Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

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Post by K9 on Tue 20 Sep 2016, 23:16

Yes Elgin, no letter.
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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by bigrex on Tue 20 Sep 2016, 23:19

One question I have is, will this top up cease when SISIP ends? Because if you are on SISIP already, your SISIP could be cut off before even getting approved, or even accepted as a VAC client.
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Post by Guest on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 11:30

Is sisip ending ? Is this just a rumor?

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Post by 1sea0shell33 on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 13:29

My friend . All things have an Alpha and Omega, a beginning and an end. Hopefully the day insurance companies run government programs are also coming to an end.

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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by Ex Member on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 20:22

Just read on Facebook page of the Sisip Class Action Lawsuit the following quotes regarding the ELB increase.

"Those jerks, SISIP vets have to apply 2x to get the same benefit as VAC vets with 1 application" followed by another person's response "yes that was explained to me 1 hr ago by VAC".


Then another post asks "so my husband is completely under the old charter, monthly payments, DND pension, CPPD and Sisip. Does this ELB increase  totally exclude him now, or does he start over applying for this 12 years later".

Someone answered with the following response "I am in the same boat, he will need to apply".

So can anyone explain what this may means? Does it mean if someone is on LTD that they have to apply for the increase by reapplying for ELB and back to square one again? What if you are on EELB do you have to reapply for ELB again?

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Post by 1sea0shell33 on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 20:39

Right from your centre of intell! Back from the legion and was told if you are getting the guarantee minimum 46 thousand then no increase for you!

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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by Ex Member on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 20:48

Wow seashell that is a game changer.   
In the letter from DVA it states:
increasing the Earnings Loss Benefit  from 75% to 90% of recipient's adjusted military salary at the time of release, resulting in a minimum total annual income of $44,496.00 including income from other sources.
So if the minimum total annual income of  $44,496.00 is a capped amount then that changes many people's scenario's. The letter from DVA is misleading then because it should have stated a maximum total income of $44,496.00 not minimum.

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Post by bigrex on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 21:41

If you are not getting the minimum ELB now, you will not be getting the minimum after next month. Even if you were getting $43000, just above the minimum, the new equations would put you at over $51000. The only people who will be stuck at the minimum will be those whose 90% of pre-release pay is still less than $44500. So even if someone has been on ELB, and their 75% mark was say only $40000, and have been receiving the top up, 90% of that same pre-release salary is $48000, so that person should get a $6000 per year increase.
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Post by Ex Member on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 21:50

Sorry bigrex but what you just wrote went way over my head.
What do you make of the facebook page that says those on LTD have to reapply for ELB?

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Post by bigrex on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 22:25

I'm not sure what facebook page you are referring to, but VAC has stated that anyone on extended SISIP, who has already been deemed TPI and approved for EELB, would receive the increase from ELB. Now, If you had been on short term ELB, at some point since 2006, or were denied ELB, you would have to reapply in order to get the top up.
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Post by Ex Member on Sun 25 Sep 2016, 22:28

Thanks bigrex. It was on the  Sisip Class Action Lawsuit Facebook page.

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Post by bigrex on Mon 26 Sep 2016, 07:01

Ok, I think what they are talking about is by applying 2x, is they had to apply for SISIP, and now being told they have to apply for ELB, versus those who only applied for ELB. They are under the impression that if you are on SISIP, that ELB should automatically give you the top up, which just isn't going to happen. The best they can hope for is that their applications get fast tracked, by skipping the need to be approved for the rehab program, or be deemed TPI.
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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by Guest on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 16:36

Trying to make sense of the ELB increase.
I am EELB and on LTD presently. Will I be entitled to the  ELB increase? If I am entitled, what deductions will DVA be asking about in the form letter next month? I receive CppD, LTD, PIA and DVA monthly (receive no military pension). Wondering which of those  amounts are taken into account when doing the ELB increase calculations. I was med released 2006 as a 1st year Cpl so don't know about the minimum base amount that is being discussed above and how it may affect me. I did receive the DVA letter regarding the ELB increase.
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Post by Guest on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 18:18

ya cdn vet you will be entitled to the increase not having the 2006 pay tables on hand its really hard to say with complete certainty if the minimum amount will effect you due to pay raises in 09 retroed to 08 and another I believe in 2013 I'm guessing it will but what the effect will be I cant honestly say without those pay rates .

out of the incomes you listed CPPD and LTD are the ones they will deduct .

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Re: Will SISIP follow VAC's 15% increase to the ELB?

Post by bigrex on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 18:20

If you are not currently getting the minimum, then you are not going to get it after next month. So now you will get the same amount from SISIP, 15% from ELB, CPP(D), PIA and your PA pension.
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