More than $200M unspent in veterans budget last year

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Post by Newf on Thu 17 Sep 2015, 16:44

Shame on all the managers who received bonuses for doing this to our veterans. And now Harper is bragging about how our country has a surplus. Time to vote out this bunch!
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Post by sabrelove on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 18:13

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/01/31/more-than-200m-unspent-in-veterans-budget-last-year.html

And the hits just keep coming!

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Post by Trooper on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 18:54

The 200 million is of no surprise as we all know where the previous government stood when it came to Veterans...in my opinion it was all about cost saving against Veterans with some window dressing to make it seem as though they had are back...good fracked riddance to them A..holes !!!!

I'm concerned about the Idea of having the decision to decide weather a soldier’s injury is attributable to service be made by the military itself...this would go against many medically released Veterans who find themselves in a situation where once their out...civilian physicians would have to aligned themselves with what is stated by the military...rather complete or incomplete...which in my view puts the Veteran at a disadvantage in seeking benefits.
We all know to well that a condition or conditions can worsen once released...it's far better to have the civilian medical professions take the lead in deciding this... as it is the civilians who are responsible for the Veteran after release...not the military.
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Post by teentitan on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 19:12

Yeah let's blame it on Harper. Vets from WW2, Korea passing away have nothing to do with the fact there is this amount unspent.

Pull yer head's out of yer backsides folks there are reasons for unspent money that is more then the previous gov't.
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Post by Trooper on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 19:27

Yes there is teen...but there's other places that money could have went...for one.. right back to the Veterans.

When it comes to Veterans with this past government...for the whole time they were in office...the only things they did for Veterans was to cut..take away..fight us in court..an window dress to fool the public into thinking they cared for their Veterans.

But hey..it's only my opinion teen..you know I respect yours.
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Post by Guest on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 19:55

We will see in the next month whether the trend of cutting and slashing veterans benefits continues or the new government stops and reverses it. I believe things are looking better for us, a lot better, but time will tell. There's no question that the Harper government didn't want to spend money on veterans, that's just a fact nobody can deny, and as for hiding money and cutting benefits the Harper government did it to DND just this last year , cutting or delaying major equipment purchases to give the illusion of a surplus. When the Conservative party without Harper admits that things are going to be different under a new leader they understand and lived thru the merciless oppression of the former leader and his policies! Sunny days are here again! That 200 million could have helped a lot of homeless veterans, could have provided much needed medical care and could have sponsered a heck of a lot of education! Facts never lie! Harper was bad for veterans and the country!

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Post by Guest on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 20:58

harper hmmm do you suppose he is double dipping right now drawing a prime minister pension as well as a ministers salary while he sits at home with his middle finger up towards Canadians because he is above the law. would like a complete audit done on his net worth world wide. There was once talks of taking old age security away from the well to do how about taking pensions away from the multi millionaires. Teen there is an opening for the leader of the conservative party i cannot think of a more qualified person to fill that position than you. It is your calling and an incredable opportunity for you and you should seriously consider it. 200M eh, have to add that to harpers tab will wait till next year before i crap or don't crap on the liberals.

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Post by Guest on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 21:04

Lol, wild thing! I'd like to ask Harper one question? Mr. Harper would you be willing to switch your pm pension for a veterans pension and let's see which one he chooses!

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Post by teentitan on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 21:52

I have a question for everyone......when the Conservatives took over from the Liberals in 2006 do you think the chatter was any different?

I'll tell you all right now it's the frickn' same.

Every government has screwed us over. Changed the rules. Added red tape. Created VRAB. Cut benefits.

Want to know what the difference between then and now? More capable people on the internet. More info the GoC over the last 10 years has made available on the internet for people to find.

But most of all there is a hell of a lot more veterans involved.

That said stop feckn' blaming everything on Harper. You are giving the Liberals leeway and time. You are all so stuck in the past that you are forgetting we ain't hearing jack squat about the future from PMT and Hehr!

How about this whenever you have the urge to bash what happened in the past re-focus it to pushing Hehr, Trudeau your MP.

They read these sites and chat forums and the more you live in the past you put a smile on their face. Start pushing! Write letters to the Editor, call talk radio, push your MP to get the damn ball rolling.

Oh and VAC cannot re-direct benefits/PA payments when a veteran dies. VAC cannot operate like a business. What isn't used in one area cannot be moved to another. VAC is a benefits branch of the Government. No matter how much you 'think' it should be done or can be done it can't. Because if it did then VAC is no longer a benefits branch of the gov't.

