Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

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Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by Trooper on Wed 17 Aug 2016, 14:36

Here's something that I will provide that may shed some light on the answer, it is what has previously transpired when changes were made to the ELB which ultimately led to SISIP following suit.

Enhancements to the CF LTD

In line with the New Veterans Charter enhancements announced on 6 October, 2011, Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC) implemented enhancements to its Earnings Loss Benefit (ELB) program for disabled Veterans. †Subsequently, the Government of Canada (GoC) recognized that some SISIP LTD clients who left the Canadian Forces when military salaries were much lower than they are today would end up receiving less income support than their peers under the enhanced VAC administered ELB. †As such, the Minister of National Defence announced on April 10, 2012 the investment of nearly $113M in FY11/12 to increase the minimum income support for current in-claim SISIP LTD clients.

Since the VAC ELB and CF LTD are intended to mirror each other, this announcement addressed the need to align these two income support programs to ensure that all clients would receive the same benefits under their respective programs.

The enhancements to the CF LTD program allow for an increase to the minimum gross monthly benefit, raising the minimum benefit calculation to 75% of the basic salary rate of a Corporal, which is currently $4,554/month. Previously, the minimum benefit calculation was based on the salary rate of a senior private. In addition, the minimum benefit for the Primary Reserve Force members on short-term class of service who are medically released, or who take a voluntary release but qualify as being totally disabled has increased to 75% of the deemed salary of $2700/month from the previously used $2000/month rate.

The enhanced CF LTD program translates into a minimum pre-tax income of $40,000 a year. Although taxable, during the first year that a CF member becomes a claimant, all the CF LTD premiums paid during a memberís military career can be deducted for tax purposes. Changes to the CF LTD program will not impact the premiums paid by insured CF members.

Under the enhancements to the CF LTD income replacement benefits, up to 2000 beneficiaries will receive compensation retroactive to 3 October 2011.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/news/article.page?doc=enhancements-to-the-canadian-forces-long-term-disability-income-replacement-benefits/hgq87xuz

As you can see the timeline for SISIP to follow suit is a little over 6 Months. 6 October, 2011 (implementation) Veterans Affairs Canada and April 10, 2012 for SISIP.

Also an interesting point to look at is the fact that they state that VAC ELB and CF LTD are intended to (mirror) each other, this announcement addressed the need to align these two income support programs to ensure that all clients would receive the same benefits under their respective programs.

Another point of interest concerns the set minimum: The enhancements to the CF LTD program allow for an increase to the minimum gross monthly benefit, raising the minimum benefit calculation to 75% of the basic salary rate of a Corporal, which is currently $4,554/month. Previously, the minimum benefit calculation was based on the salary rate of a senior private.

So now VAC has reversed †the basic salary rate of a Corporal, back to a senior private and added the 15% increase.

Hopefully this post will better explain what will probably happen with SISIP, concerning the 15% increase.

Also gives you a better Idea of what they mean by the minimum set rate and how some Veterans will only see 5% or less of the 15% increase.
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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by LawnBoy77777 on Thu 18 Aug 2016, 11:21

My bet is they will give 15% Earnings capacity Loss Benefit (ELB) to "top up" (another word for clawback) SISIP LTD, like they did last year for Res F vets.

They didn't do that for me yet

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ELB increase to 90% effective 1st Oct VS Sisip LTD

Post by Guest on Tue 23 Aug 2016, 15:03

Does anyone know when you call Sisip ltd if they will match this increase? Before i call i was hoping some else has made this call.

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Post by 1993firebird on Tue 23 Aug 2016, 15:05

In October.

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Post by 1993firebird on Tue 23 Aug 2016, 15:05

Call middle of September.

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Post by Guest on Tue 23 Aug 2016, 15:10

Why do i call mid September?

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Post by Rifleman on Tue 23 Aug 2016, 16:56

These frAcking morons will not tell you anything I've called on numerous occasions and still no answers

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Post by 1993firebird on Tue 23 Aug 2016, 16:56

Because the increase to ELB starts in October so SISIP should know by mid September.

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Post by bigrex on Tue 23 Aug 2016, 17:36

I think that they will be making some kind of announcement, near the end of Sept to Oct 1st, to officially announce the ELB/SISIP change and maximize the press coverage, showing how the Liberals are taking care of Veterans. But until they make that public announcement, they will likely not be able to say anything.
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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 09:57

Just read this

Michael Blais
22 August at 20:17 ∑

Prepare for battle!

At this moment, SISIP IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE EQUATION reference the October 1st date.

Canada's most seriously wounded warriors have been abandoned...

We have engaged!

More to follow

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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 10:37

apply apply apply !!!!!!! when all your appeals are done apply again lol.

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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by Trooper on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 10:38

If you read the first post of this topic, posted by myself you can get a better understanding of why were not hearing anything from SISIP on the 15% increase. SISIP and the ELB fall under different government depts, ELB falls under VAC where SISIP falls under the CDS where the funds are allocated from the treasury board. This is the reason why we have yet to hear from SISIP. I have no doubts that SISIP will follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB, SISIP mirrors the ELB and as per my first post in this topic you can see from what I have provided SISIP has followed VAC's actions regarding the ELB in the past, so I have no doubts about SISIP continuing to follow VAC's actions on the ELB.

Look for an announcement on this from SISIP, April 2017, OR sooner. Also look for SISIP announcing retroactively payments of the 15% increase, back to Oct 01, 2016.
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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 10:49

I bet Micheal Blais will have a answer within 3 weeks ...He hangs out with the top dogs ....Is he a CSAT member? We need him reporting in here too!

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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 10:55

If this is the case Trooper and i agree its a plausible why not a senior member such as the MVA or the TB commenting....Us guessing or assuming ....ass-u-me ...... Smile

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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 11:00

trooper there is absolutely no reason the GOC cannot announce an intended change . they could have announced it when they announced the ELB change .

will they change it ??? ya I do ASSUME they will but I have no hard evidence whatsoever to prove it .

everything I believed I qualified for I applied for whether it helped me financially or not .

still hoping for the best but was planning for the worse .

ive said years ago apply apply apply and I will keep saying it because I believe it to be the smart thing to do.

will applying help you in any way ??? its possible .

will it hurt ??? not at all.

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