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Post by Ex Member on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 22:05

Congratulations Sapper. Happy for you.

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Post by pinger on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 22:41

Likewise Sap. Thumbs up at ya !
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Trooper on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 13:38

There's no mention of the word supplement , wondering if they will continue the supplement as per chart an call it the CIAS or will it be embedded into the CIA - or is it discontinued altogether.

In the BILL they say change the PIA TO CIA , but they don't mentioned anything about changing the PIAS to CIAS.

Perhaps it's nothing to worry about but would still like clarification on this.
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Post by bigrex on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 13:55

the PIAS will continue, and will likely be called the CIAS.

Bill C-12 replaces;

The Minister may, on application, increase the permanent impairment allowance that may be paid under subsection (2) by the amount set out in item 2.1, column 2, of Schedule 2, if the Minister determines that the veteran is totally and permanently incapacitated.

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(3) The Minister may, on application, increase the career impact allowance that may be paid under subsection (2) by the amount set out in item 2.‍1, column 2, of Schedule 2, if the Minister determines that the veteran has a diminished earning capacity.


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ALLOWANCES AND BENEFITS
Column 1                                                                                                                Column 2
Item Allowance or Benefit                                                                                                Amount ($)
1 Minimum permanent impairment allowance                                                                6,000.00 (yearly)
2 Maximum permanent impairment allowance                                                                18,000.00 (yearly)
2.1 Permanent impairment allowance supplement for total and permanent incapacitation 12,000.00 (yearly)
2.2 Critical injury benefit                                                                                                70,000.00 (lump sum)
3 Death benefit                                                                                                        250,000.00 (lump sum)
4 Clothing allowance                                                                                                1,823.88 (yearly)
5 Family caregiver relief benefit                                                                                7,238.00 (yearly)
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Trooper on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:10

Rex ,

They could be referring to the different grade levels 1 , 2 and 3 from the old PIA when they mention the increase from the DEC.

The old PIAS had and amount of it's own of $1,088.90.

There's no mention of the supplement.

But you could be right they may mention it when it is written into policy CIAS.
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Post by Trooper on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:23

Rex do you mean ? 2 = PIA 2.1 = PIAS

2 = CIA

2.1 = CIAS
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by bigrex on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:27

Actually trooper, it does. It says "The portion of item 2.‍1 of Schedule 2 to the Act in column 1 is replaced by the following:


Career impact allowance supplement for diminished earning capacity"
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Post by bigrex on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:29

According to schedule 2, item 1 is the minimum PIA/CIA, item 2 is the maximum PIA/CIA, and item 2.1 is the supplement
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Trooper on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:33

OK Rex very good , got it.

Thanks.

I just found it odd that they didn't specify the term CIAS in the BILL when they specified the term CIA.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by bigrex on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:42

True, but I cannot find any mention of the PIAS in the NVC either, other than in schedule two. Which is weird, since you specifically have to apply for it.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Trooper on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 15:01

Looking back at the benefits as it's written ,

The PIA was short for Permanent Impairment Allowance.
There was no PIAS , it was written as the PIA supplement.

Therefore the CIA supplement will be written as just that , the CIA supplement , and not the CIAS.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 15:22

Who knows what will come about, really, but do you think anything will get easier? Something is up with these name changes, why change the name for the sake of it! Something doesn't feel right and a lot of people I have talked to seem a little nervous after this budget

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Post by pinger on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 15:35

Hey bigrex, thanks for the comparative cherry picking at 13:55. Were lucky to have you around csat, no false flattery.

What stands out to me with these changed abbreviations and words is that it's all toned down somewhat. Diminished earning capacity SOUNDS a lot different than Totally and permanently incapacitated
Hell, I used to think to be TPI one had to be a turnip, comatose, or on their fracking deathbed.

So with everything staying the same, why in blazes just the change of name??? Distancing?
Save the ink, but I don't trust GoC most days.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 15:42

I also believe nobody will get EIA anymore. Because it says anyone entitled to CIB cannot get EIA. Anybody released medically from the forces has had a career impact so everybody is entitled to CIB which means EIA is DOA which means PA is heading to the bone pile. They've killed the PA , RIP, I wonder since everybody will qualify for some CIB if the rates will be lowered to reflect the high amount expected to qualify?

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Post by Ex Member on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 15:46

Why do I feel like it is the calm before the storm? So many changes.

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