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Post by Guest on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 18:17

well teen that's interesting . so he should never have asked VAC at all but asked the province instead . someone should let this guy know this and tell mc neil as well . while they are at it tell DVA to stop rejecting people from camp hill when they have no authority to do so.

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Post by Teentitan on Mon 20 Jun 2016, 22:59

Another little tidbit came up which I thought was the issue....money.

It seems Camp Hill costs more then what VAC pays. Now VAC has to keep their ground on this one or else everyone else will freak out and want the same amount.

I am pretty damn certain Hehr and the NS premier talked and it was most likely about money. Unless Camp Hill is privately owned?
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Post by Dannypaj on Tue 21 Jun 2016, 07:03

Ladies and Gentlemen our Worst Minister at the moment is...........

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FL7gl-QSoTI0&h=qAQG3R-03

more to follow....we are not imagining this. we are not in the twilight zone (as NAVRAT would say) this is real. They make up the rules and should be able to change them?
More complicated stuff then one can imagine if even the MVA can not wave a magic wand.
Stop saying we are building Rome! Rome is built, just honour your past warriors to keep Rome (Canada) Strong and Free..
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Lunenburg mayor sides with Norwegian vet barred from Halifax hospital

Post by Guest on Wed 22 Jun 2016, 05:40

Lunenburg mayor sides with Norwegian vet barred from Halifax hospital.

June 21, 2016 - 8:45pm

Petter Blindheim has a new Nova Scotian ally in his battle to be treated with other veterans at Halifax’s Camp Hill Hospital.

Lunenburg Mayor Rachel Bailey has come to the defence of the 94-year-old, who was initially rejected for placement at the Camp Hill Veterans Memorial hospital on the basis that Norway had “surrendered” and members of the Royal Norwegian Navy who continued to fight weren’t considered Allied veterans.

“It’s truly upsetting if this man, a 94-year-old Norwegian veteran, is being challenged as to whether or not he is deserving of care within a place specially created for those who fought for our freedom,” Bailey said.

“I do hope Veterans Affairs officials in Ottawa are able to sort out this situation without further delay,” she said.

The Town of Lunenburg was the home of Camp Norway from 1940-1943. Stranded Norwegian whalers and seamen unable to return home after the Nazi invasion of Norway in 1940 participated in a training camp operated by the Norwegian military, converting whaling vessels to convoy escort ships, then serving active duty at sea, according to a release issued by the town Tuesday.

“Norwegians were not only our allies in the war effort, but they became friends and even family in Lunenburg County during that time … We have a special bond with Norway, forged in wartime when we were working and living side by side,” Bailey said.

Ottawa recanted its initial position, but then rejected Blindheim — who has been falling and has a broken arm — saying he could be sent to a provincial facility where the federal government will still pay his daily costs.

A spokeswoman for the federal minister of veterans affairs said while Ottawa fully funds the care needs of any veteran, including Norwegians, it isn’t always possible to do so in the facility of the veteran’s choosing.

The family has said there is a lengthy waiting list for provincial homes, and adds that Blindheim would prefer to be with other veterans at the Halifax hospital — which receives a higher daily subsidy that the average provincial nursing home.

Blindheim’s case caught the ear of officials in his native land.

A senior member of the Norwegian foreign affairs parliamentary committee said Ottawa’s refusal to admit him to the Halifax hospital is disrespectful to the sailors who fought for the Allies in the Second World War.

Christian Tybring-Gjedde, the defence spokesman for the Progress Party, says he plans to bring the case to government ministers in the coalition government formed by the ruling Conservatives and his political party.

Tybring-Gjedde says he’s calling on Canadian officials to cut through “all the red tape, immediately reverse the decision and treat Mr. Blindheim with the respect he deserves.”

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1374349-lunenburg-mayor-sides-with-norwegian-vet-barred-from-halifax-hospital

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Norwegian vet will be admitted to Camp Hill after all, family told

Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 10:31

Norwegian vet will be admitted to Camp Hill after all, family told.

Petter Blindheim, 94, is in the process of being admitted, says son.

Jun 24, 2016 11:23 AM AT

The family of a decorated Norwegian war veteran says that after months of struggle, Petter Blindheim, 94, will finally be admitted to Camp Hill Memorial Hospital in Halifax.

Peter Blendheim, Blindheim's son, says he met with Halifax MP Andy Fillmore on Friday, who gave him the news in person.

"This is not only going to be a positive outcome for us, it is going to have a positive outcome for Canada," said Blendheim, who was en route to give his parents the good news.

He said his parents are going to be "overwhelmed."

Blindheim is now in the process of being admitted, according to his son.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/norwegian-veteran-petter-blindheim-admitted-camp-hill-1.3650822

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Minister Hehr announces expanded access to Camp Hill for Veterans

Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 11:20

Minister Hehr announces expanded access to Camp Hill for Veterans
KENT HEHR·FRIDAY, JUNE 24, 2016
Ottawa — The Honourable Kent Hehr, Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, issued the following statement:
“Since we became aware of the challenges faced by Veterans in accessing long term care in Nova Scotia, we have been working very closely with Nova Scotia Members of Parliament and the Nova Scotia Health Authority to find a solution that ensures the well-being of our Veterans and of our Allied Veterans.
“Today, I am pleased to announce we have reached a new agreement with the Nova Scotia Health Authority to expand Veterans’ access to beds in the Camp Hill Veterans’ Memorial Building.

