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Trudeau Breaking Faith With Canada’s Veterans

Post by Dannypaj on Wed 10 May 2017, 06:17

Trudeau Breaking Faith With Canada’s Veterans



SPENCERFERNANDO MAY 9, 2017



Trust must be restored in Service to Country

In 1917 as the Battle of Vimy Ridge drew near, Prime Minister Robert Borden spoke of the sacred duty Canada had to support our soldiers. Borden said Canada’s Veterans, “need have no fear that the government and the country would fail to show just appreciation of their service.” Borden added it was the “first duty” of the country to support Canadian soldiers and said they must not have “just cause to reproach the government for having broken faith,” with them.

Borden’s comments weren’t just a one-off speech. They represented a promise from the government to Canada’s veterans, and the government made that clear by saying the “maimed,”, “broken,” “the widow and the orphan” would be supported. The government added that, “Duty and decency demanded that those saving democracy should not find democracy a house of privilege, or a school of poverty and hardship.”

Those words must be as true today as they were 100 years ago.


Unfortunately, that hasn’t been the case.

Successive governments have copied Borden’s sentiments, without following through on the actions that sentiment demands.

Today, Canadian Veterans are not getting the help they need, and the very programs meant to help them are being turned into systems designed to make a profit for the federal government, rather than help Veterans.

Aaron Bedard – standing up for the rights of Canada’s Veterans

I recently interviewed someone who has vast experience dealing with Veterans Affairs, and fighting for Canadian Veterans: Aaron Bedard – a Former Corporal in the Combat Engineer’s.

Corporal Bedard bravely served our country in Afghanistan, and now he serves the cause of supporting the rights of Canadian Veterans.

During his service in Afghanistan, a vehicle in which Bedard was travelling went over an anti-tank mine.

As he dealt with the aftermath of the injury he sustained in the blast, Bedard witnessed the lack of support provided to Veterans.

At one point, his file was lost for a full year.

Bedard deals with the ongoing consequences of the blast:

He uses cannabinoid oil to help with severe headcahces, pain, and PTSD – which relaxes the parasympathetic nervous system, and uses Botox injections for chronic headaches.

Bedard’s personal experiences have given him unique insight into the severe shortcomings of the Veterans care system.

Disturbingly – considering how many Veterans have PTSD – Bedard says “PTSD is being managed horribly,” with far too much focus on “pharmaceuticals and treating people like an experiment.”

Bedard says they need to heal the body, as “the nervous system is the problem.”

Bedard says that 11 years after his injury, they still have not done all the medical assessments he needs. In fact, he just got assessed for a Traumatic Brain Injury – over a decade later.

Clearly, something has gone very wrong with the system. And it’s not just the system of treatment that is failing. The basic contract behind supporting our Veterans has been broken. The New Veterans Charter is a big part of that problem.

New Veterans Charter

The New Veterans Charter (NVC) was brought in by the previous government in 2006. It replaced the lifetime pension with a lump sum payment. While it was sold as something that would help Veterans, many feel it has done the exact opposite – moving away from Borden’s lifetime pensions promise.

Bedard says the NVC was modelled after an insurance company, and was set up to make it difficult to get benefits.

As Bedard put it, the NVC “exploited the best aspects of soldiers – that they don’t want to be an administrative burden or show weakness,” and it’s “designed to deny benefits or reduce them,” in the hope “people will go away.”

The New Veterans Charter has created savings, but when it comes to helping Veterans, budget savings mean money is not getting where it needs to be.

In fact, every year, the Veterans Affairs Department sends back about $130 million to the government. That means in the last 10 years, around $1.3 billion budgeted for Veterans has gone unspent.

That is a disgrace.

That is money that was supposed to help our Veterans who were in need, but instead the government put it back into general revenue.

It’s a sick irony that almost everything the government does goes way over-budget, except when it comes to helping Veterans.

The Equitas Society

In response to the New Veterans Charter, a group of Canadian Veterans and their families launched the Equitas Society. They describe themselves as a “BC-based, national, cross-partisan, volunteer community organization which since 2011 has sought fair settlements for disabled veterans through a class action lawsuit launched by six representative plaintiffs over deficient compensation awarded under the New Veterans Charter.”

