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Post by Riddick on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 18:38

Then there are the families / parents who give marijuana to their children to ease / help eliminate seizures.......or is it because it is not medicine and no way works for them that they are actually giving it to them to get high ....

Ya....that is closer to the truth......duh

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Post by Teentitan on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 18:24

And that's why big pharma is not going to do studies on marijuana to get it approved for a DIN.

Of course if someone was to do a study and was in no way associated with a pharmacutical company it would be ignored by Health Canada.

And that is the true charade about medical marijuana!
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Post by bigrex on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 16:50

No real studies on the effectiveness? Only anecdotal evidence? Isn't that how studies of the effectiveness of any medicine is basically conducted? If they are looking at an anti-depressant, wouldn't they ask those who have taken a certain pill, whether or not they are still depressed or not? And most medications that are prescribed do not cure an illness, they merely manage the symptoms of the illness. When I take my dilaudid, I know it isn't to cure my Arthritis, it's just to try and keep the pain at a manageable level. And no X-ray, or blood test can determine how much pain I am in. So the only way to find out if the drug is effective, is to ask me. And the side effects range from mild, to severe, including death. So the best indicator as to whether or not marijuana is an effective treatment, is to ask those who use it to control their symptoms, and the possible side effects can't be any worse than death.
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Post by Riddick on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 12:24

Yes Teen articles like this and the same put-down from the MVA really burns me the wrong way.

Is there a God or not? Everyone has an opinion and belief! Is Faith Healing medicine? Whether it be marijuana or is there a God or aliens or even PTSD, some things you just can't put your finger on it and and say it is or isn't. Not everything is cut and dry, but when ignorant people make bold statements.......

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt!!

Yes Teen, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hidden agenda.......seems most big companies and the government have them more often than not.

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Post by Teentitan on Wed 08 Jul 2015, 10:56

I thought people would enjoy that article. LOL

Either she has stocks in big pharma or she is just plain blind to what is obviously truth....marijuana works for some people with health problems.

I'd like to be an optimist here and say maybe she has caught wind of a request to get a DIN on marijuana. Now that would freak out big pharma!!!
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Post by Riddick on Tue 07 Jul 2015, 23:39

B.S. This rocket scientist claims marijuana is not medicine!!!!..... oh man....what planet are you from MARGARET WENTE? Where do you think medicine comes from??? Hello!!!! much of it comes from plants, roots.....bark etc.........marijuana is a plant!!!! No it is not a pill or refined and in many cases, but it is medicine.

As a child a home remedy we had to take was boiled Poplar bark.....tasted like crap......is that not medicine? Of course it is. Medicine cures many people, some makes other sick and for others has no effect. So when it has no effect for some do you stop calling it medicine........stop writing articles until you know what you are talking about!

As new studies show the many different strains are now being targeted for different things. Marijuana works for many and the one's it works for have a specific name for it....... M E D I C I N E.

Perhaps in your next article you should mention how much the government is saving on hard prescription drugs where one needs multiple drugs to have the same effect and also happens to be more more harmful and damaging to one's health......wake up and write the good and the bad not just the negative.

The government legalizes alcohol where it kills thousands each year........what statistics are there on marijuana? oh wait ...the government makes millions each year on tobacco and alcohol if not billions....so they do not care who dies as long as they get their money.

Pass the tea an honey please I have a sore throat from yelling at this lady.

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Post by Ex Member on Sun 14 Jun 2015, 16:10

Its our lives GOC you do not own us anymore if we want to smoke, eat. inhale we will do so what we dont have to do is take drug companys poison if we dont want to, remember you's work for us not dictate to us. And missy maam your stressed out have a brownie.

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Post by Guest on Sat 13 Jun 2015, 17:52

its just an argument to back up her parties stand. it really doesn't have to make any sense if that means they want to make kids smoke it so be it they will make there stance known regardless . the thing is she should have taken a minuet to breath or even a week or two came up with a more intelligent coherent and professional response and came out with that .

negative side effects REALLY !!!!

just went through a bunch of my meds for side effects and wholy ol flyin frack every one of them has a bunch negative side effects.

heck I got one here that can negatively effect you in what looks like every way imaginable including kill you . are they rethinking like every drug on the market today or just pot because its pot?????

lots of very smart people in that party that could have helped her come up with a halfway sensible response .

