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Post by Ex Member on Mon 05 Dec 2016, 17:25

I posted this on the MVA Facebook page, pass the link around if you feel so inclined too.

I am putting my name out there, I want a platform to address our concerns.  I realized my number one concern is bring back the PA but I feel we need to address all concerns of every VET.  


https://m.facebook.com/pg/VeteransAffairsCanada/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1793896357526070&ref=bookmarks

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Post by johnny211 on Mon 05 Dec 2016, 21:13

Steel gunner - Great comments. I looked at his fb page every other day, and it is very rare when he comments back. If he does its the Hehr Parrot. Now past a year in, I cannot understand why in gods name he will not come out with a progress report. It seems too easy, like PA, we have looked at these options, will have one by....., and it will be law by .... The CIA amounts will look like this, Why is that so hard.
It will be interesting between Jan - March, pre budget, if we will then hear anything. Just stop keeping us in the dark, we all really hate that..Grumpy Old Rad Op Out... VVV...
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Post by Dannypaj on Wed 07 Dec 2016, 05:54

My old man was some pissed off with they, the GoC didbanded the Airborne Regiment.
Must be the reason why this echoes in my head all day.
AIRBORNE! AIRBORNE! WHERE ARE YOU!
we got some work to do.....
Those bastards took away the most elite feared Canadian Regiment!  
Now they go around and make promises to veterans (Cleary can read mandate letter)
Joined the forces at 19....did you!
Injured mind, body and soul...concrete.
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Post by pinger on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 20:19

Tx for that Steelgunner, and Johnny. My intuition concurs.
Think about it... no update/info on the return of a PA for how long ?
That was a primary election promise item only JT had on our file, no other party.

Hehr keeps saying they want to get it right, get it right, get it right.... ?
Well... my patience ran out on that count 6 - 9 month's ago.

Short of getting blind-sided, Just wait for the next April budget.
But in the mean time, Merry fracking Christmas to all the NVC folks.
Shyte...


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Post by Dannypaj on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 07:07

Little update of sorts,

http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/HOC/Committee/421/ACVA/Reports/RP8685109/421_ACVA_Rpt03_PDF/421_ACVA_Rpt03-e.pdf

Encouragement and engaging the general public.
Remind them of life at sea and on tour, it's not easy.

Throwing this out there: Doc states "two docs graduates one ends up at VAC no experience, zero time at sea, zero time in the field and is the decision maker. The other has done it all and is a Veteran ("SHE" should be IMO Governor General) and is the one evaluating and determining your medical condition in person".
Frustration comes at so many levels and us here at this level need to see it as well.

Another good one: Three Parole Officer transferred to become Veteran Case Management Officers. No time at sea, no time in the field, no time on tour...but who am I.

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Post by Dannypaj on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 07:09

Simply reinstate the PA without the run around.
Sincerely take care of your wounded soldiers thanks.
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Post by pinger on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 13:11

Tx for that parl link Danny...
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Post by Guest on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 13:34

Reading report now.

First observation:  quote from report.
"2.2 The transformation of Veterans Affairs Canada and the disappearance of traditional veterans"

So I am not a traditional VET, that's their one of the many problems not treating us as one Veteran Community and labelling us different.  We our the NVC that the GOC insists we take less.  Where s the law suit going and nothing from the stakeholders meetings.  Very quiet!  Something is up. Thought the judge was making a ruling months ago, still
nothibg.

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Post by pinger on Sat 10 Dec 2016, 16:11

" ... the disappearance of traditional veterans " ???
Didn't read the report steely but it sure sounds GoC.
And understanding the context doesn't necessarily make it a good one.

Better to say older vets are just dying.
Because there ain't no differentiating of our tradition. Bad context.

Traditional only fractures the veterans community as a whole to me.
Us vs Them : NVC vs PA : Korea vs WWII : Officers vs NCO's.... on and on and on it can go.

We Are One.   Period.
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Post by RCN-Retired on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 04:24

Well, just read the 82 page document and a lot of good information is very included. Agree do not like their interpretation of a Traditional Veteran vs a Moderan Day Veteran because we are all veterans period. It will be interesting if this report like so many others will be put on a shelf to collect dust or will VAC do something about it. I do not want to hold my breath so time will tell.
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Post by teentitan on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 12:16

Its going to be a dust collector.

Until VAC drops this traditional/modern veteran BS the statement of one veteran one standard is falling on deaf ears. The categorizing of veterans is a wet dream for VAC bureaucrats because it's a job maker. A single bureaucrat immerses them self in the rules to make themselves so valuable to the "system".

That's why you will never hear a Minister or PM say one veteran one standard it will open Pandora's Box.
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Post by Guest on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 12:32

Don't agree with your statement teen, one veteran one standard is in the mandate letter by JT.  So they do state it, but don't act on it yet.

https://www.google.ca/amp/ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/veterans-minister-kent-hehrs-mandate-letter-one-veteran-one-standard/amp

Also, did anyone see anything in their reading about the pension issue?

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Post by teentitan on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 16:40

Thanks steelgunner....I believe it's time to bring this to advocates and the press' attention then.
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Post by pinger on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 17:36

What's the mandate letter really worth at the end of the day? Really?

Words. To me anyway... And One veteran, One Veteran is just a faded bumper sticker cliche.
Ain't worth jack.

One Veteran, One Charter sounds better. But even that's just words.
TOD alphabets included.

It's the action and implementation that can forward our file in a positive direction irregardless of who the hell the MVA is, or who the governing party is.

Haven;t seen much and that article is over a year old

So what's it gonna take... keyboards or protests?   Both in my opinion and then some.

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Post by johnny211 on Sun 11 Dec 2016, 20:29

Steel gunner - I agree when you say - Things have been way too quiet, either something is in the works, or the MVA, don,t give a rats about us. 3 moths before budget. I am still thinking that when or if they do the payouts back too 2006' that it will come in the budget announcement. Then in the same sentence, he will say ..Look this is our solution for returning to the Monthly, if you take it. Oh ye of little faith,,, Just give us an Update for ---- Sake,, Johnny Out,,VVV,,,
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