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Military veteran calls for federal apology for controversial anti-malaria drug Mefloquine

Post by Ex Member on Sun 31 Jan 2016, 04:30

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Mental state of some paratroops on ill-fated Somalia mission may have been affected by Mefloquine, advocates say


OTTAWA — A B.C. veteran says Canada should follow the United Kingdom’s recent lead and apologize for recklessly handing out an anti-malaria drug that has been described as being “the worse form of friendly fire.”

In an appearance this month before a parliamentary committee probing alleged misuse of Mefloquine, a British minister acknowledged that the MPs had heard considerable testimony about soldiers suffering crippling long-term neurological and psychiatric problems after taking the drug.

“I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to any former or current service personnel affected,” said Mark Lancaster, the parliamentary undersecretary of state and minister for defence personnel and veterans.

The apology was music to the ears to Canadian veterans and those who have advocated on their behalf since the federal government began dispensing Mefloquine to paratroopers during the ill-fated 1992-93 mission to Somalia.

“It’s about time that some government, somewhere, finally stepped up and admitted there was a problem with this drug,” said former B.C. Conservative leader John Cummins, who as a rookie MP in the early 1990s was among the first to raise alarm bells about the drug’s impact on some soldiers.

Cummins was among several critics who alleged that Mefloquine, which is still prescribed to soldiers and which can cause nightmares, depression, suicidal thoughts, and psychotic episodes, was behind the torture and murder of a Somalian teenager by two members of the Canadian Airborne Regiment in 1993.

Both Cummins and B.C. veteran Hervey Blois, who was on the Somalia mission as a medic but wasn’t involved in Shidane Arone’s murder, say Ottawa should apologize for the way it has dispensed the drug to military personnel.

In a letter last month to Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, the MP for Vancouver South, and Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr, Blois said he suffers from fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome.

While he lives on a disability benefit and receives government-funded counselling, he told The Sun in a recent interview that what’s missing is an acknowledgment that the Canadian government shouldn’t have used he and other soldiers as human “guinea pigs.”

He was referring to the conclusions of an Auditor General of Canada report in 1999, which said Mefloquine was not a licensed drug in Canada during the Somalia mission, and that soldiers were given the drug without their “informed consent” as part of a clinical trial.

“I just want an apology,” Blois said.

While Blois only wants a symbolic gesture, other veterans want Canada to end its use of Mefloquine.

The percentage of Canadian military personnel overseas who take Mefloquine while in malaria zones has fallen to just five per cent due to concern about side-effects.

But even that total is too high, according to John Dowe, a Mississauga-based veteran of the airborne regiment who runs an international social media network for veterans concerned about the drug.

He said Ottawa is “lowballing” the risks and called on the Trudeau government to stop issuing Mefloquine completely.

His group also wants Veterans Affairs Canada to aggressively reach out to past and current Mefloquine users to determine if their post-traumatic stress disorder or other health issues might be related to the drug.

Their final request is that Ottawa call a public inquiry into military’s use of the drug dating back to the Somalia tragedy.


One of the leading authorities on government misuse of Mefloquine, Dr. Remington Nevin, said Canada is mishandling the drug and should heed calls to remove the drug from its list of those authorized for use by soldiers in malaria zones.

Nevin is a former U.S. army major who specializes on antimalarial drug toxicity at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore.

He said Canadian soldiers use the drug at five times the rate of their U.S. counterparts. Among American special forces, it is banned.

Nevin also said warnings on packages given Canadian soldiers are outdated. In the U.S. users, according to a document sent to pharmacists dated February 2015, are told that psychiatric effects can last “years,” and neurological effects can become “permanent.”

In Canada, according to a product information document given to pharmacists that’s dated May 27, 2010, these side-effects are said to only last for weeks in the case of psychiatric issues, and months for neurological issues like vertigo.

That position that side effects aren’t permanent was also taken in a statement to The Sun this week from the Canadian military’s public affairs department.

“The side effects are usually mild and self-limiting, (e.g., nausea, strange dreams, dizziness, mood changes, insomnia, headaches and diarrhea). Few (one to four per cent) of users will discontinue the drug because of side effects.”

The statement also noted that the military’s decision to use the drug is supported by recommendations from the Public Health Agency of Canada, the World Health Organization, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Nevin said the lack of information on possible permanent effects demonstrates that Canada is operating on out-dated information.

“I question whether Canadian Forces personnel are being properly informed of the drug’s risks, and therefore whether they are making a fully informed decision,” Nevin told The Sun.