“The Veterans Health Care Regulations are not currently compassionate or flexible enough to address the urgent needs of our Veterans, so as we undertake a review to better address long term care needs, this measure will provide the flexibility necessary to help Veterans and their families.
“I wish to thank the Province of Nova Scotia and Nova Scotia Members of Parliament for their hard work and collaboration with us on this solution. It is a truly an important accomplishment for the Veterans.”

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Re: Question Period Alupa Clarke , Cathy Wagantall , Erin O'Toole Tackle Kent Hehr

Post by Dannypaj on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 12:09

Bravo Zulu ! !!
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Post by Dannypaj on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 08:22

Extracted from the Banishe's Website

By Mr. Doug. R

 It’s been a hectic few weeks of ups and downs for many of our Veterans. We observed the minister of VAC do numerous TV interviews and pump out the line of Care Compassion and Respect yet fail to address the denials of care directed at Heroes of the free world as we know it. A shameful display to any man or woman who strapped on a pair of boots to serve our nation. Disrespect in so many ways. This Minister is only a front man with little knowledge of Veterans issues who is relying on his General Uncle Walt (his deputy minister) and his top staff recruited from the insurance industry to guide him through the precarious waters of dealing with people who demand integrity and honesty their word is their bond (Veterans) All the media hype and Bovine Excrement put out by nameless media spin minions failed to quell the fact of the situation. Veteran denied! Not a fall through the cracks but denied common sense good judgement and benefit of doubt not even remotely applied nor considered. Find an obscure rule and deny. A culture within VAC that has been predominate for years if not generations. Then stone wall and tout the very people who commit such despicable acts. The very people who make a living on the blood pain and suffering of our finest citizens. They go to great lengths to silence our voices and ignore our plea of take care of our brothers and sisters injured in service to our country. The next simple fact is it all boils down to money. Bonuses are paid to these bastards to deny care and compensation to Injured Veterans. If we accomplished one thing we made this common knowledge in public form. MP's were made aware and yes I think they were unaware for the most part believing that things were moving forward. The crew at the top will know with much egg on their face wait us out and go to great lengths to again confuse the issues with steak holder meetings and bovine excrement in hope that this too shall pass and back to business as usual. Not so we have demonstrated that we as Veterans can find our voices in Word, Deed and Action. Standing up shoulder to shoulder using our talents to put pressure on our elected officials to change this system. It’s time for a clean sweep and heads should roll. Let’s encourage our brothers and sisters to stand tall and proud and to effectively make them change. The hell with politics and organizations that bastardize our message of frustration and despair. We will speak out we will write our MP's Ministers and Prime Minister and we will prevail. We have brothers back in court fighting to make government bureaucrats to accept their responsibility to all those who serve or have served. Again denial disrespect. This has to cease and the culture of deny has to end. We as Veterans cannot lay down and let this continue write, speak, and engage those that we Voted in they will respond. Let’s keep looking out for each other we are all that will. VAC Minister Hehr change that spiel to Action Care Compassion and Respect and deal with us in an honest fashion cut the bovine excrement.


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And I thought I was alone in my struggles with VAC.
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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 13:10

I hear what Doug is saying, I think we all do but at this point I don't think writing your MP,Minister, or the PM is going to solve anything. Remember we did this for 10 years and nothing. The senate committee raised questions/concerns, both oppositions raised questions/concerns and nothing. Veterans raised questions/concerns and nothing. Our file is being worked on by bureaucrats and our Minister is behind them 100%. Our Minister is proud of what he says his government has accomplished thus far, one just has to watch his interviews to validate this. By any rights in his own mind he believes it's just a hand full of Veterans that are disappointed even though his facebook page is loaded with backlash, backlash on a daily basis. He is a junior who will someday realize his mistake of fallen into the bureaucratic trap. There was a lot of public pressure brought forward with regards to the failure of admittance into Camp Hill. However he folded and allowed the admittance to occur, further to this he is going to do a complete overhaul to ensure the fairness in this situation continues going forward. I think it's important to note that this complete turn-around shows us all that it is possible for us all to have ourselves heard and have action done the way Veterans want, not the bureaucrats.
We can continue the status quo and continue to write our MP's and hope the future stakeholder meetings provide positive action on our file, but the reality is that this is highly unlikely seeing the way our Minister has sided with the bureaucrats, and not the Veterans. In my own opinion I think the PM jumped in and ordered our Minister to take proactive action now in the case of Camp Hill. To add to this I believe it was the public protest along with of course the many opinions brought forward by the media, but in my opinion it was the public protest that was the braking point. Our PM does not like it when Veterans are publicly protesting, public protest is free from the bureaucratic Machine, this is where Veterans can speak their mind to all Canadians without the interference from bureaucrats. So perhaps moving forward the focus should be on public protest, and not so much on stakeholder meetings.

Something to read from the OTTAWA CITIZEN EDITORIAL BOARD.

