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VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 05:41

Veterans Affairs Canada Stakeholder Summit, to be held on Wednesday, October
5 and Thursday, October 6, 2016 (half day only), at the Hilton Lac Leamy
Hotel, 3 Boulevard du Casino, Gatineau, Quebec.

VVi has been invited to attend this summit, VVi has accepted the invitation, VVi's Chief Editor will be attending the summit.

More details such as the agenda of the summit as well as other new info will be posted as they become available.

CSAT will of course monitor the summit and post what is available for info and discussion.

Regarding members who wish to post their questions or concerns to our Chief Editor surrounding the summit itself, and points they feel should be noted or raised at the summit, please post them in this topic for our Chief Editor to read and review.

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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 10:45

the GOC in 2006 decided to change an aprox 2.4 million dollar pain and suffering benefit and a aprox 1.6 million dollar death benefit to a $250,000 buyout. that's not the numbers for the single moderately disabled nooo that's for the most seriously disabled with families to feed . this dissension needs to be reversed !

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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 13:17

Originally posted in another topic by johnny211 on Mon 22 Aug 2016, 19:04

Trooper - It is unfortunate that the mtgs are like some top secret club, where only a select gp has all the info, and controls it. They want to hear our concerns, then tell us to sit down and listen to their way. If I could ask to have a couple of things brought up.
1. PIA/CIA - Will it remain at 3 levels? And how will one be assessed for these levels?
2. FCRB - There now exits a gray area for this policy. Ie; A PA Vet, who has been diagnosed with PTSD after 2006, are told that due to being under the PA, they are denied the FCRB, and told to apply for the AA. Numerous Vets have then applied for the AA as told, but then where turned down as the AA, is more aligned for Vets needing physical assistance and not mental. So something has to change here. Why in relation to FCRB is a vet with mental issues different if he is pre or post 2006.

Of the top of my head those are two that I know a lot of my vet friends would like answers too and changes. Tks, VVV...

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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by johnny211 on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 16:19

Ha, thanks Trooper for putting my post and ? for the meeting on here. Not sure if you will get an answer, but worth a try.. VVV
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Admin's remarks

Post by Guest on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 15:23

Admin's remarks ;

Sept 12, 2016

SHARE TO ANY AND ALL VETERANS! WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
This is an important read for all wounded and disabled veterans.
Full transparency is required all meetings be they advisory groups or stakeholder meetings. A record of minutes should be made immediately available, in both written and video.
The lack of transparency is what doomed the current generation of veterans that now fall under the NVC. Don't let this happen again!

Questions raised about who is advising Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr.

April 13, 2016

Sean Bruyea

Defence Watch Guest Writer

This past week, a ministerial advisory group met under highly surreptitious circumstances. Identity of members, their credentials, agendas, minutes, remuneration, confidentiality clauses and nomination process are all concealed as if this were a CSIS operation. Sadly, veterans whose future is affected by such meetings have been widely excluded.

Veterans Affairs and Associate Defence Minister Kent Hehr and his department have applied this template to five more advisory groups and to the closed-door discussions with the class-action lawsuit, Equitas. I have learned that most participants have been notified. Nevertheless, in an email to me on the eve of the first meeting of the policy group, the Department audaciously claims, “membership in these groups is still being finalized and will be made public in the coming weeks.”

Secrecy reflexively defended with misinformation is the Veterans Affairs way of doing things over the past decade. Nothing has apparently changed under the new Liberal government.

Yet this is not what Prime Minister Trudeau promised. In a welcome breaking of precedent, cabinet ministers’ mandate letters were made public. They are an inspiration of open and accountable government. “It is time to shine more light on government to ensure it remains focused on the people it serves. Government and its information should be open by default,” the mandate letter stresses.