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Post by Teentitan on Sat 13 Jun 2015, 12:30

Great find Rex.

So there is lots of scientific proof of the negative/harmful impact of smoking/ingesting pot but not one single word of the oil/cookie/brownie stopping seizures of many children in North America??? Hell there's a brand in America called Charlotte's Web to treat seizures because the first girl to try it is named Charlotte.

So a 'company' hasn't applied to meet Health Canada's approval for medicianl marijuana?? Who approves the companies to make applications? Wouldn't that be Health Canada!

Double talk Rona pure double talk. And if your scientific proof of the negative effects of smoking pot is so bad why would you allow a child who needs it to smoke it? Oh wait a minute that's what the Supreme Court of Canada's decision was about...allowing parents to alter marijuana so they don't become criminials trying to treat their child!!!!
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Post by bigrex on Sat 13 Jun 2015, 12:12

Actually teen, she says in one interview that there is only one agency that can decide to call a drug a medicine, and that is Health Canada. She doesn't restrict her bias to just pot baked into brownies, as is the subject the court case, but all marijuana used for medicinal purposes.

Rona Ambrose extended interview
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Post by Teentitan on Fri 12 Jun 2015, 23:21

Rex it wasn't what Ambrose was upset about. The GoC fully legalized medical marijuana but the catch was it could only be smoked.

If it was altered in any way then it would be illegal and the person who administered it other then smoking would be charged for trafficking.

The SoC said no it can be administered by decision of the client.

This is the game changer because now the GoC has to adapt to the new possibilities of application which means more research for proper dosage of different applications.

In other words growers can now get grant money from the GoC to develop and offer the different delivery mehtods with the proper dosages. And cross pollination of different strains for different diseases/illness/pain/seizure/cancer etc.

Big pharma is still freaking out!
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Post by Riddick on Fri 12 Jun 2015, 22:21

It's good to see the comments all reflect the same idea....

Whether it is the Health Minister, the MVA, VAC, VRAB, Harper.......or the tainted Senate, us Canadians have been too passive for too long. People are fed up and are starting to push back. Sometimes the media can be a positive thing where so many people can see what so many people are thinking and feeling.

Since I have joined VVI, I have say I have indirectly met a lot of well informed and educated individuals. I just hope that strength in numbers will produce positive results.

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Post by bigrex on Fri 12 Jun 2015, 20:51

The thing is, Ambrose kept saying that she was angry because judges, and not doctors were calling it medicine, which is complete BS. It has to be prescribed by a DOCTOR, and they are the ones who are saying that their patients require medicinal marijuana, and in what form, and the Judges only supported that view, that how the patient chooses to take their prescribed medicine is up to them. I have a prescription for Diluadid, which comes as a pill, but if I wanted to, I could grind it up and mix it with a glass of water, but it is my choice. So I am angry that a politician feels that they have the power to tell doctors what can be used as medicine or not, and Canadians how they have to take it. As the Health Minister, she should be putting her own prejudices aside, and accepting the medical opinions of doctors, and the legal decision of the courts, that in certain circumstances, marijuana is better than pharmaceuticals for treating certain conditions.
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Post by Ex Member on Fri 12 Jun 2015, 15:41

A little bit of honey oil simple easy takes the edge off no side effects now its legal: i like it,i love it, i want some more of it. Especially now that im in the middle of all these claims and appeals.PTSD is a long hard personal story with a lot of painful memories. hey Rona pass that joint dont be a pig and hog it all to yourself damn selfish MP'S!!!

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Post by Teentitan on Fri 12 Jun 2015, 15:18

I look at this way if it stops epilectic seizures in kids under 5 years old the government can keep their feckn' noses out of it!!!!!!

The father in this story is a trailblazer in my opinion. Turning the marijuana into an oil and having each batch tested for the proper dosage....Father of the Century IMO!!!

So Amborse and all politicians pay attention put a DIN on marijuana so our tax dollars can go into research for the many ailments that can be treated by marijuana!!
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