June 27, 2016 6:00 AM EDT

Start treating all veterans as equals

Recent media reports have highlighted the plight of 90+ year-old Second World War veterans being turned away from the Camp Hill Veterans Hospital, underscoring the failing of Veterans Affairs Canada to assist these veterans in obtaining access to much-needed care.

A much larger issue also exists: that of access to long-term care for the modern-day veteran (1953-present) and the arbitrary cut-off legislated in the Pension Act, which denies these veterans access to the same range of services that are afforded their Second World War and Korean War counterparts. This is discriminatory.

Successive governments have “institutionalized discrimination” based upon “era of service.” The modern-day veteran is being treated as second-class. The government, through its inaction in bringing forth legislation and policies which would address this “denial of access” is complicit in perpetuating a system that does not treat all veterans equally and equitably.

It boils down to the government acknowledging that “a veteran is a veteran.” That their blood, sweat, toil, efforts and sacrifices are deemed to not be of equal value is not only wrong, it is also morally repugnant.

Gordon Jenkins, CD (Ret’d), President, NATO Veterans Organization of Canada

http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/letters/your-letters-for-monday-june-27-nukes-arent-normal

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Post by pinger on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 14:07

Good post from Banished Veterans (?) Danny. If that's the site where is it, lemme know.
Tried to find it but found some sort of USA version instead.

Anyway jmo, but a pen and a letter can still be very effective Trooper. Just call it ONE tool in the... "toolbox".
Take a letter of petition with thousand of names (including opposition politicians and the who's of who).
Mail it to the powers that be, AND THEN... YOU C.C. IT TO EVERY MEDIA OUTLET IN THE COUNTRY.
Or even outside, which reminds me of that Norwegian politician.

Something else I'm extremely curious about though. WHO ultimately reversed Petter Blindheim's
denial? Who put the hammer down?

Now it's still June. But... I feel our MVA will be gone before years end next Feb. tops.
Hell I was 3 days out on fantino. Eureka! I just found my new career transition... a Bookie lol!
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Post by Teentitan on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 15:00

Pinger my prop bet is Hehr doesn't see Sept 15 as MVA.....anddddd McCrimmon is his replacement.
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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 15:28

you are right pinger and when he says "The hell with politics and organizations that bastardize our message of frustration and despair" he aint talkin about committees or steak holder meetings or anything we have every done before AT ALL. he wants what I want ACTUAL VETERANS THEMSELVES righting their MP, protesting and speaking out to the press and to hell with the orgs and their stakeholder meetings because I'm telling ya their would probably some stuff coming out of these freaks mouths that would never pass through ANY of our lips kinda got one specific org in my head on that but I'm sure others as well . and he want us all doing this EACH AND EVERY vet .

have never seen that before and not likely to but it would be nice to see and I cant think of a better time .

getter done .

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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 15:34

teen a big yupper on that . IF it happens that is I'm 50-50 on that . but ya the date and especially the replacement had her pegged for the job prior to the initial selection .

WTF 2 times a charm lol .

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Post by Guest on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 15:53

Pinger Banished Veterans Facebook: https://fr-fr.facebook.com/groups/1451658385158523/

The only way in my opinion the PM will move or relieve our MVA from his position is if public protest increase to a point where the PM will have no other choice.

As it stands now our MVA has worked on 6 out of the 15 promises from his mandate letter.
Come this Oct when many NCM's who were released prior to the pay increases see their 5% or less the shyte is going to hit the fan, but guess what, it will be too late to change it then and in the PM's eyes he will just see it as a promise completed.
The politicians get's away again.
Come next April when those retro cheques start to arrive and Veterans see a flat rate of $11000 for a past 25% award, again Veterans will not be overly excited about this, but again in the PM's eyes he will see it as another promise completed.
That's all our MVA needs to do, he just needs to continue saying that he has the best interest for all Veterans and their families front and center. You can continue to write all the letters you want, you can continue to hold stakeholder meetings, but at the end of the day, what exactly did you accomplish? You see accomplishing something means more than words, in order to accomplish something, you need action, action of the requested dialogue/interchange. If one feels that they have accomplished something by being promised something their fooling themselves, the promise needs to be fulfill to the peoples request.

Today one just has to look at our MVS's facebook and see that he is comfortable with himself, his staff, as long as he continues to do and say what he does, he will continue in that position, he knows this, it's a political game that Veterans need to adjust to, the writing of letters and the meetings has not worked, we need to change our tactics.

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Post by Ex Member on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 16:16

well not sure who is calling for more meetings judging by this quote "   The crew at the top will know with much egg on their face wait us out and go to great lengths to again confuse the issues with steak holder meetings and bovine excrement in hope that this too shall pass and back to business as usual."

it aint doug and it sure the frack aint me .

righting letters that does in fact work the more the better ya see each one is a vote . and all these guys care about is money and votes .

EVERY SINGLE VET righting WILL make a difference this I know because you are all votes . every time someone tells don't bother righting , voting or voicing your opinion because you aint gonna change anything . well boys that's the time to double down because chances are they are saying that because people are feeling the pressure and just want you and yours to shut the frack up .

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