Even under the Conservatives, almost every other federal department established advisory groups which often seek public nominations of individuals with an expertise in the relevant area. Advisory groups to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs hold open hearings, accepting public input. The Ottawa Police Board holds monthly public meetings during which the public may express their “needs, concerns and priorities.” Isn’t such openness and transparency the bare minimum to ensure government “remains focused upon the people it serves”?

Unlike post-World War II, current Veterans Affairs programs predominantly serve only injured and disabled veterans.

Yet, Hehr has included individuals who are neither disabled nor departmental clients. The usual suspects continue to participate after being complicit in the current mess. Many come from organizations that refuse to divulge their membership numbers. Three of the veteran organizations combined have 500 members or less. They provide no evidence that any of their membership is disabled. Others have no membership and no expertise in the group they sit on.

Yet they are included with a sycophancy to government as Perry Gray of VeteranVoice.info described to me during a recent telephone conversation, “they’ll do anything government wants because the policies and programs don’t affect them.”

We do know that Canada’s second largest veterans’ organization with 7,800 verifiable veteran members, VeteransCanada(.ca), is excluded from the minister’s secretive groups. Its national president, Don Leonardo, is a registered lobbyist, a veteran representative who has followed the open and accountable government rules. Further excluded are VeteranVoice.info and its sister community, Canadian Soldier Assistance Team (CSAT). The CSAT community has 900 registered members sharing information and support on dealing with their injuries an average of 4,500 instances per month.

Along with Don Leonardo, excluded are Perry Gray, Harold Leduc and Wayne Johnston, injured veterans with some of the most recognized and respected expertise in injured veterans’ policy and programs. They are also the A-list of individuals who, along with me, have had their psychological injuries involuntarily or voluntarily disclosed. Senior Veterans Affairs bureaucrats and non-injured veterans have long stigmatized and misunderstood those with injuries, especially the psychological kind.

Is Hehr falling victim to prejudice against psychologically injured veterans?

Imagine white burly male lumberjacks secretly meeting to advise the government of Canada on the status of aboriginal women. Absurd, yes? Veteran status does not confer insight into disabled veterans. It’s quite the opposite. Military culture has been and continues to be grossly insensitive to the injured, particularly the psychologically wounded. The veteran community is rife with malicious attacks on the wounded when they speak out. Yet speaking out is precisely what is needed for change to occur, including in the compassion-challenged senior bureaucratic culture at Veterans Affairs. Processes to create programs are as important as the programs themselves.

There is nothing about veterans that requires secrecy other than their personal files. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s mandate letter emphasizes “inclusion, honesty…and generosity of spirit Thus far, Hehr’s first steps with his advisory groups has been anything but. Secrecy, insensitivity, and exclusion would be an apt de facto mission statement for Veterans Affairs Canada. Let’s hope this does not become the Liberal legacy.

Sean Bruyea is a retired Air Force intelligence officer and frequent commentator on veterans’ issues.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/questions-raised-about-who-is-advising-veterans-affairs-minister-kent-hehr

Admin's remarks: Next Stakeholder Mtg

Sept 12, 2016

My comment circulating on FB and Twitter:

The vet community, first and foremost must insist that all mtgs with veterans are open, transparent before any discussions begin. This should be the first item on the agenda for the 05-06 Oct 16 Stakeholder mtg. VVi will be in attendance and this will be one of our first talking points. I would as far as to suggest that if VAC will not open the mtg and enforces non-disclosure, the vet participants must, in unity, walk out of the mtg.

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Oct 5, 2016 Stakeholder Summit live on Facebook

Post by Guest on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 06:47

Oct 5, 2016 Stakeholder Summit live on Facebook.

Join Minister Hehr live on Facebook as he kicks off the Stakeholder Summit on Wednesday, October 5 @ 9am ET

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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by Dannypaj on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 08:05

Now that's transparency!
Thanks C.J for initiating this to occur (or whoever in the upper echlons had the common sense to use current technology to keep us all informed, speacialy when protest are taking place and involving Canadian Veterans).
It'll be interesting to watch the stakeholder summit and see what happens behind the closed door summit (like being a fly on the wall).
Nothing but the best for our Vets.
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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by BinRat on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 15:43

Will there be a link for people whom don't or wont ever subscribe to facebook so we can watch the conference by chance..

