact that the article in question is simply an (opinion) we here on the forum react to all sorts of articles that are posted day in an day out...an a lot if not most of the articles are written in a way that are controversial to our eyes...but it is only an opinion by the writer which should not influence any of us to turn against the individual who posted it...we should be encouraging VVi an the members of the Forum to post articles that relate in some shape or form to Veterans as we are all Veterans an that is a part of being involved on this Forum.
I am a fair person an have respect for all of our members an will act an do my best in responding to any concerns brought forward to me...in fact I encourage anyone with any concerns to contact me...however there's always a balance in play with respect to balancing the wishes of all of the members...those that are not happy with the outcome of this particular issue an are stating they want to leave...I'm sorry to see anyone leave but cannot force anyone to stay...that is entirely up to the individuals themselves.
In closing I would say that it is , what it is , it is simply an opinion that is simply not well received by some which in my view we see each an every day on the Forum with most of our articles...an I agree with Admin in saying if you don't like it , don't read it , an further to this I would say or suggest to anyone who has a serious problem with a particular article to take it up with the writer of that article , after all it is the writer responsible for the context an not the person who posted the article.

Thank you Admin for responding to this issue.

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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by Guest on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 08:49

I don't suggest we don't move in conjunction with vets of other countries im saying all other countries problem ARE NOT the same as ours AND ours ARE NOT the same as theirs .

nor have I said implied or suggested CANADIAN vets be divided AT ALL ,fact is we are have been since 06 , the buyout is the part of that legislation that did that .

if you have read my posts from the past you would quickly realize my MAIN goal is actually to UNITE us .

yes ACTICALS suggesting this and that I have read and they are out their .

FILTER THEM OUT!!!!

look at the CANADIAN ones with ACTUAL studies and research.

that will leave you only articles suggesting that NOT ONLY is this not a major problem IN this country but quite the opposite our biggest problem with PTSD is that a large number of people
that actually have PTSD or similar issues ARE NOT getting diagnosed and helped mostly because they don't want to seek help for various reasons .

it comes to mind now im not really sure this is a problem in the US seriously . we had a homeless conversation not that long ago that I was forced to read American research on the topic because WE DONT STUDY the problem ONE STUDY from CANADA is all I can find .

the writer of this article suggests that AMERICAN soldiers ARE faking this for attention and/or money !!!

BUT the latest Harvard study on their homeless vet problem shows ( if I recall correctly ) that approximately 75% of the homeless Iraqi/afgan vets HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED with combat related PTSD AND DO NOT receive compensation OR treatment for this .

they believe due to the young age they left the military they didn't know these things were available to them .

these two articles seem to conflict greatly .

so to me the ACTUAL research from Harvard also seems to suggest that the guy that wrote that article is a lying piece of crap .

yup we may have this problem in the future because the more and more NON evidence based articles like this that are written and posed will give that perception and we all know what happens to perception don't we .

so we may have this problem in the future if only a perceived one because to many that perception is reality .

thanks for listening

ALWAYS QUESTION ATHORITY

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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by Rifleman on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 10:12

I have read the artical and I do not agree with it and I also believe it sends a bad message to personal who may think they have symptoms that relate to ptsd to shy away from getting help that is required in order to try and live some type of normal life if that's what you want to call it and from my point of view I know for myself I went through a very long process before I was told I had ptsd weeks of testing months of appointments and then and only then was it put to pen and paper and confirmed and then sent to vac to me what I went through I just find it hard to comprehend why anybody would want to do that

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Post by bigrex on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 10:47

I'm sorry, I have not been diagnosed with PTSD, but my father has, and I grew up knowing that if you were to wake him, to shake him by his feet, because he woke up swinging. True, the article in question is only an opinion piece from a far right American Veteran (the same kind that want to build walls to separate the States and Canada), so it really holds no weight. But it really has no place on VVI.I/CSAT, because IMO, it should be trying to build up veterans issues, not tear them down. And unlike past articles and evidence provided by Allied countries and Canada, that members found controversial or disagreed with, this article does not reference any kind of actual research or studies to back up the opinions of the writer. All it does is cast dispersions on anyone who has been legitimately diagnosed with PTSD, which in turn could make exasperate some of the symptoms of those suffering from it. They tend to be a bit paranoid, so imagine how a PTSD sufferer could feel walking down the street, now wondering if everyone they pass now thinks that they are faking it, because they read the article. We have thousands of Veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD, and yes, some have had run in with the law, some very serious. Yet the Americans probably have tens of thousands, or more, with the prolonged conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, and probably 300000+ active military deployed, plus private contractors like Blackwater. Not to mention the remaining Veterans from past conflicts, like Vietnam. So they are dealing with a far number more of Veterans with PTSD, and just like here in Canada, anytime a Veteran or active military member is involved, especially if they have PTSD, it suddenly becomes newsworthy. The media will report on any crime involving a veteran, that otherwise they would not, if the person was say a Mechanic or worked in retail. Thus perpetuating the idea that a lot of Veterans are using PTSD to excuse their actions, because if they weren't a Veteran with PTSD, the author wouldn't have even heard about it.
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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by johnny211 on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 11:50

