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Post by Rustytheviking on Sun 16 Jul 2017, 11:35

Thanks. In the end it wasn't even a fight, I actually beat vac in one battle. Now if only that carried through on every other fight I have coming up.

And thanks to all the help this site has given me.

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Post by pinger on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 18:15

You got the supp! Happy for you Rusty !
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Post by bigrex on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 18:14

Rusty, I would request an appeal of the CIA decision, based on the new criteria.
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Post by Rustytheviking on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 13:43

At least if your dec you get the suppliment. They need to sort the CIA levels, but they like their chaos.

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Post by Vet1234 on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 12:50

Ffs the policy is so grey.
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Post by Rustytheviking on Fri 14 Jul 2017, 12:49

My dec is all finished. I get the supplement but my CIA stays at level 3. I had 8 years served and was 3b'd under the nvc. I'm also permanently disabled. Just an FYI for people in regards to the CIA scaling with the time served etc

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Post by pinger on Wed 05 Jul 2017, 22:10

Artie ... "how is it going?" no pun on your cm's quote.

But hey, feel free to pm me if I might be able to help ya.
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Post by Vet1234 on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 22:00

Amen. I'm on my third CM and this forum has helped me much more than any CM I've had.
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Post by Artie Simm on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 21:24

pinger wrote:Artie, bear with me as my memory is shot. Don't recall where you are in VaC's stuff.
But there is a very logical and methodical approach to their shyte.

Sincerely no offence, but imo you may be tap dancing around VaC's alphabets of benefits.
Someone could ask questions forever, but eventually they have to actually DO something.

Years back, my best cm was Johnny Walker Red (not recommended). What helped better was support of really tight people, in person, that gave my approach to VaC a reality check.

VaC cm's, BPA's, Legion service officers may be a crap shoot, but don't discount them either.
I`ve had 2 CM`s in 12 years, I saw one only once, the other twice, they never tell me about any of these programs, they just call every few months and say "how is it going?" I`m only learning about all these benefit opportunities through this site.
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Post by BinRat on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 21:11

It's Actually Not the Case Manager who approves you to be DEC.

What will happen the CM will gather information be it from Family Dr. Pyscologist, Etc Etc.

Then the Case manager will place it on the Schedule to be reviewed by the VAC"s Office Interdisciplinary group meeting
your CM will like the BPA, present your case like I have John Doe, his condition(s) are as followed, we have tried, this this this, and this, and have failed and it still will not bring my client John Doe up to suitably gainfully employment, to make 662/3rd of there pre-release (adjusted) salary,therefore I am looking at Moving John Doe to the DEC.

then the team of VAC nurses, Doctors, supervisors or whoever is part of this interdisciplinary team, review it and either, agree to make you DEC or not.

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Post by pinger on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 20:28

Artie, bear with me as my memory is shot. Don't recall where you are in VaC's stuff.
But there is a very logical and methodical approach to their shyte.

Sincerely no offence, but imo you may be tap dancing around VaC's alphabets of benefits.
Someone could ask questions forever, but eventually they have to actually DO something.

Years back, my best cm was Johnny Walker Red (not recommended). What helped better was support of really tight people, in person, that gave my approach to VaC a reality check.

VaC cm's, BPA's, Legion service officers may be a crap shoot, but don't discount them either.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Artie Simm on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 16:44

can a vet`s own personal CM be reached through the MyVAC account?
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Guest on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 16:40

Artie Simm wrote: I don`t have a problem telling them how it is, I took Mefloquine because the Army told me I had to and that screwed me up, I`m not taking anything any other medication VAC recommends through a psychologist. Can I not forward all the information to my CM and say open a DEC claim then?

Exactly, contact your CM and request they start the process for determining you DEC.

Some are a little slow and may give you some BS, pay no attention to that, tell them you feel you meet the criteria for DEC and you were told that Case Managers are in place to support the Veteran, and support the request of the Veteran.
You may get lucky and get the support right away, if not, don't feel bad as it happens to many. Be persistent.
Case Managers are suppose to know what evidence to ask for.

It's one of those things where you never know until you apply.

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Post by Artie Simm on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 15:59

I don`t have a problem telling them how it is, I took Mefloquine because the Army told me I had to and that screwed me up, I`m not taking anything any other medication VAC recommends through a psychologist. Can I not forward all the information to my CM and say open a DEC claim then?
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Post by Guest on Tue 04 Jul 2017, 15:28

Artie Simm wrote:once again, who "declares" a Vet, DEC, I`ve completed a Rehab program and am working, but according to what I`ve read about DEC, it`s no longer "Totally impared" but "Diminished capacity", so you can now have a job and still claim it. Just because a Vet is now working, it shouldn`t mean he`s not entitled to a portion of that income he lost from being released well before 25 years service.
If you read the whole DEC page, it says you need this assessment and that, but it also says VAC can make a decision based on medical/psychologial reports that already have without the Vet needing to jump through any more hoops.

A VAC Case Manager is the person who initiates the DEC for you. It is the Case Manager who either approves you for DEC, or recommends in a report to VAC to either qualify you, or not qualify you. Either way, you need to go through a Case Manager, at least that is my understanding. Others can correct if it can be done on your own.

One point about one of your above post Artie where you state you refuse to take medication, when applying for any benefit, I would not state in the application you refuse to take medication, that's just my advice, you do what you feel is right.

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