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Veterans urge Premier Stephen McNeil to be stronger ally against Ottawa

Post by Trooper on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 14:56

Veterans urge Premier Stephen McNeil to be stronger ally against Ottawa


Veterans and families say Trudeau government must do more to help injured former members

By Jean Laroche, CBC News Posted: Mar 24, 2017 12:33 PM AT Last Updated: Mar 24, 2017 2:15 PM AT


David MacLeod, a disabled Afghanistan war veteran, addresses a news conference at the Nova Scotia Legislature in Halifax on Friday.

"Don't join the Canadian Armed Forces."

That blunt message was delivered Friday by David MacLeod, who wore a blue blazer with his seven service medals pined over his left breast pocket to a news conference at Province House.

"If you get wounded or injured, Veterans Affairs Canada is unwilling or unable to help you," said the Afghanistan war veteran.

MacLeod, joined by Kim Davis and Natasha Mohr, both wives of veterans, and fellow serviceman Medrick Mercer, was at the provincial legislature to urge Nova Scotia Premier Stephen McNeil to fight on their behalf.

'Deeply betrayed and used'

In November, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said hundreds of frontline Veterans Affairs workers were being hired across the country as the department reopened VA offices closed by the previous Conservative government.

But Friday's group said it feels "deeply betrayed and used" by the Trudeau government, which promised to improve services and benefits to veterans. They said the system for dealing with injured vets is worse than when the Conservatives were in power.

Davis said her husband Blair returned from a tour of duty in Bosnia in 1993 with a psychological injury, and now has to rely on the provincial health system to help him. It's a system, she said, that is not ready to handle the complex problems of vets.  

"Our emerg department is now being overloaded," said Davis.

"Our emerg department is not equipped to deal with this situation. And many veterans are walking out the door frustrated because they're sitting in a waiting room saying that they have suicide ideations and they walk out."

'I'm not buying that'

Former military member Medrick Mercer echoed the call for McNeil, who is also Nova Scotia's minister responsible for military relations, to challenge the federal Liberals to do more.

"We can bring thousands of refugees from foreign countries in a matter of weeks and we can't figure out how to get a military veteran and his family back into the community that they wish to live with the appropriate health-care supports in place?

"I'm sorry folks, I'm not buying that."

McNeil defends record

Premier Stephen McNeil defended his record of advocating on behalf of veterans.

"I think we've been forceful enough," he told reporters not long after the veterans spoke. "We need to continue to push that message and we will."

However McNeil said he agrees with the veterans, that more needs to be done.

"There's no question there's a need when it comes to post-traumatic stress disorder and we will continue to make sure that we fight for the appropriate level of funding and services for veterans and their families."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/veterans-ottawa-federal-mental-injury-ptsd-health-care-1.4039389[/b]

‘There is always an alternative,’ veterans warn Trudeau


Published March 24, 2017 - 2:18pm


Disabled veterans and their families in Halifax Friday warned Justin Trudeau’s Liberals that “there is always an alternative” when it comes election time.

The warning was delivered at Province House by Afghanistan veteran David MacLeod, who joined others in condemning what they say is the federal Liberal government’s ongoing failure to address the difficulties faced by many ex-military members in accessing healthcare and other services from Veterans Affairs Canada.

“We feel deeply betrayed, used — deeply used by the way — and I don’t see any veterans really willing to vote for Mr. Trudeau,” said MacLeod.

His words come less than two years after he released his book A Dirty Little Skirmish at the height of the 2015 federal election campaign.

At that time, MacLeod was involved with the Anyone But Conservatives campaign launched by veterans angered by the neglect of former military members by Stephen Harper’s government.

Under Harper’s government, veterans faced the closure of nine Veterans Affairs Canada offices nationwide and court action to claim benefits they needed after returning home from war.

“ABC can go any which way, Anyone But — fill in the blank,” warned MacLeod.

MacLeod and his fellow veterans now say that Trudeau’s government has allowed bureaucracy to block access to needed services, shifted the burden of veterans’ healthcare onto the provinces, an unwillingness to provide promised life long pensions for disabled veterans under the Pension Act, misinformation from the Minster of Veteran Affairs, an Office of the Veteran Ombudsman to be more assertive and a failed veteran engagement strategy via stakeholders summits and advisory groups.

The independent local veterans group came together by sharing their stories online, in person, through research and in the courts.

“I think the best thing that can happen is that more veterans become involved in politics, so that all parties become well-educated and do exactly what’s required for veterans,” said MacLeod.

Kim Davis, whose husband served in Bosnia as a peacekeeper during the 1990s civil war, said that veterans struggling with PTSD and suicidal thoughts often had to wait days for help.

Even picking up the phone and trying to speak with someone at Veterans Affairs Canada involved 15 to 20 minutes of waiting for a representative, Davis said.