Corporal Bedard is one of the six lead plaintiffs of the Equitas case, seeking to restore justice, fairness, and equity for Canadian Veterans.

Bedard has tried working with people in both the past and current government to get Veterans the support and benefits they were promised.

While Erin O’Toole was Veterans Affairs Minister, Bedard had a conversation with him, and negotiations had started on the Equitas Case. However, he says the critical injury benefit, along with many other programs, were “underfunded from the start.”

Bedard also pointed out that O’Toole went on TV and was honest in saying that many more people were eligible for the critical injury benefit than were receiving it.

Says Bedard, “They (the government), didn’t want to give him (O’Toole) the stuff to win the Veterans vote.”

Things have not gone any better with the Trudeau government.

Trudeau breaks lifelong pension promise

When he was seeking power, Justin Trudeau promised to fix the problems with the New Veterans Charter. He said he would restore lifelong pensions for Veterans.

“If I earn the right to serve this country as your Prime Minister, no veteran will be forced to fight their own government for the support and compensation that they have earned,” said Trudeau at the time. “We will reinstate lifelong pensions and increase their value in line with the obligation we have made to those injured in the line of duty.”

He has not done so.

The Equitas Society clearly explains how that promise has been broken so far:

“The lifelong military pension (according to the previous Pension Act) that was promised to be reinstated by now Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had these attributes:

  • 75% of previous earnings (non-taxable)

  • Not subject to claw back

  • Not subject to review or revision

  • Indexed


The announcements made in Budget 2017 that were released on March 22 do not fulfill this promise of lifelong pensions. What the government referred to as a “pension option” is simply the ability to receive their Disability Award through a monthly payment for life, rather than the inadequate one-time lump sum payment. This does not come close to providing the standard of care and compensation that the previous Pension Act provided and that was promised by Prime Minister Robert Borden and other governments since.”

In a terrible irony, Veterans are now forced to fight in court against the same government that promised those court cases wouldn’t be necessary ever again.

Says the Equitas Society, “While there have been some improvements in some benefits for Canada’s disabled veterans, lifelong pensions remain an unfulfilled promise and makes it necessary for justice to continue to be sought in the courts through our class action lawsuit. While Prime Minister Trudeau stated in his election promise that “no veteran will be forced to fight their own government” that is exactly what the representative plaintiffs have been compelled to do as a result of this government not delivering on the promise of a lifelong pension and by not providing a timeline when that promise might be fulfilled.”

During our conversation, Bedard pointed out the main differences between Trudeau’s promises, and his actual budget plans when it comes to Veterans.

Here’s a list:

  • Instead of restoring the lifetime pension, Trudeau has altered his promise to an “option” for a pension.

  • They lowered the benefits payments for veterans, and moved privates from corporal 4 pay to private 4 pay. This adjustment to the benefit keeps young soldiers right at the poverty line. They’re “screwing over the young guys,” by cutting the benefits for Privates. 90% of injured soldiers are of the Private or Corporal Rank.

  • The retroactive top-up was supposed to be put at $360,000. Instead, the government tied it to the consumer price index, which lead to less than half the increase.

  • All troops must serve a minimum of 10 years for a basic pension – which starts at only $350 a month. Politicians work just 6 years and get $100,000 pension.


Worst of all, the Trudeau government is showing no intention of living up to their campaign promise.

Trudeau “slowed down return of the pension.”

Immediately after the election, the Trudeau government made the unusual move to publicly release a mandate letter to the Minister of Veterans Affairs. On December 3rd, 2015, the government held a stakeholders meeting to discuss how the Minister’s mandate could be fulfilled.

An advisory group was also formed.

“Advisory groups” are how governments avoid doing something. They pass it all off on some other group they can blame, and hope it goes away.

Bedard says the policy advisory group had already come up with a reasonable plan to restore the pension, but a year and a half later he asks, “Where is the pension?”

Instead, the Trudeau government talked more about spending – how they could “sprinkle more benefits,” into the existing suite of programs.

