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Post by Guest on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 07:55

Question Period Alupa Clarke , Cathy Wagantall , Erin O'Toole Tackle Kent Hehr.

Forward to 28:50 to watch the exchanges;


http://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/question-period/episodes/47978537/



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Post by Rifleman on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 08:47

What the frack are these options when it comes to PENTIONS MVA stop blowing smoke up are asses same old song and dance time to fill us in on your so called options 5.6 billion have not seen no difference in my PENTIONS but oh yes enjoy your nice healthy pay raise you fracking morons!!!!!

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Post by Dannypaj on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 08:49

Can I say Shyte kicking.
The liberals changed the PA to the NVC, the Conservatives kept the status quo and now the Liberals are still playing politics on our backs.
Where are the other Veterans from the Liberal's on our issue?
Ya, hiding, doing what they are told. Like usual, no one has any power in the HOC!
 House of Commons, more like the  House of Clowns.  
Power & Politics, 1. you will lose power 2. Politics & Veterans should never mix.
Thanks for the questions, who are the one's responsible for continuing this legal process?
NAMES ! ! ! Please
Seems like no one knows.
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Post by johnny211 on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 09:16

I watched it Trooper. I am now, well beyond sick of the MVA, going round in circles and not answering the ? Why did his gov not end the court case? Time to rebel and get rid of this fat ass..VVV...
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Post by bigrex on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 10:37

For those who don't want to listen to it, and have their ears bleed.

"Ms. Brigitte Sansoucy (Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot, NDP):
   Mr. Speaker, the Liberals promised to take a different approach when it comes to their relationship with our veterans. However, what the Liberals are calling “real change”, we would call “more of the same”.
   Not only is the Liberal government carrying on with the court case against our veterans, but now we have learned that too many veterans are finding it hard to access long-term care facilities, when those facilities are not being threatened with closure.
   Will the government promise to reinvest in order to ensure that all veterans have access to long-term care when they need it?

Hon. Kent Hehr (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, Lib.):
   Mr. Speaker, our government supports veterans in more than 1,500 long-term care facilities across this nation. We support veterans at whatever care level they need, and we pay for that care, and of course, we work with our provincial government partners to ensure they have access to these long-term care facilities. We are committed to veterans and the long-term care that they need and that they get.

Ms. Irene Mathyssen (London—Fanshawe, NDP):
   Mr. Speaker, just like the Conservatives before them, the Liberals are shamefully denying benefits to veterans. Care is downloaded to the provinces while federal facilities close beds or shut their doors.
    Peter Blendheim is a decorated 94-year-old war veteran, but he has been refused space at Camp Hill veterans hospital in Halifax. This is simply a disgrace.
   Will the Liberals change course and agree to start investing in long-term care so that all veterans can have access to the care they need and deserve?

Hon. Kent Hehr (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, Lib.):
   Mr. Speaker, Veterans Affairs supports allied veterans, including those from Norway, nationwide. We pay for their long-term care in 1,500 community facilities. We can also help them remain in their homes by providing a comprehensive home care service that includes personal health care, housekeeping, as well as yard work.

Mr. Alupa Clarke (Beauport—Limoilou, CPC):
   Mr. Speaker, during the election campaign, the Prime Minister said that no veteran would have to fight their own government to get the support and compensation they deserve.
   Now we know that those words were nothing more than empty rhetoric, given that the Prime Minister and his party took veterans back to court instead of concluding the settlement negotiations initiated by our Conservative government.
Why are the Liberals distancing themselves from their election promises by turning their backs on veterans?

Hon. Kent Hehr (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, Lib.):  
   Mr. Speaker, our government is committed to our sacred obligation to Canada's veterans, and this is outlined in the strong mandate given to me by the Prime Minister to repair the relationship with those men and women who have served this great nation.
   We made a commitment in our platform to restore the option for a lifelong pension for veterans, and that is what we will do. Budget 2016 took historic steps getting financial security to veterans and their families by investing $5.6 billion.
   I committed to work with all veterans and stakeholders to make this happen. We will fulfill our mandate commitments to our veterans.

