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Moncton legion unveils new bus design to meet veterans’ needs

Post by Trooper on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 18:47

Moncton legion unveils new bus design to meet veterans’ needs



CTV Atlantic
Published Saturday, January 14, 2017 7:16PM AST

A new sense of freedom is being felt by many Moncton veterans who are no longer able to live on their own.

A local legion has unveiled a new bus designed to meet the unique needs of its passengers, which will help the vets get out and enjoy the country they helped protect.

“They are so ecstatic about this,” said veteran Keith Brewer. “They can't put it into words.”

The transport bus is completely at their disposal, and meets needs that other vans can't.

“Back up camera, a chairlift that is automatic with all the modern safety features, we got the extra strength straps to hold wheelchairs in place,” Brewer said.

The veterans previously relied on a 17-year-old bus that is very much at the end of its road. With a rusting undercarriage, increasing repairbills, and no stereo, the local legion decided to fight for a change.

“I think they are proud to have it,” said bus committee chairman Art Cuthbertson. “It'll give the veterans a ride in style and comfort.”

Veteran’s Health Centre nurse manager Isabelle Martin says the bus will be inspected twice a year, as it is a standard form of transportation.

“We had to inspect it more, which means more repairs, more things to replace, so it was getting to be a little much at the end,” Martin said.

Over the past eight months, they were able to raise more than $100,000 for the new bus, with donations coming from around the Maritimes and as far away as Europe.

Brewer says it makes all the difference in the lives of those who fought for Canada long ago.

“These are World War II and Korean veterans, and we needed them then when they fought the wars, so they need us now,” he said.

“They go apple picking, they go fishing sometimes, it's about getting out and being able to live rather than just being able to sit there and exist where you are,” said Martin.

The veterans say there's no better way for them to kick off Canada 150 than with this gift to their own. And with a couple thousand surplus dollars, they hope this won't be the only gesture they can extend in 2017.

http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/moncton-legion-unveils-new-bus-design-to-meet-veterans-needs-1.3241468

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Canadian Legion bans 90-year-old veteran for promoting music nights at another club

Post by Trooper on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 06:47

Canadian Legion bans 90-year-old veteran for promoting music nights at another club


Jane Sims, The London Free Press, Postmedia News
February 14, 2017 8:51 PM ET


Second World War veteran Bob Hanson was kicked out of a legion in London, Ont.: "I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.”

LONDON, Ont. — It was a long, humiliating ride home in a London police cruiser for Second World War veteran Bob Hanson.

For 70 of the sailor’s 90 years, he’s been heading off to local Royal Canadian Legion branches to meet up with his buddies, swap war stories, listen to music and dance.

But last November, Hanson was banned for 180 days — a long time when you’re 90 — from the Legion’s Victory branch 317 in London for breaking its rules.

His infraction? Handing out business card-sized flyers of a country music band schedule he’d set up at another London club.

The events were scheduled at the same time the legion had its own music nights. Apparently, that was serious enough to ban a man who faced down the enemy in the North Atlantic and helped secure the freedoms Canadians have today.

Then it got worse. After he was banned for band promotion, and lost an appeal, Hanson headed down to the legion on a Saturday night, the usual country music night, wanting to talk to one of the legion’s executive.

Second World War veteran Bob Hanson, 90, shows his medals

Instead, the bar steward said he was trespassing and called the police. Everyone saw it. Even the police officer, Hanson said, “was disgusted.”

“I was exercising my rights. I didn’t think I was doing anything wrong,” he said in an interview.

“I’m not looking for sympathy. They just ruined my reputation,” he said.

And so, the recently widowed veteran of the Royal Canadian Navy was unceremoniously escorted home in a cop car to his senior’s apartment.

“The situation as to why he was banned had to do with clubhouse rules and conduct,” said Brian Harris, the executive member who handled the discipline. “And being a military man, I would have thought Bob would understand that.” But there’s more to the tale than just rule-breaking.

It’s about a fading older generation, entrenched in tradition and community work, at odds with new-fangled ideas.

And you have to know a little bit more about Hanson. Some would call him spunky; others, feisty. Everyone would say he holds strong opinions.

There are things about the way the legion is run that he doesn’t like. In protest, he stopped paying a membership.

Probably the only thing close to criminal he’s ever done is to lie about his age to sign up with the navy at 17 to serve in the war. He was a gunner on the destroyer HMCS Restigouche (nicknamed Rusty Guts) out of Halifax and made several treacherous trips in the North Sea.