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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by Teentitan on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 15:50

If the live on facebook is like the last one don't get your hopes too high. All he said was mandate letter, blah blah, mandate letter. 30 minutes of pablum no info
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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by Guest on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 18:06

Yes, CSAT will do it's best to provide live stream of the summit.

Walt will not be attending this summit, so I'm told.

I haven't gotten an agenda yet.

If our Chief Editor records at the summit, I'm sure we will post those recordings on CSAT also.

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STAKEHOLDER SUMMIT October 5 - 6, 2016 AGENDA

Post by Guest on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 05:45

STAKEHOLDER SUMMIT October 5 - 6, 2016 AGENDA.


AGENDA – DAY 1


0830 – 0850
Coffee/Meet and Greet
All

0850 – 0900
Group Photo
All

0900 – 0905
Welcome and Introduction/Moment of Silence for the Fallen
Karen Ellis, Associate Deputy Minister and Acting Deputy Minister, Veterans Affairs Canada

0905 – 0910
Algonquin Blessing Aurel Dubé, Sergeant at Arms, Aboriginal Veterans Autochtones


0910 – 0912
Introduction of Minister
Karen McCrimmon,
Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Veterans Affairs

0912 – 0930
Introductory Address
The Honourable Kent Hehr,
Minister of Veterans Affairs

0930 – 0945
“Have Your Say” – What we have been hearing
Bernard J. Butler,
Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and Commemoration, Veterans Affairs Canada

0945 – 0950
Veterans Ombudsman’s Remarks
Guy Parent, Veterans Ombudsman

0950 – 1015
Introduction to computerized voting technology:
Test Questions & Summit Demographic Profile by computerized voting technology
All



1015 – 1030
Health Break



1030 – 1045
From Idea to Implementation: Stakeholders’ Role in Policy and Program Development
Sue Foster,
Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Oversight and Communications, Veterans Affairs Canada

1045 – 1055
Introduction to Ministerial Advisory Groups: Status Reports and Discussion
Karen McCrimmon,
Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Veterans Affairs

1055 – 1140
Ministerial Advisory Groups: Status Reports & Discussion
Commemoration Advisory Group Co-chairs


1140 – 1210
Ministerial Advisory Groups: Status Reports & Discussion
Care and Support Advisory Group Co-chairs


1210 – 1315
Lunch Guest Speaker - Gen Jonathan Vance,
Chief of the Defence Staff, Canadian Armed Forces



1315 – 1400
Ministerial Advisory Groups: Status Reports & Discussion
Service Excellence Advisory Group Co-chairs


1400 – 1445
Ministerial Advisory Groups: Status Reports & Discussion
Families Advisory Group Co-chairs


1445 – 1510
Health Break

1510 – 1630
Ministerial Advisory Groups: Status Reports & Discussion
Policy Advisory Group Co-chairs


1630 – 1645
Day 1 Wrap-up
Karen Ellis, Associate Deputy Minister and Acting Deputy Minister, Veterans Affairs Canada

1645 – 1800
Reception (in Foyer B)


AGENDA – DAY 2


0800 – 0850
Optional Session: My VAC Account Focus Group
Charlotte Bastien, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Service Delivery, Veterans Affairs Canada

0830 – 0855
Coffee/Meet and Greet
All

0855 – 0900
Welcome to Day 2
Karen Ellis, Associate Deputy Minister and Acting Deputy Minister, Veterans Affairs Canada

0900 – 0945
Ministerial Advisory Groups: Status Reports & Discussion
Mental Health Advisory Group Co-chairs