Of course, that’s not what Trudeau promised during the campaign. He promised the lifetime pension would return, nothing less.

And when the government broke their promises to Veterans in the 2017 Budget, they didn’t even tell Veterans ahead of time. A total lack of respect.

Government clueless about Veterans

In my conversation with Bedard, a clear impression forms of the Trudeau government: They are clueless and ignorant about Veterans issues.

For example, Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr had announced new programs for family support. But the “new” programs were just a link to a webpage from 2012, while the other was a link to a public health organization’s one pager with a few things people can do for PTSD – just a couple of bullet points.

And when Trudeau spoke at the Invictus games and tried talking about “all the great programs” the government had for Veterans, he spoke about the Last Post Fund. The problem? As Bedard said, “It’s a fund for when you’re dead and have to be buried.”

It doesn’t get more tone-deaf than that, and Bedard says it means “the PMO doesn’t have a good advisor for Veterans.”

“Trust must be restored in Service to Country”

The government is breaking faith with Canadian Veterans.

Campaign promises have turned out to be empty.

Pledges have been broken, and trust has been lost.

For the government to fix things, Bedard says “They have to have a Veteran who understands the Veterans community.”

Says Bedard, “Trust must be restored in Service to Country.”

How you can help

Every Canadian benefits from the sacrifices of the brave men and women in uniform who serve our country. Without them, I would not be free to write this story, and you would not be free to read it.

We owe everything to our Veterans. So, the least we can do is spread the word about their fight for justice, and support their efforts.

Aaron Bedard and The Equitas Society are still fighting in court for Canadian Veterans. The next step could be going to the Supreme Court.

Equitas is a grassroots organization, and they face up to $100,000 in ongoing legal costs. Because of that, they need help from Canadians to keep their efforts going.

That’s why I encourage you to click the link below, and donate whatever you can to help the Equitas Society.

SUPPORT THE EQUITAS SOCIETY


We need millions of Canadians standing behind the Equitas Society and standing behind our Veterans. We need to make the pressure on the Trudeau government overwhelming, using public opinion to force them to make good on their promise to restore the lifelong pension.

Our Veterans fought for us. Now, all Canadians need to fight for them.

Spencer Fernando

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2017/05/09/trudeau-breaking-faith-canadas-veterans/





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EQUITAS Says Budget Falls Badly Short for Injured/Disabled Veterans

Post by Guest on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 09:55

EQUITAS Says Budget Falls Badly Short for Injured/Disabled Veterans (National Champion Seeking Better Deal for Afghan Conflict Veterans expresses ‘Huge Disappointment’)


White Rock, B.C. (March 23, 2017)

The Equitas Disabled Soldiers Funding Society [“Equitas”], a Canadawide community advocate for

- Acknowledgement that the Canadian Government has a ‘duty of care’ to its disabled soldiers.

- The restoration of lifelong pensions that are indexed, and not subject to claw backs or termination.

- Education support programs in which the average disabled soldier can participate.

- The enactment by Parliament of a Military Covenant that defines a standard of care for disabled soldiers across all federal government departments.

EQUITAS is pleased to note the acknowledgement in Budget 2017 delivered yesterday that “Canada’s veterans have dedicated their lives to the defence of our country”, and (consequently) “they deserve our unwavering support for the sacrifices they have made”. We are also glad to see the Government affirm its commitment “to ensuring that it delivers the programs and services our veterans—and their families—need for a seamless and successful transition from military to civilian life.” According to EQUITAS President Marc Burchell, “Regrettably, those stirring words and worthy sentiments about veterans expressed by the Minister of Finance seem hollow. And since the laudatory goal he underlined still remains elusive, EQUITAS is hugely disappointed.” “While it is true that since taking power the Liberal Government has come some distance in improving certain policies and implementing select programs having a positive effect for all veterans – including those injured and disabled, this Budget falls considerably short of what we anticipated”, said the EQUITAS President. This is because, in claiming the Government intends moving towards ‘re-establishing lifelong pensions as an option for injured veterans’, it has succeeded only in manipulating its promise, in mangling the numbers and in making a mockery of the concept of a pension overall. “Indeed”, asserted Mr. Burchell, “as presented in the Budget, the Government’s purported solution to the foundational objective of our organization – the abolition of lump-sum settlement payments and the reinstatement in their place of lifelong pensions for disabled veterans (a solemn undertaking to which Prime Minister Trudeau vigorously attached his personal prestige as a campaigning Party Leader seeking election in August 2015), is unacceptable. This is because the Government’s proposal of an alternative to a real pension, while attempting to classify it as an actual one, plainly is a misleading insult to our disabled veteran stakeholders. It. would short-change many in much the same way as the lump-sum system currently does under the New Veterans Charter.”

