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Post by Dannypaj on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 08:37

Darlene H
Darlene H I wish some people continually complaining on this site would just stop. Did you join the armed forces because you wanted to serve your country or because you expected your country and taxpayers to look after you for the rest of your lives? I grew up surrounded by veterans of WW2 in the neighbourhood, many who had serious, lifelong injuries and disabilities, and they sure did not expect this or complain that they weren't getting enough from the government.
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Al  You have no clue do you?
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Darlene H Yes I do have a clue. I grew up with a whole neighbourhood of veterans, many just as injured as all of you and just as traumatized by their experiences in wartime. I watched my dad throughout my whole life and saw him in pain many times from his injury...See More
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Al H Sunny ways.
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Ray M Darlene ... no growing up in a whole neighbourhood of veterans isn't the same as being one .... I am a 3rd generation veteran, most of those WWII vets self-medicated with alcohol and prescription drugs ... they were distant to their families for many y...See More
Al H work over 50 hrs a week.
But I know many that cannot work for a variety of reasons.
The severely wounded you never saw, as they were hidden away in DVA Hospitals. ...See More
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Linda N Darlene Hill Bolyea Maybe if the Minister was a little more engaged...and upfront about things... posters would lay off a bit?

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Darlene H Bolyea R M Whatever, I grew up in a small town and knew many of these families very well. And did you miss the part where I said my dad was a veteran, injured in February 1945, less than a month after turning 20. I have no issue with those who are inj...See More

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Darlene H Al H What difference does it

Dan Hurt

Dan Hurt What is your title in life Darlene? Mine is a medically released 3b sailor from the service. I am not a Veteran because I did not see any action nor would I wanted of, but $300 and some odd thousands, what a joke!
Darlene! It is never about the money,...

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Shane J Darelene, I'm sooo sorry our struggles in receiving proper care for our injuries has disrupted your life so much, I am so sorry that our desire to move on with our lives is such a burden on you, maybe, when you get of your high horse, you can jump to the front of the recruiting line, you know, since all we do is complain. See Darlene it's people like Dan Hurt, and myself, who sign the dotted line, who put everything on hold so we can jump on a plane and go off to some god forsaken shit hole of a country, fight for our lives, somehow survive just to come home to fight our own GOC for benefits that we were promised,and then have to read the post of some stupid waste of sperm to spew their ignorance and opinion that we,injured soldiers are somehow looking for a free hand out, and the fact that you have "freedom of speech" to do so because of soldiers and vets, doesn't even enter your tiny little mind, have a nice day you idiot.

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Shane J Darlene Hill Bolyea and for the record you fracking idiot, they were given land back then so they could provide, along with a pension and medical care, so you fool, they were taken care of before they had to crawl on their hands and knees and ask for help, why, because the GoC and Canadians were grateful for their sacrifices, today, idiots like you spew bs, which is the same approach the GoC takes therefore we have to fight for our rights, it's funny how when we fight as soldiers for your rights as Canadians it's a good thing, when we fight for our own rights, people like you call us babies or whiners instead of returning the favour of standing up for us in our time of need, selfish is what you are Darelene, a selfish pussy who won't do what we will,now carry on with your sad pathetic life

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Shane J Hey Dan, I got screenshots of all her posts, let's show the people what she thinks, I'm gonna post them on all Veteran Advocate sites, that way when she goes to spew, they can kick her arse out
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Post by teentitan on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 11:24

Well I guess the honeymoon is over eh Kent. LOL
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Post by Trooper on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 14:10

No Fracking kidding !

" I grew up surrounded by veterans of WW2 in the neighbourhood, many who had serious, lifelong injuries and disabilities, and they sure did not expect this or complain that they weren't getting enough from the government."

Why would they complain ?

They were all receiving benefits under the old pension act. (PA)

Not much to complain about when your receiving benefits from the old pension act !

That is the reason why there's so much complaining and frustration surrounding Veterans and their benefits.
Here's a wake up call , attitudes and perceptions need to change for those in government in charge of looking after their disabled Veterans.

To the person who wrote the paragraph , you need to educate yourself before making such an insulting comment towards disabled Veterans.
If you don't know what your talking about , it's best to take a step back an think before making such insulting comments.

It's funny every time someone post a negative comment towards those voicing their concerns on our Ministers Facebook , the negative post remains , but the answers to the negative post , gets deleted ?
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Post by bigrex on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 17:08

Absolutely. The government, and Canadians in general gave WWI, WWII and Korean Veterans a lot more respect than those of us of modern times. They didn't have to beg and fight in court to get benefits. My father-in-law only served three years, but because that time was spent in Korea, even though it was following the war, he was given a 100% pension when he developed arthritis in his spine. He was still healthy enough to open his own garage, and then work as a cleaner, until he finally retired at 65.
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Post by nemo on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 17:50

After reading the one soldier's reply in the blurb about that he is not a veteran, that made my blood boil a wee bit. He is a veteran. Why is it in Canada that even military members don't want to call themselves a veteran? I would say most of that comes from the Legion who never really welcomed people after WW2 or the Korean war. You hear veteran firefighter...veteran police officer all the time and no one bats an eye. But serve 20 years and call yourself a military veteran and many people including the member will say they are not one. Of course they are one. I served nearly two decades. I served 5 years in Germany. I served seven months in Croatia on Op Harmony 2. So I am a military veteran. I am a peacekeeping veteran. I am a Cold War veteran. I don't call myself a war veteran as I was not in Afghan. But I can tell ya that I still know what war is like. In Croatia, during the Battle of Medak Pocket, there was one day when more than 6000 shells landed in our area. If that isn't war, I don't know what is. So hold your heads up high brothers and sisters. You are veterans. Soldiers that serve even short times in the US get a helluva lot more respect there than long serving members ever will get here.