bigrex - Never thought of it, but like you say some of these "Vets with PTSD crimes" you hear off, would be totally not heard of if it was a baker, or pizza guy with ptsd. We make better news because we know how to handle weapons and ourselves, and if we happen to have PTSD, well then lookout. .. VVV...
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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by Teentitan on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 12:40

I don't know if this guy who wrote this was trying to point this out as a "positive concern".

I agree with him that anything in the news nowadays wether it's veteran or civy PTSD is an excuse/reason.

That said can anyone really argue with the fact that when you hear/read this kind of situation and PTSD is the excuse/reason you don't worry that this is "diluting" the term PTSD?

This guy is not saying anything a lot of us already know....some guys do use PTSD as an out and it only casts that suspicion on vets with PTSD. Wether it is with the law or VAC.

It's a fact and we have witnessed this week with the article that 47% of CF personnel are victims of sexual abuse as a child. IMO this article is a hell of a lot more insulting then what this guy wrote. And this article is more damaging then what this guy wrote.

This guy wrote an opinion with no proof or study to back up what he said. The article of sexual abuse is from a study! And this is a study VAC/VRAB/DND will use to question/deny/release a CF/vet member.

So in a bizzaro world scenario let's look at the study on sexual abuse and use this guys article as an answer to the study.....a study like this can be answered by a soldier because they both have the same "reality check" as an asshole....everyone has one!
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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by Guest on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 13:06

Apparently the big guy and myself posted something that was not well received well that was on a canadian veterans site was giving you's a heads up as was C.J. it's out there. Suck it up soldiers don't throw shyte at the mail man for delivering the mail with bills in it the next time a check maybe in it and and the response will be the h--- with him i don't want shyte thrown at me again. It is an article from a vet who has ptsd won't admit it because he don't want to lose his right to buy a gun he is just shooting his mouth off and denying himself. the hissy fits i seen on here this morning was WTF is wrong with these guys i didn't like the article but dismissed it. It is not going to prevent people from seeking help people themselves are going to keep themselves from seeking help. DON'T MAKE PEOPLE AFRAID TO POST I SAY POST WHAT EVER YOU WANT IT MAY HELP SOMEONE IT MAY P--- SOME OFF, PERSONALLY IT IS ALL HELPING ME AND AT THE SAME TIME P---ING ME OFF.

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Post by Rifleman on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 13:21

Hissy fits ? one can post whatever the frack he wants

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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by Guest on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 13:42

rifleman give me another term for take it down or i'm quitting and i will use it.

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Post by Rifleman on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 13:51

Well wild thing I will have to think on that for a bit just smoked a bomb a little foggy right now

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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by pinger on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 13:51

And Somedays...

Opinions = Attitudes = Arseholes.
We each have all three.

Author of said article almost strikes me as a shyte-disturbing troll.
Why? It's op-ed alright.

Truth's, half-truth's, and assumptions thrown in a blender for vivid consumption.
To each their own but I ain't drinking it. Frack it.

I don't have PTSD but remember how it was "treated" 100 years ago.
Should that article have been posted? Not to me, but that's a... judgement call.

Just My Arsehole opinion...
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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by Guest on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 13:54

lol@rifleman.

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Post by Guest on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 14:00

As you's all know im not amuned to throwing my own hissy fits.

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Post by Rifleman on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 14:22

Hey wild thing how about emotional outbreak LOL now back to self medicating 😳😳😳

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Re: Latest VVi News

Post by pinger on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 14:25

lmao@wildthing

That's the understatement of the century. So so shy.
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