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Post by Guest on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 12:55

"Non-compliance"

(2) If a veteran who is required by the Minister to undergo a medical examination or an assessment fails without reasonable excuse to do so, the Minister may cancel the career impact allowance.

"Ineligibility" — career impact allowance

(1.‍1) A member of the forces who is eligible for a career impact allowance under the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act is not eligible to be awarded an exceptional incapacity allowance.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Thu 24 Mar 2016, 08:25

yup that's what I said earlier trooper but we will have to see what comes out in the wash to be certain .

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Thu 24 Mar 2016, 04:00

That could be one of the reasons behind the name change - or the sole reason behind the name change but the fact still remains that the promise was to " Expand access to the Permanent Impairment Allowance to better support veterans who have had their career options limited by a service-related illness or injury."
Promise number 3 from the Mandate Letter.

From what I'm reading from the Budget , apart from changing the name , "  career advancement opportunities would be considered in determining the appropriate level of financial support."

So it looks like the expansion that they are adding is going to be taking this career advancement opportunities into consideration in determining the level of financial support.

The only advantage I could see is if someone who is receiving the old PIA/PIAS at a certain level and now with this new CIA could have their level increased from the new expansion.

Also for those who are now applying for the CIA their initial grade level could be higher with this expansion compared to the old PIA/PIAS.

Congrats Sapper on your approval !

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by bigrex on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 23:06

Really? So changing the name of something that has been around for a decade, by one letter, is supposed to make things magically less complicated? EIA, EIAS, PIA, PIAS, ELB, EELB etc., is no different than EIA, EIAS, CIA, CIAS, ELB, EELB etc.

The only reason I could really see for this name change would be for optics for Joe public, so that they do not think that Veterans were double dipping by getting a life long pension based on level of disability, AND a separate life long benefit based on level of impairment.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 22:01

great to here sap good stuff .

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Teentitan on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 21:45

I called my friend and the name change from PIA to CIA and the reason the OVO suggested that PIA be named differently was because it was confusing when dealing with the many alphabet benefits of EIA, EIAS, PIA, PIAS, ELB, EELB etc.

So to help distinguish the difference for VAC adjudicators, veterans, CM's etc the Libs agreed and changed the name from PIA to CIA. And yes the CIAS is still in play.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Rifleman on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 21:42

Great news enjoy

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 21:25

Great news Sap! So the change is name only!

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Sapper Zodiak on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 21:23

CIA is the PIA...got a call this morning while in therapy. Approved level 2 PIA/CIA and adjudicating on TPI. Mixed emotions here but good news all in all.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 20:39

Too true!

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by czerv on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 18:42

Can you imagine the bs that one will have to go through to apply for this 'benefit'?
It will be harder to get it than disability. But on their papers it will look like it is 'available'.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by pinger on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 16:50

PIA come CIA is smoke teen...
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by johnny211 on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 16:33

BinRat - Ya it all makes no sense, lets put out the budget, but not tell DVA workers or Veterans the details/dates..WT.. VVV..
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by BinRat on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 15:56

Alright just got back from speaking with my CM, and she's like us, all she know's was what she had read in the papers about
what was in the Budget, and for anything else, she has no clue as to who what how why when anything is gonna be brought in

So, even VAC front line workers are in the dark on these, and or when they will come into effect

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by bigrex on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 13:03

Well, I remember there being recommendations about taking such factors such as age into account, since a severe disability will affect a person who is in their 20's more, career wise, than it would someone in their 50's. A perfect example of this is ELB. There will likely be more younger Veterans at the lower end of the ELB spectrum, because they didn't have the opportunity to rise through the ranks. So maybe the new CIA will take that into account.
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