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Post by 1993firebird on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 21:08

LMFAO

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Post by 1993firebird on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 21:08

Vaporize if you have it.

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Post by 1993firebird on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 21:07

I am definitely a have and am very thankful for having it.

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Guest on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 19:48

I'm fully aware of the Veterans on this forum, but I would not categorize them as the haves and have not's.
I would say that the forum has a mixture of Veterans, with a mixture of benefits and some who are full PA, some part PA and part NVC and some just on the NVC.
I always refer to veterans who are obtaining benefits as the ladder climb.
You always start at the bottom and work your way to the top.
It is true some get to the top quicker than others, some don't make it to the top and some hit road blocks on their quest to reach the top.
CSAT's main purpose is to come together as a team and provide info and help to one another to aid all disabled Veterans in their quest to reach the top of the ladder.
As it stands today, it is the NVC that is in place, therefore it is the NVC in which we concentrate on in supplying the info and help.

I personally do not care for the NVC, but there's many who embrace it and just want the ongoing improvements made to it.
You can thank the past and present government for this, they are the ones who have influenced those that approve the NVC and just want improvements to continue.
The fight for bringing back the one Veteran one Standard IE: Tax Free Pension Act, is fading among Veterans and Veterans groups. Again, the government and their bureaucrats have us all exactly where they want us to be.
Those that are fighting for the return of the PA pension are not invited to be part of the advisory committee, the bureaucrats are running the whole show and they don't want anyone getting in their way.
In my opinion the proper time to have tackled the return of the PA pension would have been right from the start, the very first meeting with our new minister, and ongoing continuation up to present day and beyond.
What we have now are divisions among Veterans and Veterans groups regarding priorities and standing points of views on the best way to move forward on our file.
At the same time, it really does not matter much as the bureaucrats are going to implement what they want, when they want, and Kent is going to give the green light in all cases.
So who are the winners? I would say the bureaucrats and the government first, those that are full PA and finally those who accept the ongoing improvements to the NVC.

In the meantime CSAT must continue to provide the help and info from what is in place today, the NVC.

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Guest on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 17:03

Skeptical,

Don't play into their hands, I realize it's frustrating when your being told things such as you maybe losing you ELB.
You need to continue to fight and never give up hope.
Regarding the ELB you need your doctor, or a doctor to state that you can no longer work or function in the rehab program.
This is key in continuing to receive your ELB.

It's a situation where you need to take certain steps on your own to aid you in receiving benefits.
Start with talking with your doctor, see if your doctor will support you, if not, you need to find one who does.

Lots of real good members here on the forum that have gone through exactly what your now going through who will guide you, help you and even suggest what is needed by your doctor.

So stay in the fight and never give up, ask all the questions you want here, that's what were here for.

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Guest on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:44

Skeptical- if you don't mind me asking what is your case manger saying why you are being possibly not eligible for funding anymore?

If it's personal or don't want to post, I understand.  You can PM me if you like. Just trying to understand this VAC madness and help all.

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Post by Vet1234 on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:06

Skeptical wrote:Was informed by cm may lose elb eelb may not be an option this happened Monday doctor is sick of dealing with vac so am I. Same paper work over and over wonder how many copies are in my file.im over 100% have a small percentage in pa. Hence the name skeptical . Like the bill Murry movie ground  hog  day. Repetition  repetition  repetition. They must think I will heal if I do it enough.

I feel that 100000%
How many times does a doctor have to write the same thing on a different report/form/application
It's ridiculous
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Guest on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 10:22

Totally Permanently Incapacitated" (TPI)  has been changed to  "Diminished Earning Capacity"  (DEC)

These changes in new names and perhaps  small changes in wording for application to be approved or denied are directed to the NVC Vet. My opinion now is they are going to try to get the NVC Vets approved for as many things as possible in order to actually bring the differences closer of what the difference is between the PA  Vets and NVC Vets.