Mr. Alupa Clarke (Beauport—Limoilou, CPC):  
    Mr. Speaker, veterans are sick and tired of hearing the same old story all the time.
   However, it gets worse than that. In mail-outs to the riding of Winnipeg Centre, the Liberals deliberately misled Canadians when they said that they have reinstated lifelong pensions for aging veterans. Such a statement is clearly false. People now expect the Liberals to break promise after promise, but it is a totally different story to directly mislead veterans.
   When will the Liberals begin to tell the truth to our veterans?

Hon. Kent Hehr (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, Lib.):  
   Mr. Speaker, in the election, we made strong commitments to veterans to heal the relationship that was sadly broken under the previous Conservative government over the last 10 years. We made great steps in budget 2016, delivering $5.6 billion in financial security to veterans and their families.
   We will continue to work on our mandate letter, restoring options for a lifelong pension, and building up opportunities for them in education and retraining to see them fit their new normal and get to civilian life in a dignified, refined fashion.
    We will deliver on what we said we would do in the election.

Mrs. Cathay Wagantall (Yorkton—Melville, CPC):  
   Mr. Speaker, veterans are not buying the minister's excuses. Our Conservative government expanded the permanent impairment allowance and created the retirement income security benefit to provide lifetime financial support to injured veterans.
    We struck an agreement with the Equitas Society upon its lawsuit. Now the Liberals have broken their word and have taken the veterans back to court.
    Who made the decision to abandon the previous government's agreement? Was it the Minister of Veterans Affairs or was it the Minister of Justice?

Hon. Kent Hehr (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, Lib.):
    Mr. Speaker, as the member knows full well, the lawsuit started under the previous administration. The Conservatives merely kicked the can down the road for our government to deal with, and that is exactly what we are doing.
   We are delivering on our commitments to veterans. We are going to fulfill our mandate letter, and we are going to return an option for veterans on a lifelong pension.
   I will remind the member that, in budget 2016, we expanded the community impairment access. We expanded opportunities for the earnings loss benefit.
   We are delivering on behalf of veterans and we will continue to do so.

Hon. Erin O'Toole (Durham, CPC):  
   Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has allowed an agreement in the Equitas Society veterans lawsuit to fall apart, and his lawyers are back to attacking veterans.
   The Prime Minister promised to uphold the sacred obligation to our veterans, and his minister quotes this obligation today in the House, yet lawyers this week in Vancouver are denying this sacred obligation.
   When will the Prime Minister and the silent veterans in his caucus finally stand up, take this court case out of circulation, and keep their promises to our Equitas veterans?

Hon. Kent Hehr (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, Lib.):  
   Mr. Speaker, we understand on this side of the House that we do have a sacred obligation to our veterans, and we are doing that daily.
   We are fulfilling our mandate commitments. We are fulfilling our obligations to increase financial security for our veterans and for those who are most severely disabled. We did that in budget 2016, and we are going to continue to work on our mandate items, including an option for a lifetime pension.
    I would ask the member to understand that what he did was merely kick this problem down the road, and we are actually dealing with it at this time.
 
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CTV Question Period / Sacred Obligation To Our Veterans

Post by Guest on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 19:17

The disturbing aspect of all of this our MVA is actually proud an bragging on his Facebook about the way in which his answering questions , asked to him.
We are getting nowhere with him an it's got to the point where he is Ignoring Veterans suggestions or request by Veterans.
He himself thinks his doing an outstanding job an continues to say that there will always be a few Veterans who are not happy with what's transpiring.
The fact of the matter is that the number of unsatisfied Veterans today is huge , even some advocates who stood beside him are changing their views.
Civilians are not happy , the media are not getting their questions answered.
He dug himself into a hole an continues to dig himself deeper.
The media needs to keep the pressure on to show the public what is really going on.
It's time for JT to step in an replace him , even that might not solve the problem , we need someone with leadership qualities who can stand up against those bureaucrats.
Someone who is willing to truly listen to Veterans an pass legislation that reflects fairness for all Veterans.
Again , boycott the MVA , focus mainly on protest , the media an the courts to look after our well being , talking to him is a complete waste of time.