0945 – 1030
Questions on Veterans’ Issues: by computerized voting technology
All

1030 – 1045
Health Break


1045 – 1210
Questions on Veterans’ Issues: by computerized voting technology (continued)
All

1210 – 1220
Summit Evaluation via computerized voting technology
All

1220 – 1230
Chief Military Personnel Remarks
Major General Wayne Eyre, Deputy Chief of Military Personnel

1230 – 1240
Summit Closing
The Honourable Kent Hehr,
Minister of Veterans Affairs

1240 –1242
O Canada
All

1242 – 1345
Lunch


1250 – 1330
Optional Event: Feedback session on draft document Programs and Services Available to Veterans, Their Families and Communities.
Charlotte Bastien, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Service Delivery, Veterans Affairs Canada

1400 – 1500
Optional Event: Facebook Live Event
The Honourable Kent Hehr,
Minister of Veterans Affairs

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VVi's Chief Editor Response to VAC on the Agenda

Post by Guest on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 06:30

VVi's Chief Editor Response to VAC on the Agenda .

Here is an email sent to Karen Ellis of VAC from our Chief Editor on the Summit Agenda;

Once again the agenda is devoid of stakeholder content. You are using the summit to promote your agenda rather than that of the Veterans. This is highlighted by the introduction of a new subject without any explanation of what it is:

Introduction to computerized voting technology

Are Veterans supposed to be impressed by your continued disregard of our issues?

There are no stakeholders included as speakers. Why not?

Why has a summary of each advisory group not be distributed so that we can review their activities and be prepared to discuss our impressions of their work and what needs to be done in the future?

If this is the best that you can do, why are you part of VAC? You certainly have shown a misunderstanding of the "care, compassion and respect" that has become the unofficial slogan of VAC.

Instead you expect the stakeholders to sit quietly like bobbleheads and just nod at every insincere announcement.

Try earning our respect rather than insulting our intelligence!

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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by pinger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 13:44

Is this Stakeholders meeting in Ottawa come the Oct. 5 - 6 ?
Because I can't think of a better place for the Oct the 4th protest than a stakeholders meeting.

Just a very polite perimeter mind you...

Your response to Karen is refreshing to read CJ
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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by Guest on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 14:51

Pinger,

Yes, we are talking about next Weeks stakeholder summit.

The summit is being held in Quebec.

The Chief Editor of VVi  is Perry Gray, He is the person who is attending this summit, he is also the person who sent the email to Karen Ellis.
What Perry is saying to VAC is that their not fooling him with this Oct 5-6 summit agenda, the agenda is proof that these stakeholder meetings are to promote their own interest and not the interest of Veterans. It's also in my opinion proof that they use these stakeholder summits as PR to give the perception that the government is being proactive in engaging with the Veterans of this Country. Perry is not afraid to confront them, he is not afraid to stand up for he's fellow Veterans. If there were more like him, things would certainly change regarding these advisory groups and stakeholder meetings. I for one applaud Perry for the way he is handling these issues, he calls it, as he sees it, we need more like him!
Perry's username on the forum is, VVice.

CJ is the founder of VVi and CSAT, he is not attending this summit.
CJ's username on the forum is, Admin.

Regarding the Oct 4th protest, Mike Blais is taking the lead on this, he is the one that came up with the Idea. Mike's Idea spread across the Country in a way that others have came forward to want to protest in their own area, those who could not make it to Ottawa. As of today, the protest message has become slow in respect of communicating the message, last I checked for the Ottawa protest there's 58 interested and 15 attending. I am waiting for more info on the protest. LawnBoy is suppose to be protesting in NFL, haven't heard much more on that either. Wait and see, I guess.

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Re: VAC Stakeholder Summit Oct 5-6, 2016

Post by pinger on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 15:29

Trooper. Do you have info on that Quebec location. Precisely where / when and what city?

Because that 5th is next Wednesday and the 4th is before it. Wakey Wakey all, if you can.
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