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Post by Rags on Fri 15 May 2015, 08:23

Czerv,
 Propat is correct...thanks for that Pro,
 My view is that the GOC currently run by people that believe in the fundamentalist right wing teachings and beliefs of the Christian right are looking at many GOC issues from a perspective that is clouded by false morality teachings of the christian right. There is a separation of Church and state for a reason. The PM panders to his christian right supporters and the over 70 crowd. The over 70 crowd dont understand the herb issue or gay issue the christian right crowd dont understand anything. Nothing wrong with religion if ya lean that way just dont make it right wing fundamentalism. All fundamentalist be they Sikh, Jewish, Isis or Christian...many others, are all bad for society. That does not mean the normal middle of the road belivers of above said religions!
I may be bias.....so I maybe wrong.....I doubt it though, Im an atheist or maybe remotely on the edge of a Buddhist or Pagan. That admission so you know my bias. Born a Catholic, born and raised by the church in a convent, destine to be a priest...........found education joined the army went to war walked in the real valley of death amoung the living dying and the dead and knew then at that moment there was no god. As  Progressive Conservative I dont accept any GOC entity making society choices in legislation that have a bias religious view in any way shape or form.

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Re: Moved to Veteran Help

Post by Rifleman on Thu 14 May 2015, 17:10

Hey smoke it toke it water bottle it hot knife it I don't give a crap as long it's not crack And yes I still think it does not matter who have on our side it's just another politician with No balls and it will not stop with there stupidity who makes double our bucks sorry about the rant I'm just stoned and drunk

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Post by Guest on Thu 14 May 2015, 16:45

hey czerv I think you may have misunderstood . I may be wrong but it reads to me that he is not knocking Christianity at all ore even Christian values .
it seems to me he is knocking the GOC for using uneducated Christian values alone to form official opinion's and policy when it comes to more technical subjects
like medicine instead of using actual verified medical research and evidence .

at least that's what it looks like to me.

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Post by czerv on Thu 14 May 2015, 16:14

Rags: please, do not sling mud on Christianity. Thanks

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Re: Moved to Veteran Help

Post by Rags on Thu 14 May 2015, 09:00

One can never underestimate the importance of a sedative effect on a PTSD or Combat Stress event. Better, way way better, then booze or a Opium based drug. I dont use but I have friends that do and can see the important impact that a little herb has on them. Best of all it has no real side effects or negative health impacts other then as smoking a cig would. The Conservatives who believe too much in Christian crap values that skew there view of life through fogged over morality goggles. They need to walk a better path in life void of uneducated christian values if they want to sound reasonable. As an ex Drug and Alcohol coord in the Army I know the benefit and low impact of Herb.  

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Post by bigrex on Wed 13 May 2015, 22:46

What can you expect. he is a right wing politician after all. Besides, if he supported medical marijuana for Veterans, he would have a harder time towing the party line during the election, when they start slinging mud at JT, and his stance on legalized marijuana.
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Re: Moved to Veteran Help

Post by Ex Member on Wed 13 May 2015, 19:28

A joint sounds good right now want to join me Mr otoole i think your leaking seritonan!!!

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Post by Ex Member on Wed 13 May 2015, 19:12

I was just perscribed escitaloprm 10mg today anybody take this shit and does it help, some very bad side effects sounds worse than my ptsd.

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Post by Riddick on Wed 13 May 2015, 18:45

​The Minister has just announced.....

"Marijuana has harmful effects and there's no proof it helps with post-traumatic stress disorder, says Veterans Affairs Minister Erin O'Toole.

"There's a number of voices out there suggesting it's a treatment for PTSD; there's no clinical support for that," O'Toole said Wednesday. "Certainly, there is some support for symptom relief for chronic pain or anxiety, some symptoms."

Wow this guy impresses the heck out of me.......it is amazing how he knows this.........

What he doesn't say is that prescribed medication for PTSD can be just as harmful if not more so........ he doesn't say, when it helps one's anxiety, dreams, flashbacks, sleep etc., that should be recognized.

What more evidence does one need, when thousands say it does help! They talk about cost........but again they conveniently neglect to identify how much prescribed drugs cost and how much is saved as they are not being used. Why doesn't he just say it's all in our heads.

Minister O'Toole......if you don't or never had PTSD......... don't remove one foot just to insert another one....... you are not helping the vets or your position............ I wonder if he has interest in pharmaceuticals? Or just hates vets.................more crumbs to follow.

I wonder if he is going to tell us Tinnitus is not ringing in our ears, but the TV is too loud?
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Re: Moved to Veteran Help

Post by ceedee on Fri 16 Jan 2015, 16:13

I tried one of the pills. It didn't work for me and at the time DVA didnt not cover. That was back in the spring of 2011 if i am not mistaken lol

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Post by Rifleman on Sun 14 Dec 2014, 19:57

vac does cover Nabilone/Cesamet

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Re: Moved to Veteran Help

Post by Guest on Sun 14 Dec 2014, 18:35

Got it.......

Thanks for that pinger.

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Post by pinger on Sun 14 Dec 2014, 18:06

Orally in the form of Nabilone and/or Cesamet Trooper. It's a pill, synthetic THC. Was discussed in another thread on csat somewhere I forget. If it truly helps some of us, that would be great! I believe it does. Never worked for me as an aside personally. But the vac funding is kinda odd to me frankly. It is good for some that don't have a lot of money for it if vac covers it.

Fair winds to you ceedee. If it doesn't help you shyte can it. pinger.



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Re: Moved to Veteran Help

Post by Guest on Sun 14 Dec 2014, 15:32

Are you people talking about the Wacky Tobacky that you smoke like a cigarette ?

Or is there a new method in taken this stuff today ?

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Re: Moved to Veteran Help

Post by Ex Member on Sun 14 Dec 2014, 15:21

peep wrote:Hum.... but can you carry it to Belize?

Unfortunately peeps the Gibnuts would have a field day with it!
Nice to see you and ceedee.

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