Here is the exchange , try not to get to mad.  

CTV Question Period / Sacred Obligation To Our Veterans

http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=895060


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Post by Teentitan on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 22:11

The only truthful thing he said was that he does not have the authority to put the veteran in the veteran home.

That responsability is with the provincial health minister.

But I did like how he threw NS under the bus. Very smug.

Has anyone else noticed reporters are starting to get really aggravated interviewing him? I thought Fife wanted to reach thru the tv and give a friendly slap up the side of the head. LOL
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Post by Guest on Sun 19 Jun 2016, 22:47

yup cutting off the tail of the snake aint gonna stop it from biting you I suppose . ridicules times call for ridicules measures . I suppose its time for vets orgs and advocates to skip the whole call for the MVA to resign thing its soooo 2015 anyway and go straight to asking for the resignation of the prime minister himself .

NOW would be the perfect time for that . play their game by saying he promised to return ( and this is important ) THE PA PENSION and lied through his teeth . sooo we want him to resign . this relatively small sacrifice would undoubtedly improve the well being of many disabled vets and their families and save a few of those vets lives who have sacrificed so much more .

JT since even with the power of the PMO you cannot live up to your promises we are asking you to help us by stepping aside so maybe someone with the proper abilities can.

ya I know it aint goona happen . if all vets orgs start clamoring for this though it would make a great story for ANY reporter and really sine a huge lite on the subject .

always question authority

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Post by 6608 on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 00:04

Teen, I don’t know why he says he doesn’t have the legislative authority to get a veteran in if he wanted to since VAC seem to control eligibility, waiting lists,payment ect............I would say if anyone has their hands tied it would be the provincial heath minister for those contract beds.


Who is eligible to live at Camp Hill?
Veterans Affairs Canada is responsible for determining who is eligible to live at Camp Hill. A Veteran who served overseas in World War I, World War II or the Korean War is usually eligible.

How to make arrangements for a Veteran to live at Camp Hill?
Veterans Affairs Canada looks after the waiting list for those veterans who are able to come to live at Camp Hill. The Veteran or their family member can call their counsellor directly or call Veterans Affairs Canada at: 1-866-522-2122.


http://www.cdha.nshealth.ca/veterans-services




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Post by bigrex on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 01:16

Hehr was speaking in semantics. He said that he wanted to be very clear, and that "VAC does not own any hospitals!". That is very accurate. But there is a very distinct difference between owning a facility, and being responsible for determining who is eligible for a bed, in one of these facilities. And the VMB is NOT a hospital, and neither are any of the other places that they have Veterans long term care beds. They are long term care facilities, or seniors homes. After all, the provincial governments are not going to have access to a person's military records, to make that determination.
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Post by Teentitan on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 11:48

6608 I hear you but what he said is true. What you posted is for vets where there is an agreement between countries on LTHC. There isn't one with Norway.

Again Rex VAC downloaded LTHC to the provinces in the 90's early 2000's. VAC pays for the bed once the province gives them a bed.

Now that there is an agreement between Norway and Canada for LTHC the vet will have his bed paid for by VAC and VAC will bill Norway. If he's not in Camp Hill yet it might be because the agreement between Canada and Norway isn't official yet.
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Post by Guest on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 12:09

ok thought I had this pretty straight but now I'm a little confused .

teen are you saying if the province gives him the bed DVA would be forced to pay for it ???

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Post by Teentitan on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 12:18

Yes. VAC no longer controls LTHC homes but they pay for a vets bed at a LTHC. It's been like this for the last 15 or so years.

