Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

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Post by Dannypaj on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 08:33

Not sure if this on CSAT, but if not here it is.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2015/2015-04-08/html/sor-dors69-eng.php

The earnings loss benefit is provided in recognition of the economic impacts of a career ending and/or service-related health problem on a veteran’s ability to earn income following release from the military. For a veteran who, despite all efforts at rehabilitation, is unable to pursue suitable gainful employment due to his/her eligible health problem, the earnings loss benefit may be payable until age 65 (when they may qualify for VAC, or other, retirement benefits). The amount of earnings loss benefit is calculated using 90% of the veteran’s monthly “imputed income,” as defined in the Regulations, minus certain income offsets (e.g. employment earnings, retirement income and other income). This amount is also used in determining the earnings loss benefit paid to eligible survivors and orphans.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Dannypaj on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 08:35


Clarify "Maybe payable" would be a start, why cause the stress. Neutral
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Guest on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 08:39

well bigrex that's the issue . the compensation for disabilities . this is the fight . the PA pension .

actually bigrex IN PRACTICE the new benefits were added to the PA but only for PA guys . NVC guys had to trade the PA pension to get them . what a crapy trade that was .

imagine always having something coming in you can rely on the rest of your life weather it be a little or a lot . tax free ta boot . no one taking it away and once granted no more paperwork to re-up . talk about stress relief . go to school go to work no matter you don't need to report it or fill out anything and no one takes it away or reduces it for simply carrying on with life because that's what you do you just carry on with life no fracking headaches .

if your only monthly income is the new benefits its like a whole other planet . conditions paperwork and crap that you know if something goes wrong you are fracked .

its fracking insanity is what it is.

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Post by czerv on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 08:57

This is a job creation exercise for VAC. More paper work/ "control" of a veteran, more job openings for them. Also, makes them feel important .... not to mention all the politicians, retired generals who get those positions, etc., etc.

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Nov 2016, 06:22

thanks buds I appreciate that but I'm no advocate . the way I see some advocates act and behave I really wouldn't want to have that label . all I do is help out vets in my area when I can and offer a little advice and opinion on a few vets sights here and their . thing is it makes me feel good to do so especially when I see people get the help or benefits they need and have earned so in a way a little selfish , but nothing wrong with that I think .

when I see advocates or hand picked advocates and well others asked for recommendations and instead of giving the GOC the one recommendation that cant be minimalized and would bring equality and fairness back to the system and forces the GOC into a yes or no response I get a little angry .

when I realize these advocates are mostly PA vets that decide instead of that one obvious and clear recommendation that would not put a single dime in their own pockets they come up with a pile of recommendation's that will instead . to me that goes beyond selfish that's fracking greed .

should PA vets have more ???? sure they are vets after all I say the world to them my friend to ALL vets. BUT NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR THAT !!!!! no fracking way not till equality and fairness is brought back to the system .

I guy asked here not that long ago when is enough enough ? great question ? for me right now as a PA vet enough already at least for now ? yup PA vets got problems for sure say VRAB for one . its fine to have a good benefits package but if your being denied these benefits you earned and deserve for no good reason then what's the point .

of cores NVC vets have this same problem with a relatively shyte benefits package ta boot .

first and foremost we need an equal and fair benefits package for ALL !!!!!!

then instead of being divided , fragmented and easily turned against each other by the GOC we could fight together to ensure everyone one who should be getting benefits actually does .

we can move on from there .

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Post by Dannypaj on Sat 05 Nov 2016, 09:30

BZ sir, I commend you in helping veterans RIP. This gesture of respect by one individual in a large society like ours goes along way and especially with social media.
Selfless and given back, that is respect, Thanks.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by 1993firebird on Sat 05 Nov 2016, 10:44

Everyone just take a deep breath and relax. It took me 14 years to get everything that I was told that I am entitled to receive. The problem is entitled does not mean automatic when it comes to people and money.

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Post by Bruce72 on Sat 05 Nov 2016, 23:26

Agreed Firebird, it took me 11 years to be at the level of compensation I'm at. My first CM was off side. Eleven years and a career lost.

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Post by Bruce72 on Sun 06 Nov 2016, 05:57

Skeptical,  I'm not trying to be provoke an argument, but I don't really appreciate your take on my situation.  Eleven years is not a short time.  It's been a long road to the level of recovery I currently find myself in.  That road was fraught with a lot grief, self loathing, suicidal thoughts, destroyed personal relationships,  years of on going therapy and substance abuse, just to name a few of the speed bumps. I'd give back all the financial compensation I've received from VAC if I could be who I used to be before serving.

In the future if you could keep your opinions about other people's situations to yourself, and instead, offer only support and or guidance to your fellow veterans, it would be appreciated.

With that being said, I have had a lot of experience dealing with VAC and it's processes and if I can do anything or offer advice to help you, please don't hesitate to ask me via PM.

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Guest on Sun 06 Nov 2016, 06:21

skeptical they should be looking at the combined effect of all your conditions not jist picking the condition of the month or whatever they seem to be doing . yes you can get EELB for physical injuries  if you are over 100% you should not be getting the hard time you are getting . that just makes no sense to me .

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Post by bigrex on Sun 06 Nov 2016, 09:01

I have EELB, solely because of my physical limitations, recognized and not recognized, create a situation where I can no longer work. I was working, but was bed ridden between shifts, until it got to the point that I couldn't even get out of bed to go to work. You say that you've been in the system a long time, so were you working all this time with the physical disabilities? Have you complained that your physical disabilities have worsened, or did you tell your Dr that it was your PTSD that was starting to create issues? There has to be a reason that they are focusing on the PTSD
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by prawnstar on Sun 06 Nov 2016, 10:44

Skeptical it sounds like your situation may be different but I found when I was going through the VAC grinder I missed many details or thought I understood things. My saving grace was an Awesome CM who took the time to explain things to make sure I was clear. I'm not sure if this is right but if you are 100% for one condition doesn't mean you are TPI and other injuries are covered by VIP and other medical services?

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by prawnstar on Sun 06 Nov 2016, 12:35

VAC determines if you are Totally and Permanently Injured. Do you have a case manager? That person should be the one dealing with VAC on these matters. If you don't the Legion has case Officers that can help you. This is something you cannot do on your own.

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Trooper on Wed 22 Mar 2017, 15:16

Moving this topic up, this is also suppose to take affect April, 01, 2017.

Those who have not looked into getting deemed "Totally Permanently Incapacitated" (TPI), should now be taking a second look, because "Totally Permanently Incapacitated" (TPI), is going to be changed to "Diminished Earning Capacity" (DEC).

This should make it easier to qualify, for the (DEC), you would need this to apply for the "Career Impact Allowance" (CIA) supplement.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by cosmo12 on Sat 01 Apr 2017, 17:33

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1971

New policy

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