Vancouver psychiatrist Dr. Greg Passey, who took Mefloquine while on the Rwanda peacekeeping mission during the 1994 genocide, said he suffered no long-term negative effects.

But he agreed with Blois that the Trudeau government should follow Britain’s lead, given the growing body of research showing a link between the drug and long-term depression, suicide and post-traumatic stress disorder.

“I believe Canada should follow the same source of action — that the government be responsible and accountable for its actions,” said Dr. Passey, who treats PTSD victims within the Canadian military and RCMP at the B.C. Operational Stress Injury Clinic.


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B.C. military veteran calls for federal apology for controversial anti-malaria drug

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OTTAWA — A B.C. veteran says Canada should follow the United Kingdom’s recent lead and apologize for recklessly handing out an anti-malaria drug that has been described as being “the worse form of friendly fire.”

In an appearance this month before a parliamentary committee probing alleged misuse of Mefloquine, a British minister acknowledged that the MPs had heard considerable testimony about soldiers suffering crippling long-term neurological and psychiatric problems after taking the drug.

“I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to any former or current service personnel affected,” said Mark Lancaster, the parliamentary undersecretary of state and minister for defence personnel and veterans.

The apology was music to the ears to Canadian veterans and those who have advocated on their behalf since the federal government began dispensing Mefloquine to paratroopers during the ill-fated 1992-93 mission to Somalia.

“It’s about time that some government, somewhere, finally stepped up and admitted there was a problem with this drug,” said former B.C. Conservative leader John Cummins, who as a rookie MP in the early 1990s was among the first to raise alarm bells about the drug’s impact on some soldiers.

Cummins was among several critics who alleged that Mefloquine, which is still prescribed to soldiers and which can cause nightmares, depression, suicidal thoughts, and psychotic episodes, was behind the torture and murder of a Somalian teenager by two members of the Canadian Airborne Regiment in 1993.

Both Cummins and B.C. veteran Hervey Blois, who was on the Somalia mission as a medic but wasn’t involved in Shidane Arone’s murder, say Ottawa should apologize for the way it has dispensed the drug to military personnel.

In a letter last month to Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, the MP for Vancouver South, and Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr, Blois said he suffers from fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome.

While he lives on a disability benefit and receives government-funded counselling, he told The Sun in a recent interview that what’s missing is an acknowledgment that the Canadian government shouldn’t have used he and other soldiers as human “guinea pigs.”

He was referring to the conclusions of an Auditor General of Canada report in 1999, which said Mefloquine was not a licensed drug in Canada during the Somalia mission, and that soldiers were given the drug without their “informed consent” as part of a clinical trial.

“I just want an apology,” Blois said.

While Blois only wants a symbolic gesture, other veterans want Canada to end its use of Mefloquine.

The percentage of Canadian military personnel overseas who take Mefloquine while in malaria zones has fallen to just five per cent due to concern about side-effects.

But even that total is too high, according to John Dowe, a Mississauga-based veteran of the airborne regiment who runs an international social media network for veterans concerned about the drug.

He said Ottawa is “lowballing” the risks and called on the Trudeau government to stop issuing Mefloquine completely.

His group also wants Veterans Affairs Canada to aggressively reach out to past and current Mefloquine users to determine if their post-traumatic stress disorder or other health issues might be related to the drug.

Their final request is that Ottawa call a public inquiry into military’s use of the drug dating back to the Somalia tragedy.

One of the leading authorities on government misuse of Mefloquine, Dr. Remington Nevin, said Canada is mishandling the drug and should heed calls to remove the drug from its list of those authorized for use by soldiers in malaria zones.

Nevin is a former U.S. army major who specializes on antimalarial drug toxicity at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore.

He said Canadian soldiers use the drug at five times the rate of their U.S. counterparts. Among American special forces, it is banned.

Nevin also said warnings on packages given Canadian soldiers are outdated. In the U.S. users, according to a document sent to pharmacists dated February 2015, are told that psychiatric effects can last “years,” and neurological effects can become “permanent.”

In Canada, according to a product information document given to pharmacists that’s dated May 27, 2010, these side-effects are said to only last for weeks in the case of psychiatric issues, and months for neurological issues like vertigo.

That position that side effects aren’t permanent was also taken in a statement to The Sun this week from the Canadian military’s public affairs department.

“The side effects are usually mild and self-limiting, (e.g., nausea, strange dreams, dizziness, mood changes, insomnia, headaches and diarrhea). Few (one to four per cent) of users will discontinue the drug because of side effects.”

