News Report ~ Canadian Forces' armoured vehicle program delayed again

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News Report ~ Canadian Forces' armoured vehicle program delayed again

Post by Ex Member on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 18:58

Delivery of the Canadian military’s new armoured vehicles has been delayed once again after problems were found with the steering systems of the vehicles ordered under the $1.2-billion program.

The first of the Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicles was supposed to be delivered in 2014. But in April, the Citizen revealed that significant technical problems dogged the armoured vehicles. Department of National Defence officials said the vehicles would start being delivered early this year.

That has been pushed back again because of additional technical problems, DND confirmed Thursday. It hopes to get the first vehicle out in August.

At one time, the $1.2-billion Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle (TAPV) program was seen as a Conservative government procurement project that was proceeding smoothly.

The government announced the project in 2009 as part of its re-equipping of the Canadian Army. Canada plans to buy at least 500 new vehicles from Textron, a U.S.-based defence firm that has set up offices in Ottawa.

The TAPV program has “experienced a number of significant technical issues, particularly affecting vehicle mobility,” then-defence minister Rob Nicholson was told in August 2014. There have been problems with the suspension, steering and other items on the vehicle, according to a briefing document released under the Access to Information law.

The technical issues significantly delayed the test program, the document added. “These accumulating incidents, which relate to the vehicle’s ability to travel distances on medium cross country terrain, led the project office to conclude the existing testing could no longer continue.”

The government is purchasing the TAPV to give troops what it calls a high degree of protection and mobility on the battlefield.

Textron officials told the Citizen in late May that a new round of testing had started and was proceeding smoothly. All the previously identified problems had been dealt with, they added.

But testing had to be halted in September 2015. That was done to investigate the reliability of the steering system, said Department of National Defence spokeswoman Ashley Lemire.

The problem was solved and testing resumed last month. Testing is to be finished in May, said Lemire.

“The technical issues have been addressed by Textron Systems Canada,” she added.  “Though the government of Canada does not have present concerns, the qualification program will be completed in accordance with the contract in order to confirm that the vehicle fully meets requirements.”

Canada has an option to buy an additional 100 TAPVs. The $1.2 billion project budget also includes the building of infrastructure for the new vehicles, as well as the purchase of ammunition and service support for the equipment.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/canadian-forces-armoured-vehicle-program-delayed-again

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Re: News Report ~ Canadian Forces' armoured vehicle program delayed again

Post by Guest on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 19:39

A10 gattlin gun mounted on leopard chassis thats mobility and protection. german self propelled artillery field gun can fire multible rounds at the same target and at different elevations and all hit at the same time. what does canada buy low mobility exposed crap from US. Armourd has good tanks with the leopard they didn't fk that one up let the privates and corporals pick the best weapon not some burecrates and generals who don't know what their looking at and stuffing their pockets with kick backs at the same time.

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Post by Guest on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 19:49

Better idea! a lee enfield mounted on a fiat! Chrysler can't be beat plus 0 percent financing, save cf money!

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Post by Guest on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 21:24

lol@ nav I have a 303 jungle carbine they can have, cannot lift or take the recoil that will save some coin.

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Post by Rags on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 23:18

Its a nice replacement for a jeep.....but it is not a fighting vehicle....those have tracks. The difference between tracks and wheels is the same difference between a paint ball game and a war with a real army.

Wheels are for a poor army that has never actually come up against a real army. If your chasing kids in running shoes with a AK then wheels work I guess but if you ever want to fight a real war against a real army with tanks and artillery....ya better bring real equipment.

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Post by Guest on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 00:39

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwicgJnU7N_KAhXCVyYKHVqaDXEQtwIIWTAK&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DiseeBBnJKTE&usg=AFQjCNEXGVgHhlWofSx2Xmrd4NmpFKtfhA

True rags,One gunner to another rags two HE and two VT all landing from one gun at the same time turns one gun into four and your gone before the enemy can return fire it is an insult to not supply our soldiers with the best possible equipment for all trades sometimes less is more. 3 men for this gun 28 for 4 normal wheeled guns.

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Post by bigrex on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 08:45

I can just see this thing getting stuck in ditch or something. It might have been great during a mission in places like Afghanistan, where you are using existing roads, and the dangers that were associated with that. But as soon as they have to go off road, like through the Canadian bush, it will be useless. Plus, I wouldn't want to be the poor sap that has to leave the relative safety of the armoured cabin to change a flat tire. It wouldn't even be as bad if it had multiple sets of wheels, like the LAV, where they are multiple contact points for the wheels, and if one or two went flat, it didn't completely immobilize the thing.
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Post by Guest on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 08:58

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjy16KJ4ODKAhWISiYKHSxwCuYQtwIITTAK&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDUSE80ZFQV4&usg=AFQjCNEh5sRbYcb6ZkY_6Ts_ckzvBuzyGA

Our infantry deserve this either buy the best or design and build our own.

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Post by Guest on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 09:31

Bigrex it is a turd they want our infantry to ride around in a you might as well say a plastic turd.

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Post by Rags on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 11:42

Wild Thing, Yup thats the ticket both those pieces of great kit are German. we have the Leopard so may as well go get those as well if we cant get our shit together with our own manufacturing.

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