“They went to war. Why do we have to go to war with our Canadian government to get help?” said Davis.

Provincial Progressive Conservative leader Jamie Baillie attended the event, promising to take up their concerns as best he can.

“I am very angry,” said Baillie.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1453389-%E2%80%98there-is-always-an-alternative%E2%80%99-veterans-warn-trudeau


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Re: Budget 2017 - And VAC Part in it -

Post by johnny211 on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 17:29

They went to war. Why do we have to go to war with our Canadian government to get help?” said Davis. So true, and I think Our PM, better rethink how many Vet votes are out there. Not sure about the rest of you, but like David when I come across a young one thinking of joining, I fill them in on how all gov,s turn there back on you at the end of the line. I just flat out tell them Don't. Cranky Rad Op Johnny Out,,VVV...
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Re: Budget 2017 - And VAC Part in it -

Post by bosn181 on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 17:44

i just tell them no matter what happens if you get any trip to MIR or sick bay to make sure you keep record of anything and everything and make sure you fill out a CF98 never trust that they will keep it for you or give you a true copy of you medical file they always seem to lose info lucky for me i did keep a junk box and put everything in it did not know i would have to fall back on sick chits as evidence but it was enough info to cover myself

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Re: Budget 2017 - And VAC Part in it -

Post by Trooper on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 18:52

johnny211 wrote:Caregiver Recognition Benefit - As I cannot find any policy for this on VAC site, I am wondering if anyone has found anything about it? I hope unlike the fcrb that they add adl,s for mental disabilities. Also I am looking to see if they take out this " if you are under both the PA and the NVC, then you have to put in for the AA. This is now a prerequisite for the FCRB. Not sure if anyone else here is in this sit.            But another Vet friend and myself are under both PA and NVC. We are both TPI, 100percent. Put in for FCRB for mental issues, that happened post 2006. We got letters saying that because we have a PA, we have to put in for AA . So quess what, we put in for AA! Which is mainly physical disabilities, and we're both denied. appealed and denied again. Like a circle. So hopefully this has been sorted out with the new CRB. Sorry for the rant,  Maybe it's coming out 1April. Johnny Out..VVV...

Budget 2017 - Infographic - Caregiver Recognition Benefit




Caregiver Recognition Benefit

Direct support for those who support out Veterans

This benefit will simplify how VAC recognizes and supports caregivers with a monthly benefit of $1,000 payable directly to them, tax free.

- Recognition of caregivers support to Veterans

- 1K monthly, tax free benefit directly to caregivers

- No time limit to apply

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/department-officials/minister/budget/supporting-families/caregiver-recognition-benefit-graphic?utm_source=teset&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=services
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Re: Budget 2017 - And VAC Part in it -

Post by Rustytheviking on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 20:03

The increase on the caregiver amount is actually not bad. Better than the one time 7200 or whatever they were giving out before.

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Post by Vet1234 on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 20:09

i just received my FCRB in February. I wonder if the criteria will change and if i need to wait a year to re-apply.
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Post by bosn181 on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 20:50

yeah i called and asked vac about that today seeing wife been getting it for a few years will they just top it up for the rest of the year or wait to re apply next year she told me she has no information at all at this time about the new care giver they have not been told or have been and not allowed to say one or the other

i just hope they change it so more people can now gain access to this benefit and not have to keep fighting the system

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Post by Willie on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 21:00

Would this Caregiver Recognition Benefit be an additional amount on top of the Attendance Allowance? I have an application in with DVA for Attendance Allowance; had a home nurse visit and now waiting for a decision. Just wondering about the new caregiver recognition benefit and whether it was a separate application and whether one negates the other.

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Re: Budget 2017 - And VAC Part in it -

Post by 6608 on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 21:04

The proposed changes announced in the budget come into force on the 1st April 2018.............Here is a link to the bill C-42

SUMMARY
This enactment amends the Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act to, among other things,
(a) specify to whom career transition services may be provided under Part 1 of the Act and authorize the Governor in Council to make regulations respecting those services;
(b) create a new education and training benefit that will provide a veteran with up to $80,000 for a course of study at an educational institution or for other education or training that is approved by the Minister of Veterans Affairs;
(c) end the family caregiver relief benefit and replace it with a caregiver recognition benefit that is payable to a person designated by a veteran;
(d) authorize the Minister of Veterans Affairs to waive the requirement for an application for compensation, services or assistance under the Act in certain cases;
(e) set out to whom any amount payable under the Act is to be paid if the person who is entitled to that amount dies before receiving it; and
(f) change the name of the Act.