The statement also noted that the military’s decision to use the drug is supported by recommendations from the Public Health Agency of Canada, the World Health Organization, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Nevin said the lack of information on possible permanent effects demonstrates that Canada is operating on out-dated information.

“I question whether Canadian Forces personnel are being properly informed of the drug’s risks, and therefore whether they are making a fully informed decision,” Nevin told The Sun.

Vancouver psychiatrist Dr. Greg Passey, who took Mefloquine while on the Rwanda peacekeeping mission during the 1994 genocide, said he suffered no long-term negative effects.

But he agreed with Blois that the Trudeau government should follow Britain’s lead, given the growing body of research showing a link between the drug and long-term depression, suicide and post-traumatic stress disorder.

“I believe Canada should follow the same source of action — that the government be responsible and accountable for its actions,” said Dr. Passey, who treats PTSD victims within the Canadian military and RCMP at the B.C. Operational Stress Injury Clinic.

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Post by Guest on Thu 16 Jul 2015, 20:00

oh ive taken that I thought it was great . coudnt get to the movies on tour but all I needed was a nap and then WOW. what a show I was in for. no one on the planet has the imagination to wright a novel as fracked up as the dreams I was having .

seriously if ya suffer from boredom and have a strong stomach you really ought to try this stuff lol.

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Post by Riddick on Thu 16 Jul 2015, 16:39

Lol....yes I can see that....spend millions to discredit the veterans.......it must be be.....all in our heads.

Of course they will try to pretend it has had no negative effects. Typical of the government.

I am not looking for conspiracies but the government is notorious for not owning up and being accountable. The government hates transparencies (look at the the slimy Senate) can't put anything past them. They will not step up to the plate willingly.

It will take time, but eventually there will be enough exposure via the veteran community/media and they will have to deal with it....and it will probably be more expense to fix it then.

Then they will say there is no correlation between mental illness and a drug already proven to be very harmful to the human brain.

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Post by Ex Member on Thu 16 Jul 2015, 15:44

There's traces of that shit in me....guaranteed.

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Post by Ex Member on Thu 16 Jul 2015, 15:43

If the government owns up to this I'd be shocked. They will pay 20 million dollars to have some scientists say there's no harmful affects.

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Post by Riddick on Wed 15 Jul 2015, 17:42

A question posted to the MVA on Facebook a few days ago as to how he plans on supporting veterans who had to take this drug....... hmmmm no reply or answer was given (as of yet)

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Post by tfmm on Sun 12 Jul 2015, 13:18

*Not an expert. Just someone researching, looking for answers*

Statistics vary marginally depending on which study you look at.
It's generally accepted that 10% of the population is genetically vulnerable to an autoimmune disorder, with 1-2% actually acquiring. (The ones I've looked into so far)

One way to acquire an autoimmune disorder is via vaccination.

Vaccines are commonly formulated with adjuvants. Adjuvants are suspensions with molecules that bind to antigens to induce a robust immune response with less antigen used.
When the antigen/adjuvant complex has been metabolized and memory cells formed, enzymes destroy the excess (and random mutation) immune cells being produced and the chemical signalling stops.

Ideally.

Problems arise:
- with individuals genetically predisposed via impairment or lack of specific enzymes, perpetuating the immune response.
- with vaccine overload (multiple vaccines at once), suppressing the immune response.
-with toxic adjuvants.
-with contaminants.
-with concurrent infection.

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Post by johnny211 on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 16:49

Does anyone know when they started using them? I did Damascus/Golan 79-80, took a few things, and cannot remember if that was one? VVV...
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Post by Ex Member on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 15:52

Spouse diagnosed with chronic severe neutropenia which was concurrent with his Bosnia tour.

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Post by tfmm on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 15:13

I'm curious.
How many vets here have auto-immune disorders that they did not have prior to vaccinations?
Psoriasis, type 1 diabetes, inflammatory conditions, etc., or co-morbid cardiovascular conditions?

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Post by tfmm on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 15:04

Using an iPad and can't seem to copy or read the full link...
www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/asps?DocId=1039806

Nov 99, Brigadier-General Claude Auger states the conditions under which the drug was used.

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Soldiers still suffering serious mental illness linked to controversial anti-malarial drug Lariam

Post by Riddick on Thu 09 Jul 2015, 12:10

I spent months in Africa at a time from 1989 to 1996. I had to take anti-malaria pills. Mefloquine (Lariam) sounds awful familiar....can anyone confirm this?

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