Camp Hill may be called a veteran LTHC but it is not. Whoever owns it, the province or private owner, kept the name.
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Post by Guest on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 12:39

The policies put aside he is a Cabinet Minister , Minister of Veterans Affairs responsible for Veterans , the whole Country is rallying behind getting this Veteran into Camp Hill.
The Minister offered to pay for a regular civilian nursing home which cost much less then Camp Hill , to add to this the Minister knows full well that the waiting list is long for civilian nursing homes in this Veterans area.
So it's a cruel move by our Minister whichever way you look at it , it makes him look weak an unable to make leadership decisions.
What are they going to do to him if he folds an decides to pay the cost of Camp Hill an admits this Veteran into Camp Hill ?
Fire him for looking after the wishes of an elderly Veteran ?
He needs to grow a pair?

Refusal to admit war veteran upsets member of Norwegian parliamentary committee.

June 20, 2016 12:56 pm

A senior member of the Norwegian foreign affairs parliamentary committee says Ottawa’s refusal to admit a 94-year-old to a veteran’s hospital in Halifax is disrespectful to the sailors who fought for the allies in the Second World War.

Christian Tybring-Gjedde, the defence spokesman for the Progress Party, says he plans to bring the case of Petter Blindheim forward to government ministers in the coalition government formed by the ruling Conservatives and his political party.

Tybring-Gjedde says the media and political attention devoted to the Blindheim case has been light so far in Norway, but he expects that may change if the decorated veteran of Norway’s navy and merchant marine doesn’t receive a spot at the hospital.

Blindheim was initially rejected for placement at the Camp Hill Veterans Memorial hospital on the basis that Norway had “surrendered” and members of the Royal Norwegian Navy who continued to fight weren’t considered allied veterans.

Ottawa recanted that position, but then rejected Blindheim – who has been falling and has a broken arm – because it said he could be sent to a provincial facility where Ottawa will still pay his daily costs.

A spokeswoman for the federal minister of Veterans Affairs says that while Ottawa fully funds the care needs of any veteran, including Norwegians, it isn’t always possible to do so in the facility of the veteran’s choosing.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2773865/refusal-to-admit-war-veteran-upsets-member-of-norwegian-parliamentary-committee/?sf29090712=1

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Canada's Treatment Of Petter Blindheim, Elderly Veteran, Upsets Norwegian MP

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Canada's Treatment Of Petter Blindheim, Elderly Veteran, Upsets Norwegian MP.

June 20 , 2016

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HALIFAX — A senior member of the Norwegian foreign affairs parliamentary committee says Ottawa's refusal to admit a 94-year-old to a veteran's hospital in Halifax is disrespectful to the sailors who fought for the allies in the Second World War.

Christian Tybring-Gjedde, the defence spokesman for the Progress Party, says he plans to bring the case of Petter Blindheim forward to government ministers in the coalition government formed by the ruling Conservatives and his political party.

Tybring-Gjedde says the media and political attention devoted to the Blindheim case has been light so far in Norway, but he expects that may change if the decorated veteran of Norway's navy and merchant marine doesn't receive a spot at the hospital.

Blindheim was initially rejected for placement at the Camp Hill Veterans Memorial hospital on the basis that Norway had "surrendered" and members of the Royal Norwegian Navy who continued to fight weren't considered allied veterans.

Ottawa recanted that position, but then rejected Blindheim — who has been falling and has a broken arm — because it said he could be sent to a provincial facility where Ottawa will still pay his daily costs.

Cut through 'all the red tape'

A spokeswoman for the federal minister of Veterans Affairs says that while Ottawa fully funds the care needs of any veteran, including Norwegians, it isn't always possible to do so in the facility of the veteran's choosing.

The family has said there is a lengthy waiting list for provincial homes, and adds that Blindheim would prefer to be with other veterans at the Halifax hospital — which receives a higher daily subsidy than the average provincial nursing home.

Tybring-Gjedde says he's calling on Canadian officials to cut through "all the red tape, immediately reverse the decision and treat Mr. Blindheim with the respect he deserves."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/06/20/refusal-to-admit-war-veteran-upsets-member-of-norwegian-parliamentary-committee_n_10571088.html

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