Coming into Force
April 1, 2018

30 The provisions of this Act, other than sections 21, 22 and 27, come into force on April 1, 2018.



http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Pub=bill&Doc=C-42_1&Parl=42&Ses=1#enH676



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Post by johnny211 on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 21:38

Here we go again, it sounds great but let's make them wait a year. Or am I not seeing something? .VVV..
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Post by Vet1234 on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 23:18


Applications made before April 1, 2018

(2) An application for a family caregiver relief benefit that is made under subsection 65.‍1(1) of the Veterans Well-being Act as it read on March 31, 2018 and that is received by the Minister before April 1, 2018 is to be dealt with in accordance with that Act as it read on March 31, 2018. If the application is approved, the veteran is entitled to the benefit for only one year.


not very clear on how they deal with transitional benefits.
I received my FCRB in February... if the new benefit is payable to my caregiver, I dont see a provision that stops payments from the caregiver until the amount i received is reached.
Even if they took the money i received before April 1st into account, the benefit is payable to the caregiver, so they should still owe the caregiver $1000 per month as of April 1st i figure. I also believe that they can't claw back the FCRB paid legitimately, and can't deny the caregiver the allowance based on the fact that it was paid to the Veteran in need
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Hehr touts vets' benefits, hedges on pension

Post by Trooper on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 05:51

Hehr touts vets' benefits, hedges on pension


March 24, 2017

OTTAWA — Veterans Affairs Minister Kent Hehr has all but ruled out a return to the old way injured veterans received pensions, setting up a potentially vicious fight with some of those hurt in uniform.

In an interview Friday with The Canadian Press, Hehr touted the benefits and services available under the New Veterans Charter, which replaced the previous pensions-for-life system in 2006.

Those include a lump-sum payment, career training and targeted income-replacement programs, many of which the Liberals have topped up and expanded over the last two years.

Wednesday's budget saw the government commit to paying up to $80,000 for long-serving veterans who want to go back to school, as well as additional help to find civilian jobs and new money for families.

Those are in addition to a number of measures adopted in last year's budget.

"The whole suite of benefits under the New Veterans Charter were not available under the Pension Act," Hehr said. "My dad always says this: 'The good old days weren't always so good'."

But some veterans say the current system provides less financial support over the course of a lifetime and have demanded that the old pensions-for-life be brought back.

Hehr stopped short when asked whether the old pension system is dead, but veterans were told by a member of his staff in at least one briefing earlier this week that it would not be coming back.

A recording of the briefing was obtained by The Canadian Press.

That sparked complaints from several veterans who told officials that Justin Trudeau specifically promised to bring back the pensions when he campaigned for their votes during the last election.

"We will re-instate lifelong pensions and increase their value in line with the obligation we have made to those injured in the line of duty," Trudeau said during a campaign stop in Belleville, Ont., in August 2015.

The Liberal government has since promised to give injured veterans the option of a lifelong pension, the details of which have been promised before the end of the year.

But some fear the government will simply take the lump sum that veterans currently receive for pain and suffering when they are forced from the military and spread it out over a lifetime.

The lump-sum amount varies depending on the extent of injury, with the maximum amount being $360,000.

Asked about this, Hehr said: "We're not going to preclude any discussions on this. All options are on the table. Veterans need to know that our government is committed to their success and their families."

The New Veterans Charter received strong support when it was announced in 2005, which Hehr suggested was a sign veterans weren't happy with the old pension system.

The problem was that the new charter wasn't properly implemented by the Conservatives, he said, which resulted in many veterans getting inadequate support or falling entirely through the cracks.

"I think a lot of times people forget there were calls to get rid of the old Pension Act," he said.

"Our government is committed to filling the gaps that the former government did not do over the course of their 10 years in power."

By Lee Berthiaume, The Canadian Press

http://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/7207817-hehr-touts-vets-benefits-hedges-on-pension/
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Post by BinRat on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 08:12

I was in the garage and having a coffee and a smoke, and seems all over the News TV Radio on that Press Release these guy's did, even the One part, where David Macleod Remarks about Not recommending any to join the Military..

I bet you right now Ottawa is gonna be in damage control with this as Davids story has gone from Coast to Coast to Coast...

And with what around $5000 Odd are released each year, Hmmm might not have a military in a few year's, Unless VAC gets it s#$# together, well not Vac, but the PM and MVA.

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Post by Iceman on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 10:04

So, I read through the entirety of the bill c-42
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=8849327

Regarding the caregiver relief benefit. There is specific wording that says it is not applicable to anyone that has ever reviewed any sort of pension or compensation under the pension act

(b.‍1) the veteran has not been awarded a pension or compensation as those terms are defined in subsection 3(1) of the Pension Act;



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Post by bosn181 on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 10:15

i guess we will have to wait and see, i don't think anyone already on old system under attendance allowance will be able to apply but i can't see people on caregiver already not being able to get this top up and expand it so more could qualify but its GOC so nothing can surprise me anymore. hurry up and wait

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