Every benefit is costed every year in VAC. If a benefit is under-costed they go to the TB to get more to fund it. This is how every benefit is accounted for when the people of Canada want to see the costs.
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Post by Guest on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 21:55

Nav his pm pension and mp salary are being split equally into two bank accounts for his kids alowances no doubt, you might say he don't need it. he is a multi millionaire and he come by it honestly don't ya know. your pay wouldn't even cover the christmas bonus for the person who wipes his arse for him. i wouldn't put it past him to have his own bathroom attendent. If he was a right honorable anything he would refuse all money being paid to him for screwing up Canada's economy and wasting tax dollars for the last decade.

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Post by Guest on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 22:04

Yes they did teen but we didn't try to defend their actions or have a lip lock on their arse. And the liberals will be held accountable and if in four years if it is the same crap there will be no lip lock as im loyal to none of them. but i will give credit where credit is due and i will also call a spade a spade if warranted.

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Post by teentitan on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 22:12

Wild thing I only have one thing to say to you with what you just accused me of kissing their ass.

Pull your damn head out of your ass, grow a pair and get some help! Your family deserves it.

Just because I am not rolling up my keyboard and hiding in the corner because the Cons lost does not give you the right to make insulting comments towards me.

I stuck my neck out there for 10 years fighting the system. Where the hell were you?
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Re: More than $200M unspent in veterans budget last year

Post by Guest on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 22:48

Suffering the hell they put me through. you stop defending their actions and throwing it in our faces, and i will stop throwing it back you have no idea how pi---- off it makes me. cannot speak for anyone else but the harper era sucked and defending him is an insult to Canadians in my opinion and im sick of hearing it you keep your defending them to yourself and i will keep from bashing them to myself deal.

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Post by teentitan on Mon 01 Feb 2016, 01:55

Oh for the love of baby Jesus where am I defending him?  I am trying to educate you on how VAC works.  Do you think this is the first time in the history of VAC there was unspent benefits?  

NO!

I spent 10 years at the table with Liberal and Conservative MVA's and I fought with everyone of them.  And guess what they fought back but they explained to me the how's and why's of VAC policies, budgeting, and process from application to federal court.  Rules that have been in place for decades.

This is the last time I'm going to say it.  Conservatives lost Liberals won.  Quit making every damn post I make a political topic.  Read it for what is said not by the person who wrote it.

You now have the Liberals back in charge of the piece of Insurance Crap they created in 2004 and introduced in 2005.  It's their turn to fix it.  And know what I hope they do fix it.  But if you keep talking about the past YOU ARE ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING!

As for being pissed off with what I wrote how do you think I feel reading what you write?  Stop using your refusal to get help as an excuse to verbally abuse me or anyone else you don't agree with.

You don't want help...you refuse to let them control you...we get it already!  Stop being abusive to me or anyone else.

I learned a hell of a lot as an advocate.  If you don't agree with the info I pass onto the forum then ignore it.  It's your choice.  But there are others who read this that might have questions.  Are you going to go after them if they ask me something?
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Re: More than $200M unspent in veterans budget last year

Post by Trooper on Mon 01 Feb 2016, 04:22

I would say that those of us who posted our opinions thus far on this particular topic are simply just voicing the way we see things in responding to the initial post.
We must respect each others opinions rather we agree or not with what each of us are saying...we are all on the same team...we should not be using our opinions to turn on each other...the way I see it is that all the post made on this topic are opinions that the poster believes is right...we should not be moving in the direction of forcing individuals to believe in what they believe...this only leads to arguments within the topic... which almost always ends with someone's feelings being hurt which never is a good thing an moves the topic in the wrong direction.
Again...don't get discouraged when you disagree with one's belief...allow that person the right to voice their beliefs in the way they believe it to be...we are all adults here surely we can disagree amongst ourselves without turning a conversation into a fighting match between each other...it is a discussion Forum...let's focus on respecting each others beliefs...let's not take away the rights of any one person to say what it is they believe...I realize it can be hard at times to hold your anger in responding...but it's the best way to respond...it allows for the conversation to continue in a civilized manner which always ends with all participants getting their points of views out without getting off track an respecting each other.
The last thing I want is for anyone to hold off on posting in fear of getting repercussion of what they wrote...I see everyone on the Forum as equals...I respect all regardless of what they believe...always keeping in mind the respect each an everyone shows for one another...we should not stray away from this type of attitude...please try to keep this in mind when anger sets in...we are all on the same team an we should all try our very best to respect one another regardless of any disagreements we may have.
Remember it's only an opinion...it's a discussion Forum where opinions are going to be made...let's allow for those opinions to be made without turning those opinions into a argumentative format.
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