EQUITAS is the BC-based, national, cross-partisan, volunteer community organization which since 2011 has sought fair settlements for disabled veterans through a class action lawsuit launched by six representative plaintiffs over deficient compensation awarded under the New Veterans Charter.

Further Information CONTACT: Marc Burchell 604-616-7933, or Gerry Lenoski 604-813-1762

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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by Dannypaj on Fri 10 Feb 2017, 08:39

Sharing is caring.
Passing on some info Reference Equitas case


Aaron Bedard
VETERAN GUERRILLA RADIO

10 hrs
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We've been hibernating as best as possible this winter as last year was exhausting for everyone involved with EQUITAS. BM. and I will be headed to Ottawa soon for the next session of the MHAG (mental Health Advisory Group).

After a discussion last week it's been decided that there will be a VGR 2017. Clearly I don't post things everyday as I find the constant push a real burnout on us all. All of us only want to hear so much bad news. However, it's a new year and we aren't done. We still need to see the pension included in budget 2017.

If we don't see the pension it's going to determine what we do for the next 5-10 years. If there is no pension we will create 100s of advocates and overwhelm the Bureaucrats and crush the next election. We will take our military training and strip it down into lobbyist style warfare. We will win.

Until things gear up again I will be on personal fitness time, family time, fishing time, me time*...

But you all know I will jump if there's something to do or if any of you ever need access to my info or network. Always. I'm sure many of you could attest to my quick responses and support. So if there's a blip on the radar, or you hear a rumour to be verified, or see a story to be shared, please give me a heads up. Until then, as we Combat Engineers say,

CHIMO!!!
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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by LawnBoy77777 on Mon 29 Aug 2016, 07:46

Teager, I never did understand exactly what Equitas is after. I prefer simpler answers.

I was reading the War Amps v Canada ONCA 1997 cse & I was struck by the thought we might have an action in contract as they said that the pension was paid in an "impliied contract" where:

The soldier gives service to the nation:

The nation gives back, in exchange:

A. pay, including the deferred pay in the CFSA pension; &
B. Allowances; &
C. disability pension.

CLPA s. 9 prohibits an action in tort against Canada in exchange for the right to sue in Tort BUT contract law is not Tort law. That could be an opening to sue government on taking the pension away as it is not something given freely but it was something we bought.

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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by Teager on Thu 30 Jun 2016, 12:43

The courts can only tell them to change policy so what the government does in regards to that change can still be a crap deal. No matter what the government will only make whatever they do look good and do the bare minimum.

As for age they could easily just take an average number and say if you live past it will your not getting anymore. Die before it and you still get to keep it. VAC s known for coming up with some pretty crazy calculations. I think the scenerio above is one option of many.

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Jun 2016, 12:20

Thanks for that Teager, my opinion they will not go there as for one it will be nearly impossible to determine each individual's case looking at it from and age perspective. Number two it will not be a lifelong pension, it will be another buyout.

In my opinion I think the latest move by the judge has put the justice dept on edge, further to this we must remember were dealing with a court of law bearing in mind that bureaucrats are out of the picture. By the end of the summer were suppose to hear from the judge on his decision whether he grants the appeal or not.
The latest move is a good and welcome sign, not granting the appeal would even be better.

In the meantime I think it's highly unlikely that the government will bring anything forward regarding lifelong pensions, or similar, as the Equitas lawsuit key issue deals with lifelong pensions.

In my opinion I would say our best bet is with the courts, and not the government with respect to lifelong pensions or similar.

