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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 19:08

registered disability savings plan . if you get the DTC you can use it . ya put money in say 1,500 and the GOC will put in money as well . see the amounts above . generally it will need to sit in the plan for 10 years before you can draw your money and the GOC,s as well . if you take it out prior you can loose the money the GOC put in .

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Post by Panserbjørn on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 19:14

propat wrote:actually the numbers I gave you were for the grant . I didn't include the bond so they may poney up even more for that without any additional contribution from you .

could be an extra thousand if you make 26,021 or less . or a part of that 1,000 if your income is between $26,021 and $44,701.

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I didn't realise the grant was so high, definitely feels like something I should be taking advantage of.

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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 19:20

I sat on it for months buds studying it and studying it . why ????? because it fell under the category of too good to be true .

been doing it since 08 . its the real deal .

as far as I'm concerned a no brainer .

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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 19:21

firebird its age sensitive buds for those 49 or younger .

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Post by Panserbjørn on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 19:26

1993firebird wrote:OK , I need info on this RDSP. I get CPPD and I believe my application for DTC will be approved and my reasons on the application go back to 2000 so I am not sure how many years they will backdate. But what is this matching all about and what is this RDSP for?

The DTC will backdate ten years(For when the DTC is backdated too, generally when the disability started) of adjustments to your taxes. Giving you a large sum of money (I received roughly 2k a year).

As for the matching for RDSP, other than an RRSP the government of canada will match your contributions to the RDSP 3:1 for the first $500 and then 2:1 for the next $1000.


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Post by 6608 on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 19:29

Panserbjørn, 1993firebird, here are the numbers below.There is however annual maximum on the grant of 10,500. This is a very good plan that all eligible persons below 49 should take advantage of.

Canada disability savings grant
The grant is an amount that the Government of Canada contributes to a registered disability savings plan (RDSP). The Government will pay matching grants of 300%, 200%, or 100%, depending on the beneficiary’s family income and the amount contributed.

An RDSP can get a maximum of $3,500 in matching grants in one year, and up to $70,000 over the beneficiary’s lifetime. A beneficiary's RDSP can receive a grant on contributions made untilDecember 31 of the year in which the beneficiary turns 49.
The amount of the grant is based on the beneficiary’s family income. The beneficiary family income thresholds are indexed each year to inflation. The income thresholds for 2015 are as follows:
Amount of CDSG grant when family income is $89,401 or less:
on the first $500 contribution—$3 grant for every dollar contributed, up to $1,500 a year.
on the next $1,000 contribution—$2 grant for every dollar contributed, up to $2,000 a year.
Amount of CDSG grant when family income is more than $89,401:
on the first $1,000 contribution—$1 grant for every dollar contributed, up to $1,000 a year.





Canada disability savings bond
The bond is an amount paid by the Government of Canada directly into an RDSP. The Government will pay bonds of up to $1,000 a year to low-income Canadians with disabilities. No contributions have to be made to get the bond. The lifetime bond limit is $20,000. A bond can be paid into an RDSP until the year in which the beneficiary becomes 49 years of age.
The amount of the bond is based on the beneficiary’s family income. The beneficiary family income thresholds are indexed each year to inflation. The income thresholds for 2015 are as follows:
$26,021 or less (or if the holder is a public institution), the bond is $1,000;
between $26,021 and $44,701, part of the $1,000 is based on the formula in the Canada Disability Savings Act;
more than $44,701, no bond is paid.


Before the end of the year you turn 49 years of age, you can carry forward up to 10 years of unused grant and bond entitlements to future years, as long as you met the eligibility requirements during the carry-forward years (i.e. you were eligible to claim the disability tax credit and you were a Canadian resident). If an RDSP was opened:
in 2015, the carry forward period would be from 2008 (the year RDSPs became available) to 2015;
in 2020, the carry forward period would be from 2010 to 2019.
The grant and bond will be paid on unused entitlements up to an annual maximum of $10,500 for the grant and $11,000 for the bond.



http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/tpcs/rdsp-reei/cdsg-eng.html



http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/disability/savings/grants_bonds.shtml




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Post by 1993firebird on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 21:01

I will be 47 tomorrow propat. Still have two years to contribute. Not sure if I will be able to though this year do to receiving back pay from SISIP and CPPD and PIA / S. My income is really high this year , need all the money I can spare to pay my income tax.

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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 21:23

buds you should have 3 years to contribute plus you can go back to the year that your DTC is effective . if tour DTC effective year starts in 2008 you can put in from 2008 on. so that's a lot of years .

on top of that you will get a good tax refund from the DTC application on past tax years to help pay for this .

this all depends on how far your DTC goes back so you will have to wait and see for this .

buds ya really want to get in on this .

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Post by 6608 on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 22:37

1993firebird, Again have to agree with Propat if your DTC does go back to 2008 and you don’t make the 4500 contribution this year (the max amount to take full advantage of the grant because of the cap) because of your age you will be leaving over 10k on the table.


also of note and this is more applicable to the younger folks but when you take the money out (assuming you waited the 10 years since the last grant contribution) you don’t pay any tax on any of the amounts you contributed to the plan just on the grants and of course any accrued interest in the plan from both.




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Post by Panserbjørn on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 22:58

Hey 6608,

I had a question in regards to what you copy and pasted.

The unused grants will be paid up to a maximum of $10,500 "annually". Does that mean that if I have five years of unused grants I could split it three for one year and two for the next?


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Post by Guest on Wed 24 Aug 2016, 23:00

actually 6608 the 10,500 annual limit is on unused entitlement's say from 08 , 09 and 2010 . he can add his 2016 entitlement as well .

so he can contribute 6,000 this year and next year and 4,500 the following .

total contributions over 3 years 16,500.

the GOC throws in 38,500 in grants and maybe some bond money as well .

ya will never find a better investment than this legally anyway lol.

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Post by 6608 on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 00:24

Panserbjørn, That is correct you cant go over 3 years worth annually for the unused grant entitlements. Propat i missed that i believe you are correct.......lol. The main point was though that if he didn’t make any contribution this year he would be leaving a lot on the table so its certainly to his benefit to take full advantage of this plan if he can swing it while he can.




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Post by 1993firebird on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 08:27

It's like a RESP for school. Well on my application the date my condition started is 2000 so not sure if they go back that far. All my refund money I will be keeping for my income tax so I will have to wait until April of 2017 to see if I have any money left after paying income tax for 2016.

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Post by Guest on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 09:06

6608 yup your right the most important part is getting this done this year .

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Post by Guest on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 09:28

firebird the RDSP only started in 08 so even though you can pay back 10 years in the plan you can go back no further than 08 .

if you get your DTC this year YOU PAY INTO THAT DTC THIS YEAR !!!!!!

seriously buds do the math .

like 6608 said you would be leaving money on the table .

for every 1500 you MAY have to borrow to pay your taxes because of this you will pay interest on that till its paid .

BUT you will also be earning interest on the 1500 you put into the plan plus you get the 3500 from the GOC and earn interest on that as well all will earn this interest for over 10 years .

just saying buds .

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