In 1946, he and a buddy went to the Palais Royale in Toronto for “dime-a-dance” night where he met his wife, Lorraine. He can tell you what she wore. Their first dance was to the song Near You.

“She was a fabulous dancer,” he said.

Hanson was no slouch either, picking up prizes over the years at jitterbug competitions. He was also a reigning limbo champ.

He worked for Bell Telephone and took university courses to become a communications engineer in Toronto. After he retired, he and Lorraine moved to London in 1999 to be closer to some family. They moved to a seniors’ apartment building a year ago.

Lorraine died last May after an illness. Hanson’s eyes well up just mentioning her name.

He may be 90, but he’s got a lot of fight in him.

Music always played in the background of their lives. He and Lorraine went out dancing practically every week. Their favourite was old country music, not the modern-day rock-and-roll stuff, but “the kind you can dance to.” Even Elvis is a little too racy for Hanson.

On Saturday nights, they’d go to the Victory branch for the weekly country dance. They got to know the bands and would follow them to other venues like Purple Hill, east of the city.

Hanson got in trouble with the executive some time ago when he put up Purple Hill’s schedule on the legion’s bulletin board. He said he agreed he did wrong and took it down.

But, when word came last summer that the country music night format was being changed to tribute bands and modern music, Hanson decided he’d help the bands he and his friends loved find a new place to play. And he insists he was transparent with the legion bar steward about what he was up to.

“The gang that loved the old classic country were getting disappointed and they wouldn’t come out,” he said.

Hanson secured a spot at the Marconi Club in London. He drew up some small flyers to hand out to his friends. He told them to put them in their pockets and not to leave them out at the legion.

The bar steward, Hanson said, found a couple left on the tables. Hanson was reported to the executive, then told not to come back for six months.

So, Hanson wrote a letter to the legion’s Ontario Command and to the newspaper.

The legion’s executive insists this isn’t Hanson’s first trip to the brig, and that he’s run afoul of other veterans’ organizations (something Hanson denies). The branch president, Nellie Stevens, said Hanson has been “creating a problem” and they have “quite a file on him.”

Harris said Hanson has been given “several warnings and interviews and letters and what-not” over the years. This time, Harris asked for an apology. Hanson refused.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-legion-bans-90-year-old-veteran-for-promoting-music-nights-at-another-club
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Post by johnny211 on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 10:13

More reason this Civi organization should be disbanded. Time to open up there head office books, and payroll, so all Vets can really see what's going on..
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Post by Teentitan on Wed 15 Feb 2017, 11:50

I thought the Legion's new motto was "Be a cornerstone to your community"

So Mr. Hanson was promoting an event for the community and he gets a ride home with the cops?  If the file is so thick on Mr. Hanson then why didn't the Legion exec share some of his "incidents"?

I agree with Johnny time for this social club to open their books!
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Post by Guest on Thu 16 Feb 2017, 09:57

and this is the problem when vets organizations create rules that are more restrictive than Canadian law. its a control thing . this is why we have a status quo .

as military members and vets we have no union all we have is vets orgs such as this.

the GOC gets the orgs to sigh on to RULES when they speak with them as to control them and vets orgs have their own rules for their members to control them .

and vets themselves they just have to fight through the quagmire of all of all of this BS with there hands tied behind their backs .

ya it starts innocently enough at first with organizational stuff , one speaker at a time for so long one issue at a time an so forth , ya know a few lines of rule . now your on that slippery slope . then a whole page then a chapter then a whole book of rules .

all to protect those at the top and the vets themselves just got to sit down and suck it .

while those at the top realize that its only their own opinion that these rules are good ones they don't care about vets at all and just keep pushing and in fact forcing their opinions on vets by creating these rules and frack the vets .

and we end up here when those in power don't like what a vet is doing good or bad they get rid of him , I'm sure we can find a rule somewhere to do it if not we will just make a new one . orgs like this that make these rules simply don't give two flying fracks about vets at all .

but this one in particular well we have known that for some time but most are all the same .

in ALL instances even for relatively small instances like this vets orgs most importantly need to listen to vets . then do what they are suppose to do work for them and support them . otherwise quit and move to china where the expectation of rights and freedoms are generally low to say the least .

only two major vets orgs left that allow a real freedoms for vets . CVA and vets Canada and now vets Canada is in danger of closing as don seems to be frustrated with the lack of progress .

boys if ya can log on and give him a few words of encouragement its a great org with a huge membership , the largest out their aside from the legion and one I see rivalling the legions veteran membership in the future and again one of that last two allowing its members real freedoms .