They have done or almost completed ELB changed, my VAC account first time showed by ELB rate for the 15% while I am still on SSIP LTD.  Going to apply for a few more things, but not right away.  Then, the top up of this spring 1 April (360k - roughly 11k per 25%) which will close the gap between the two types of Vets very little.  I'm bitter now, no.  But  the playing field is still not fair, maybe the court case will fix more.  

I can see where they are going to avoid bringing back the  pension, make some happy, soften us up to accept a deal that's unacceptable to me.

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Dannypaj on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 09:15



I've been sworn into it at birth, I swore into it as soon as I turned nineteen and all I want from Canada is respect! And for all of the soldiers who solemnly swear to protect and defend the soverinty and people of Canada..
Honour, Pride and Acknowledgment of our duty and sacrifices we've made will go along way.
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Vet1234 on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 08:36

Well I have my meeting to confirm my TPI on Tuesday. Not sure what changing TPI to DEC will be.. I moved through the ranks to senior NCM pretty fast, but still had easily over 10 years to serve. I'm frustrated with all the talk about 3B and Med release. I VR'd because I was broken and so was the system. My DA and injuries deemed related to service and duty... Can I get my release changed?? I've asked and asked and asked... no help. It's embarrassing to look at my docs and have to tell people I'm a quitter. Oh, and people ask all the time when dealing with VAC BS paperwork. So you're disabled? but then why wasn't your release medical? Priority hiring for 3Bs... oh, you quit, you weren't medically released. SMH
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Dannypaj on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 08:11

and who's to say you would of not been a General or Admiral, but you need to be in the right stream and kiss the right asses to get there.
Rename PIA to CIA? Okay, my career was cut short 14 years (3b med release)......no compensation until now? Wow, the math on that one.
Politicians,, please respect your veterans. Fulfill the mandate letter or continue to hear the out poor of disapproval from veterans......
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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Dannypaj on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 08:00

May mean nothing to someone else looking at the service date expiry, but to me it means a lot.

Maybe I can finally heal after knowing I am at my twenty year mark. What BS

(ramped you up for their own gains, eh!)

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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Dannypaj on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 07:56



BTW

YOUR administrative process = My med release and years of spinning in circles chasing my tail......nice system (i.e. VAC/VRAB and the long waiting period  .  it takes for ever for a decision and especially when you are blind sided with your first denial.

Just in case there is any doubt to my want "at the time" to be of service to Canada (mind, body and god forbid soul)....being a 3b release, is not enjoyable and was the most degrading form of punishment  for me personally...false hope and years of uncertainty.


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Totally and Permanently Incapacitated

Post by Guest on Wed 02 Nov 2016, 14:59

Totally and Permanently Incapacitated (TPI)

Click on the link below to learn about the criteria for considering a Veteran to be “totally and permanently incapacitated

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1971


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Re: Diminished Earning Capacity (DEC)

Post by Dannypaj on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 08:32

"Yet diminished earnings Capacity might allow someone to work part time, without losing their benefits".
I worked as a Commissionaire for 9 years after being medically released and now that they have me in rehab and I rerolled the wool back up from over my eyes also being older and wiser, yes, your right, they have to be (the GOC ) very careful or face the possibility of being sued....with a backlash!
I have the paper trail and the medical records. My case is a gong show and like everyone on here, I will fight them tooth and nail.
They keep changing things up and they are doing it for a reason. I am trying to look at the big picture of all that has happened and hopefully things  are getting better and not worst.  

Bottom line......when a military member signs a contract and is willing to do another 14 years even injured and then is kicked out medically and honourably because they don't meet the Universality of Service, sorry for complaining that I was unfairly treated...guess contracts do not mean anything. ( I still could of been useful to the CAF, that is what I am saying), I knew my limitations and if I didn't come forward it could be my life and others in the CAF, so regrets "YES", but doing the right thing was what I did at the time (admitting I had a medical condition).

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