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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:23

Rex do you mean ? 2 = PIA 2.1 = PIAS

2 = CIA

2.1 = CIAS

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 14:10

Rex ,

They could be referring to the different grade levels 1 , 2 and 3 from the old PIA when they mention the increase from the DEC.

The old PIAS had and amount of it's own of $1,088.90.

There's no mention of the supplement.

But you could be right they may mention it when it is written into policy CIAS.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by bigrex on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 13:55

the PIAS will continue, and will likely be called the CIAS.

Bill C-12 replaces;

The Minister may, on application, increase the permanent impairment allowance that may be paid under subsection (2) by the amount set out in item 2.1, column 2, of Schedule 2, if the Minister determines that the veteran is totally and permanently incapacitated.

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(3) The Minister may, on application, increase the career impact allowance that may be paid under subsection (2) by the amount set out in item 2.‍1, column 2, of Schedule 2, if the Minister determines that the veteran has a diminished earning capacity.


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ALLOWANCES AND BENEFITS
Column 1                                                                                                                Column 2
Item Allowance or Benefit                                                                                                Amount ($)
1 Minimum permanent impairment allowance                                                                6,000.00 (yearly)
2 Maximum permanent impairment allowance                                                                18,000.00 (yearly)
2.1 Permanent impairment allowance supplement for total and permanent incapacitation 12,000.00 (yearly)
2.2 Critical injury benefit                                                                                                70,000.00 (lump sum)
3 Death benefit                                                                                                        250,000.00 (lump sum)
4 Clothing allowance                                                                                                1,823.88 (yearly)
5 Family caregiver relief benefit                                                                                7,238.00 (yearly)
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 13:38

There's no mention of the word supplement , wondering if they will continue the supplement as per chart an call it the CIAS or will it be embedded into the CIA - or is it discontinued altogether.

In the BILL they say change the PIA TO CIA , but they don't mentioned anything about changing the PIAS to CIAS.

Perhaps it's nothing to worry about but would still like clarification on this.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by pinger on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 22:41

Likewise Sap. Thumbs up at ya !
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 22:05

Congratulations Sapper. Happy for you.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 19:02

Were going to have to get use to calling it the CIA because that's what it is now.

Navrat the only thing I could find was that if your on the CIA you cannot collect the EIA so I would Imagine the same goes for those on the EIA wanting the CIA.

Now with respect to your question can I give up the EIA for the CIA ?

I'm just guessing here but I suppose if you were to give up your EIA , they are not just going to transfer you to the CIA.
I would think you would have to apply for the CIA taking into consideration the Rehab application.

Don't quote me on this , it's just what I think as I could not find a reference to it.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 18:36

I get EIA but was just wondering if you wanted the pia and supp could you receive that if you gave up EIA.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 14:40

Here you go Navrat ;

Exceptional Incapacity Allowance

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1931#anchor45227



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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 14:24

Yes

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 14:21

What do you mean Navrat ?

Change from EIA to CIA ?

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Ex Member on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 13:59

What if the veteran already receives EIA ? Can he change ?

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Non-compliance

Post by Guest on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 12:55

"Non-compliance"

(2) If a veteran who is required by the Minister to undergo a medical examination or an assessment fails without reasonable excuse to do so, the Minister may cancel the career impact allowance.

"Ineligibility" — career impact allowance

(1.‍1) A member of the forces who is eligible for a career impact allowance under the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act is not eligible to be awarded an exceptional incapacity allowance.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Thu 24 Mar 2016, 08:25

yup that's what I said earlier trooper but we will have to see what comes out in the wash to be certain .

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA)

Post by Guest on Thu 24 Mar 2016, 04:00

That could be one of the reasons behind the name change - or the sole reason behind the name change but the fact still remains that the promise was to " Expand access to the Permanent Impairment Allowance to better support veterans who have had their career options limited by a service-related illness or injury."
Promise number 3 from the Mandate Letter.

From what I'm reading from the Budget , apart from changing the name , "  career advancement opportunities would be considered in determining the appropriate level of financial support."

So it looks like the expansion that they are adding is going to be taking this career advancement opportunities into consideration in determining the level of financial support.

The only advantage I could see is if someone who is receiving the old PIA/PIAS at a certain level and now with this new CIA could have their level increased from the new expansion.

Also for those who are now applying for the CIA their initial grade level could be higher with this expansion compared to the old PIA/PIAS.

Congrats Sapper on your approval !

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