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Post by Dannypaj on Fri 17 Feb 2017, 06:42

Wifi is now amongst us!
Arrow better communication!
Smile Connecting past, future and current serving members.
Very Happy
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Cornwall Royal Canadian Legion left lurching after 1st vice-president's false claims

Post by Trooper on Wed 22 Feb 2017, 06:13

Cornwall Royal Canadian Legion left lurching after 1st vice-president's false claims


By Todd Hambleton
Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:37:25 EST PM


Cornwall Royal Canadian Legion Branch 297 president Linda Fisher and third vice-president/membership chairman Ron Racine, dealing with the fallout on Tuesday, Feb. 21, 2017, of the resignation of first vice-president Arthur Murray, who has apologized for untrue claims of military service.

The Royal Canadian Legion Branch 297 in Cornwall has had its first vice-president resign, amid allegations of — and his apology for — untrue claims of military service and successes.

Arthur Murray, a 14-year member of the Legion who was elected to the first vice-president position last June, handed in his resignation to president Linda Fisher.

“We knew nothing (about the misrepresentation), this was such a shock,” Fisher said Tuesday.

Stolen Valour Canada, an all-veteran, all-volunteer organization aiming to expose imposters posing as military personnel or veterans, levelled allegations against Murray, who was also the cadet liason. The organization has posted what it says is a written apology from Murray.

The story has been told on the U.S. website “This Ain’t Hell – But you can see it from here.”

The website said the story came to it from Stolen Valour Canada, when the organization was asked to comment upon photographic images of Murray, of Cornwall, attending Remembrance Day services in the city.

Stolen Valour Canada said among Murray’s claims was that he was an artilleryman in the Canadian Forces, was a qualified CF parachutist, served in the Canadian Airborne Regiment Battle Group, served with 2 RHCA in Cyprus and received the Canadian Peace Keeping Service and UNFICYP medals.

But, Stolen Valour Canada says, Murray did not complete Canadian Forces recruit training, had fewer than two months of regular force service, was not an artilleryman, never qualified as a CF parachutist, never served in E Bty (Para) 2 RCHA, was never a member of the Canadian Airborne Regiment Battle Group and never served in Cyprus.

“My first feeling when hearing about this was disbelief,” said Ron Racine, the Legion’s third vice-president and its membership chairman. “He (Murray) knows a lot of military information, so I was really in shock when I found out everything there (on the website) was true, I couldn’t believe it.”

Murray was a Legion member for 14 years, which made the news even more difficult to accept.

“It’s hard because it’s like a family here,” said Racine, confirming Murray has also turned in his membership.

Racine noted that Murray was accepted as a Legion member because “he had been in the military – he had proof of that. Because of that background, he could become a member. (But) we don’t ask for full military background.”

The issue is settled, as far as Fisher is concerned.

“For our part, we’ve resolved it because he’s no longer a member, he’s no longer first vice-president,” she said.

An apology from Murray, posted on the This Ain’t Hell blog, reads as follows:

“I am hereby offering my heartfelt apologies for my actions, and I realize that what I did was wrong, and can offer no real reason as to why I did it. I am prepared to suffer the consequences of my actions, and will plead guilty to any charges that are brought against me by the courts.

“The sins I have committed are grievous, and I most certainly did not mean to cause or bring harm to anyone, although I have done harm to myself with my actions.”

The site also reported that information from Stolen Valour Canada indicates Murray has surrendered the bogus medals and insignia to an SVC representative.

Stolen Valour Canada said it had conducted a thorough review of all available records including websites, newspaper articles, photographic images, regimental journals and tour groups, searchable data bases of medal recipients and extracts from military documents in Canada to determine the legitimacy of Murray’s claims.

The Criminal Code of Canada has Sec. 419 on the Unlawful Use of Military Uniforms or Certificates, a punishable offence on summary conviction.

Stolen Valour Canada says the organization’s actions reduces the number of posers, and perhaps makes individuals think twice before falsifying military service.

http://www.standard-freeholder.com/2017/02/21/cornwall-royal-canadian-legion-left-lurching-after-1st-vice-presidents-false-claims
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Post by Guest on Wed 22 Feb 2017, 10:30

outstanding , great work SVC . you guys rock.