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Post by Trooper on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 19:12

nemo your correct but I think a lot of Veterans don't know themselves that they are classified as a Veteran.

That is why I posted the following info awhile back in the VAC Benefits Category ;

Definition of a Veteran
Any former member of the Canadian Armed Forces who successfully underwent basic training and is honourably discharged.

When people think of Veterans, many immediately picture someone who served in the First World War, Second World War or the Korean War. While many Canadians recognize these traditional Veterans, the same may not always be true for Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) Veterans—those who served Canada since the Korean War.

In fact, some former CAF members don’t even see themselves as Veterans. Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC) wants to change this and is working to ensure CAF Veterans receive the honour and recognition they have earned and so richly deserve.

VAC considers any former member of the Canadian Armed Forces who releases with an honourable discharge and who successfully underwent basic training to be a Veteran.

This Veteran status recognizes the risk CAF members assume by wearing the uniform and pledging allegiance. Canada’s modern-day Veterans are carrying on the traditions, values and legacy of wartime Veterans and all Canadians, especially our youth, should be aware of their accomplishments and sacrifices.

Please note that other criteria, in addition to Veteran status, are needed to qualify for services from the Department.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/mandate#defn
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Post by Guest on Fri 01 Apr 2016, 09:25

The individual in question was on ODSP a very abused disability pension here in Ontario in my opinion. there are people on it with no physical disability that can work mixing morter or caring concrete block that are a little bit slow but not to bad capable of manual labour but refuse to work even though they can and would make more money doing so. This lady may be legit in which case she should have been directing her comments to the Ontario priemer to clean up the system so more money was available for those in real need. I was not mentally not able to comment on her post at the time or I would of set her straight. She made us look bad but there was nothing i could do at the time.

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Post by RobbieRoyal on Tue 05 Apr 2016, 18:33

This is just so sad, and if one moron is that disillusioned about today's soldiering then now you know why our leaders find it hard to give credence to the overall health and welfare of you and I.
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Post by Dannypaj on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 07:00

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/veterans-affairs-offices-could-reopen-within-year-1.3523403

Another example of an individual who wants to help Veterans. BZ

"That is a long time, a year. It should open tomorrow," he said. "You shouldn't be waiting that long to ask questions. It's better than nothing, but it could be a whole lot better." SO TRUE!
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Post by Dannypaj on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 07:05

I fight for my children's  future. I didn't really accomplish what I wanted to when I signed the dotted line, but the dotted line is just that, a dotted line.
My future isn't about that dotted line, it is about recovering and being functional for my family.
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More stuff from our Minister's Facebook today !

Post by Trooper on Sun 10 Apr 2016, 16:16

Are veterans happy with you, the department, or the government?

Kent Hehr

After the next four years of implementing our commitments and working to do good by veterans, I am sure that our veterans will be in better stead than in the previous ten.

KH

Kent the GoC has been pissing around for 10 years now and that includes all parties. 4 more years is not except able you should have done it in the budget that you just brought down. Has far as I can see your just like all the rest your only interested in staying in all enough to to get YOUR big fat pension and will just drag your feet and in the end do squat for the Vets. You and your party promised to get the pensions back and you did not you failed and failed hard any thing you say now is just smoke being blown up butts

Kent Hehr , veterans were made certain promises, from November to the end of March, you were repeatedly asked about these promises and to provide details.

You kept telling to wait and see. Well the budget came out, and it lacks a lot of detail about who's eligible for what, and further more we have to wait 5 years not 4 years, to see what will complete this plan.

I have gone through the budget over and over again, not being a lawyer, I still fail to see how it benefits me or any other veteran or even comes close to meeting what was promised.

How much many more veterans are going to lose their homes, families, and lives, while you continue to fail us?

One thing that really pisses me off is that you knew right from the beginning that you and your department could not meet the promise of the return of life long pensions, but you refused to admit it and refused to provide any details of it until the budget was released, you baited everyone with statements of wait and see.

What a waste, thought he had a chance being disabled. Thought he would understand , but just another fiberal. I waited. You told me on the phone wait for the budget I was nice. Now well I have lost all respect for you. Why can't anybody provide a new chart for this chump sum payment, why isn't there a table for this new pia ? Where is it been almost a month. Keep up with what you do best. Disappointing vets.

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Post by Guest on Mon 11 Apr 2016, 16:37

There is a growing backlash on MVA Hehr's facebook page and although I understand why there is such frustration and anger coming from Veterans, I can't abide by the vulgarity and profanity that is being posted on the MVA's page which reflects on all Veterans.

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Post by teentitan on Mon 11 Apr 2016, 16:42

Sparrow I too agree with what you said but eventually it will sink in with him that he needs to come out have a press conference and UPDATE veterans.

Until he speaks vets are only going to get angrier and angreir until it explodes in the press.

He is creating his own problems and by the looks of it he is ignoring the obvious solution.
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Post by Guest on Mon 11 Apr 2016, 16:56

I agree with you Teen, MVA Hehr does appear to have his head in the sand and is avoiding dealing with Veterans anger and questions.

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Post by Trooper on Mon 11 Apr 2016, 16:58

I agree ,

I have said that from the beginning , he passed everything down without taking command of those he passed his mandate promises  too.

This is going to come back and bite him hard !

He is talking about everything but his actual duties , if his not willing to learn the file properly , command the duties passed down with timelines and not pushing out public progress reports , he is going to regret it.

Veterans are fed up with this type of lack of command and lack of transparency on our file , that is the main reason behind the backlash.

He means well but fails at leadership skills.

In today's world when it comes to promises made to Veterans , you better get your facts straight , you better learn quickly the file , and you better not leave Veterans in the dark , or you will get plenty of backlash , and this is just the beginning.
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