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Post by Rifleman on Thu 18 Feb 2016, 19:06

Spew spew spew tell us something we didn't already know the more I here the more I think this is going to take

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Post by Guest on Thu 18 Feb 2016, 19:15

Thanks for the link Sparrow ....I hear you Rifleman ....sounds like his taken it one year at a time.

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Post by jack22 on Thu 18 Feb 2016, 19:40

In my opinion it is time for the minister to take politics decisions instead of giving his ministery staff to decide the administrative way to go! Sorry folks but my hope level in falling down faster than my rhum and coke!

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Post by Guest on Thu 18 Feb 2016, 20:07

RIGHT NOT RUSHED !!!!!!

right is the PA pension that's it that's all .

you cant frack that up its impossible !!!!!

it can be done any time they fracking well want .

what fracking moronic steak holders is this guy listening to anyway the legion or any of the other mooks who thought the NVC was a great idea hoping to screw over new vets once again so they can get even more just to have lobster with their steak.

wholy frickity frack read your emails and listen to ACTUAL NVC vets about what to do about the NVC .

STOP LISTENING TO THE STEAK HOLDERS!!!

START LISTENING TO THE BOLOGNA HOLDERS !!!!

GET IT DONE!!!

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Post by Teentitan on Thu 18 Feb 2016, 21:09

Last week, Hehr ordered his department to establish a new priorities secretariat that will focus on three key issues — homelessness, support for veterans’ families, and support for those transitioning to civilian careers.

This is the person that holds the power for future STAKE Holders meetings. Only problem is the meetings will be about the 3 topics only. This guy has to produce results for Hehr and the rest of the Liberal Ministers involved with the homeless issue.

One other very important statement made by the Hehr on the link posted by Sparrow...
Based on MVA Hehr's comments in this interview he suggests that Veterans will be in a better position in 4 years then they are now so that leads me to think that we are early days yet in getting the results we are seeking.

This can be interpretted two ways:
1. Yes he wants to make sure to do it right
2. Another campaign promise in 2019.

Like jack22 said Hehr is good at DND....deligate n' disappear! This is not good. The bureaucrats have the reigns and is driving the wagon in the direction they want. Blackburn and Blaney did this and they had very little impact on the department.

This is what happens when the VAC Minister has two portfolio's the eye for detail falls by the wayside.
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Post by Dannypaj on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 06:02

Every single Veteran I know is either scared of Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC) or can not seem to get a straight answer without "the run around", it is truly a sin.  
My heart bleeds every day for all of us dealing with VAC.
The childish games politicians play, keeping in mind it is played with the minds of the "brave" men and women of Canada, it is an absolute disgrace.
How does a government govern knowing that they are squashing peoples quality of life and adding stress to misery.  
"I want to get it right", well when will this happen?
Is this the way it was envisioned to unfold once JT was elected? For some "yes" and for some "no".  
I for one shake my head and think to myself  "no way!"  I did not vote for you to fly in 50000 people into Canada,  I voted for you to help CANADA'S VETERANS

So BY THE LEFT QUICK MARCH ! ! !  Please get it done ! the sooner the better..lol, some of my older Veteran friends are in rough shape.
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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 07:09

Well to me it seems we are a low priority, it is so easy to say yes were bringing back the PA. Nothing mention on ELB either. This budget is going to give us nothing but more Refugees that is where the money will be spent. I don't know why serving soldiers with 5 years or less are not putting in their releases by the thousands. These would be considered the commoners with brawn no brains. They must see the GOC will not take care of them if injured, but don't mind sending them into harms way to the hell holes of the world without proper protection. Then bringing them home to battle civi life without proper financial security. If i could give them one day of my suffering there would be a mass exodus from the military. And the government would have this fixed in a week. They have one year to fix it and give us back the PA or i will never step foot into another polling station as i don't like stepping in dog schitt. There is no HONOR in our governments only waste, lies, ignorance and a pure lack of common decency, are these morons born like this or do they learn it threw education maybe there should be a study on that. Well their not dragging me back into that dark pit. It is time for the serving members to step to the plate rally and put in there release papers in unison the world is not a scary place when your healthy and there are a multitude of oportunities for those who leave their brawn behind and use their brains. We can battle this on parliment hill we can battle this in court but the only ones who can win the war is still serving soldiers they have the power to end this war right know in my opinion that is the only thing that will work and it is to their advantage to do so. There is no honor in serving your country just misery in my opinion.

Propat buddy how about sharing that bologna sandwich.