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Post by Dannypaj on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 05:30

Hence a standardized veteran's ID card.
Aren't we tired of hearing about Stolen Valour?
It is ridiculous of how often we hear about someone's great war storey and later find out that they never served a minute in their life.
Many more benefits with a standardized VETERAN's ID card!


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Post by Artie Simm on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 08:59

Dannypaj wrote:Hence a standardized veteran's ID card.
Aren't we tired of hearing about Stolen Valour?
It is ridiculous of how often we hear about someone's great war storey and later find out that they never served a minute in their life.
Many more benefits with a standardized VETERAN's ID card!


But like every other lie these guys tell it will be "I lost my card" I miss placed it", It was lost when my home burned to the ground"...Every time I see one of these Poser stories I half blame the organizations they join or the people the buy into their bullshit. All you have to do is google the name of any "veteran" who says he was wounded overseas and their name will pop up. the Canadian Army isn`t huge, there is always a story from a major newspaper or local rag, about the hometown hero.
And these guys on Facebook cropping photos etc. just look at their nominal role of friends or post their name to a military site, if no true soldier is a friend of theirs or ever heard about them, then they are just pond scum- anyone who served in the armed forces knows atleast a 100 other soldiers (even if they didn`t like them). Worse still are the family members/wives...husbands? who know their spouse is lying and yet attend functions clinging to their arm, they are just as big douche bags.
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Post by Teentitan on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 11:01

Wonder if he had veteran licence plates? Afterall isn't the Legion getting $5 per plate to verify a person is a veteran?

He was a first vice-president so he should of had it. If he did have a vet licence plate then the $5 per is what I always said it is....a scam for the Legion to get money!

I refuse to give $5 to an organization that thinks they own the copyright of the poppy and have the gall to make money on a sacred symbol to ALL real veterans.
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Post by Trooper on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 15:06

This is one individual who got caught, how many more are saying they are Veterans and never served a day in their life?

Any organization that fails to provide expenses when asked has something to hide, one word comes to mind, corruption.
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Post by bosn181 on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 23:31

its hard to put in the right words but i went to the remembrance day parade last year for first time in to many years.  as i was making my way to be able to stand with my peers from the osis group and watch other friends that took part in parade to honour those that gave all, i was stopped and told that this area was for vets.  i was a little shocked being a vet and it took a lot to get myself to attend normally i just honour them in my own way at home.  as i was standing there i noticed many vets and was good to see them there but as well i noticed many that had only legion metals on and standing in an area that i was told was for vets i did not say anything and eventually the person that stopped me seen me waving to my osis peers and asked if i was a vet and why i did not say something. i told them i did not want to make a big deal of it seeing it was not the place or time i was only there to show my support. but it did get my mind wondering why if this area was set aside for vets, were there so many that had just the legion uniform on and legion metals and no signs of military service also standing in this group if they had no metals and i was judging them wrongfully then i am sorry but if what i was thinking was correct then they were there as civi's in a now known as civi social club in an area for vets kind of misrepresenting.  i had a few non military friends and family ask me how was the parade and i told them i only wish that if a civi legion person wanted to attend the parade that they please don't put on that uniform that day and misrepresent seeing so many civi's don't know the difference between which ones are military and which ones are just wearing the social club uniform. i hope i don't offend anyone i know there are good civi ones in the legion that do amazing work in there community.  so if you want to set up two area's fine one for vets and one for the legion for non vets.  as well so many places offer free coffee or meals that day and if they had to show a proper id card then those that are civi would not just show up show a legion card and take advantage of these things put out for vets instead of just showing a legion card that has mainly become civi social club.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 08:48

bosn I'm sure not offended .remembrance day is hard it really is . full of posers right down to the politicians offering their great words in honor of vets and the fallen on that day after spending the year prior fracking over those very same people . a lot of things on this day are fake , a big show , and the very well meaning civies that go don't have any idea .

the big day set aside to honor the fallen and our vets is the one day of the year I see them dishonored most of all . ya show up dressed like a civi ya get treated like one no questions asked . witch is fine by me . ya show up wearing a legion blazer ya get treated like a vet no questions asked .

SVC is doing some great work but what they cant stamp out is the type of stolen valor that has already become institutionalized .

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Post by bosn181 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 09:00

"propat" you found the words that i was saying hart to find the right words so ty your understanding exactly what i am thinking and just could not find the way to type it

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