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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by Teager on Thu 30 Jun 2016, 11:53

This comes from the army.ca forum but a very interesting possibility. No matter what happens the government will try to save $.

" I have heard from a policy analyst that there has been some discussion at DVA about finding a way to cap their liability if they lose the Equitas case. One course of action that is being explored would be using a similar calculation to mine to determine a life time value of a pension and then paying a lump sum equal to 70% or 80% of the value. The concept being that it limits the crown's liabilities and gives them a guaranteed number and also eliminates the 50% lifetime survivors pension. The hope is that while still expensive the number would appear to the public to be large enough to put the government in good graces with the general public and at the same time make veteran's look unappreciative and greedy.

Maybe this is just one of many options/contingencies being explored and I need a little more rum............................But I have my suspicions.!!!

My source has been reliable over the years and has often provided me with accurate info on policy discussions and study papers that are not publicly released but can be found with some digging."

http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,105851.350.html


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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by Guest on Tue 21 Jun 2016, 20:45

ya pinger I get that buds it wouldn't happen anyway but in the past ive hered a lot of the minister should resign crap as if the next would be a big change . call for the PM to resign I say .

will he ? of course not but I bet ya dollars ta donuts it will get a lot of play in the media .

if you feel you don't have the pulpit from witch to speak then make one .

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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by pinger on Tue 21 Jun 2016, 20:21

Replacements won't work propat until their... teflon... shoes get ditched.

A real bloody shame.
Before an election they shake your hands with words.
After the election they shake your confidence with their actions.
It will happen again like in the past.

Shyte may run downstream but it's ALSO a 2-way street...

Teen, a word game lawsuit? Yup and a pathetic one to me.
But short of games, here's a song and dance...

My Foot bones connected to the heel bone
My Heel bones connected to the ankle bone
My Ankle bones connected to the shin bone
My Shin bones connected to the knee bone
Knee bones connected to the thigh bone
Thigh bones connected to the....... WHAT?

Respectfully...
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Post by Teentitan on Tue 21 Jun 2016, 19:39

So the DoJ is fighting that the gov't does not have to keep their promises because the only promises to be kept are for First Nations Aboriginals?

So it's a word game lawsuit now?
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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by Guest on Tue 21 Jun 2016, 19:25

A-1 PINGER you gotter buds time to call for a replacement of the PM . yup we should shake that big GOC tree see if we cant find us an apple that aint rotten to the core .

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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by pinger on Tue 21 Jun 2016, 19:15

He's a serious heavyweight, and he nailed it when he mentioned the linguistics and semantics of the GoC. Pretty soon the GoC may fight a dictionary in the court of law. Tx for the link Trooper.

About that Gloria Galloway video from yesterday. Something stood out to me. Throughout the whole video they were all pretty much happy with changes, new cabinet ministers, the senate etc.
BUT... when it came to the MVA, they didn't put him in the basement, they put him in the toilet.
I wonder why?

GoC and JT can keep replacing the MVA or any minister until hell freezes over but they will all have STRINGS attached to them. The puppet master is accountable to us and the Canadian public.

jmo pinger.
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Mercedes Stephenson with Don Sorochan Court Update

Post by Guest on Tue 21 Jun 2016, 16:33

CTV Power Play: Mercedes Stephenson with Don Sorochan Court Update .

This is and excellent Video given some great details of the lawsuit.


http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=895787

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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by Guest on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 19:41

No problem Johnny happy to help!

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Re: Veterans say government is breaking election promises by taking them back to court

Post by johnny211 on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 19:14

Trooper - Thank you for putting this vid on. And teentitan, I fully agree. I for one enjoy seeing the good, bad and ugly of DVA. And any issue that affects us wounded Vets on this forum are well appreciated. I know like me, there are many more on here who do not have the right head spacing. And for me it is very hard to search the internet or watch or read the news to find these items.
So BZ to you Trooper. And to the Guest, I fully agree with teentitan. Sounds like our lurker is a friend/worker of the Gov..You should read all our topics to see what real disabled Vets put up with daily..
VVV.... Out
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