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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 07:12

Here's the thing with our MVA...like I have said all along he is a decent person with very good intentions but jack is exactly right !
He needs to take command of his promises...he cannot an should not just pass it down to his staff an wait for the results.
He needs to set timelines an needs to direct this ( Directly ) to his staff.

We hear on CSAT know the ins and outs of what these promises mean...we understand the system of getting these implemented...we understand the mindset of both the MVA an the bureaucrats involved in getting this done.
It's not going to wash without backlash from Veterans groups.

When the Liberals were campaigning for the election they went out to seek what it was that Veterans wanted...they used this info in setting out their promises to Veterans.
However...there's one problem here...the Liberals had no first hand knowledge as to what it was.... they have promised.
That is why your seeing everything passed down to the bureaucrats...in the mind of the MVA the bureaucrats are the experts on this an it looks like he has given them the promises to implement the way in which they see fit.

The bureaucrats are not going to rush anything through...they want their work to last over the four years...they will implement things in this fashion keeping enough work in place to satisfy their own selves...this has always been the way they operate...their very good at stating how complex things are.

I don't mean to sound negative here...but like I have been saying all along...there's a new approach in how benefits are being implemented to Veterans by our government...they may well say it's one Veteran - one standard...but it's in no way shape or form one Veteran - one standard.
The old pension act meant one Veteran - one standard...this NVC style of benefits is meant to brake apart the one Veteran - one standard approach an takes away the across the board fairness to all Veterans post 2006.
It is simply a nightmare that will not go away...the Minister has the power today to fix this right if he wanted too...but he has not showed that he wants to take this route...this new approach that I speak of is echoed throughout the bureaucrats that are now in charge of finding ways to implement those promises...it is simply a circus of bureaucrats trying to figure out a way to implement things using this approach... at the same time trying to implement them in a way that looks good enough to please the Veteran community.
We all saw this with the Conservatives last year when they implemented those benefits.

Again...I'm not impressed with the way things are going with respect to how our MVA is handling our file an his staff...every time he speaks...he shows lack of leadership as our Minister.
Veterans don't want to wait four years for what was promised...they want those promises implemented an if the MVA cannot take command of this...perhaps someone else should be appointed his position...not two positions...one position as Minister of Veterans Affairs.

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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 07:25

Trooper he has to be involved in both sides of the fence to do it right. The problem is he is not involved in either just photo op's a fkn figure head.

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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 09:13

Energizer Bunny is too busy with his Twitter and Facebook accounts.

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Post by jack22 on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 09:43

Today I would like to clarify what I wrote yesterday. The Minister is at command. I grant him the responsibilities of Minister of veterans were all new for him during his swearing-in, but that it more or less four months ago. I think that the Department of Veterans Affairs is a minor Department within the Government of the Canada.
Minister's mandate is SIMPLE. Insofar as the impact of its implementation at the national level are not controversial. Compared to large departments such as industry and commerce, transportation, public safety, defence etc. found them echo from one ocean to another. When I think it seems to me that a platoon of a Junior Leader Course or Senior Leader Course could make a viable plan of the departmental mandate in a week.
The seat of the frustration for me is much more in the lack of communication with us, the veterans that implementation of the promises as such.
Minister we veterans agreed to serve our country. We have put our quality of life, our physical and mental integrity in the balance without forgetting the impacts on our spouses and our children. As our commitment was without reservation, despite the danger we went on a mission in different theatre of operations military abroad and home here in the country.
It seems to me that the minimum of the minimum that is due is respect. And in my opinion the best way to respect is to fulfill your promise or at least keep us informed of the progress of the files linked to expectations that are your departmental mandate.
More information equals less anxiety, less depressive feelings, less anger and possibly less prescription medication and alternative medicine like alcool.

Byby now i am going to get more medecation

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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:11

hey wildthing no probs you can have half .

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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:12

startin to look like another government that needs to be tossed to the curb .

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Post by czerv on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 11:26

Just have to make sure that they do not get more than 6? years for their gov pensions

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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Feb 2016, 20:45

I want the proper transition to stop the homeless parade and suicides in it's tracks not now but right now.
I also want the homeless to have housing and addictions taken care of and given ELB to those capable of managing their own finances. This is going to be a long drawn out process as it is going to involve social workers outside of vac to assist with normal day to day living and finances some may not be able to be helped so they should be considered for the long term care facilities vac now operates for ww2 vet's.
As for the rest of us they know what is lacking just fix it already...

Just a stupid commoner's assessment on the situation HON Kent king Hehr.

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