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Post by Bruce72 on Thu 20 Jul 2017, 16:41

If I understand the process. The thing about the CIA is you only qualify if you have an approved Rehab plan developed or completed with VAC. And have been found to have a severe and permanent disability.

I have a friend who has a disability award from 2011 at 70% and receives SISIP LTD. But has not opted for a Rehab plan with VAC. So he is disqualified from CIA/S.

I believe it is a deliberate move by the Feds to deny veterans benefits, unless you follow their cookie cutter system of connect the dots to recovery or the best version of you therein.

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Post by Guest on Thu 20 Jul 2017, 15:51

nemo wrote:I wish the government would be more honest to the people about this CIA.... Most of us that can't work don't qualify for it. How many did out of the all the disabled?  This system needs a serious revamp.

I agree, the whole system needs a revamp. They can start by getting rid of all those bureaucrats who work on our file. Veterans are being taken advantage of by it's own government and those who work within our file. We do not have a union and pretty much rely on some advocacy and the media to have our concerns heard. But that's about as far as it goes, they are all milking the system making it seem as though what they are doing for disabled Veterans is above and beyond respect in the work they do in providing the New Charter and all the benefits that come with it. Our only option at this point is to educate the public and the media on exactly those sinful tactics they continue to use. They are all laughing at us knowing the scope of disrespect they can get away with, disrespect in the form of putting their self interest ahead of those disabled members who served our Country. Unfortunately this will continue as we can clearly see, it is an ongoing problem for disabled Veterans that will end up not getting the respectful benefits that they all deserve. I'm not one to force my beliefs onto others, but I hope I'm not the only member of this forum who is thinking all of this unfairness that is brought upon us by our government. Nevertheless, regardless of divisions on the subject in question, we still should all be entitled to our opinion, an opinion that should never be forced onto others.

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Post by Nemo on Thu 20 Jul 2017, 11:03

The CIA should be across the board. ALL members who are on SISIP or CPP(D) or other program because they have been deemed unable to work, should qualify. But that just ain't so.
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Post by Nemo on Thu 20 Jul 2017, 11:02

I wish the government would be more honest to the people about this CIA.... Most of us that can't work don't qualify for it. How many did out of the all the disabled? This system needs a serious revamp.
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Post by pinger on Wed 19 Jul 2017, 21:37

Never heard of an earnings capacity assessment tool Vet1234.
Sounds like a MyVac or VaC site math tool.

Only my opinion... but I wouldn't even waste my time.
Perhaps it's helpful to others though.
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Post by Vet1234 on Wed 19 Jul 2017, 21:11

anyone have any info on the "earnings capacity assessment tool" used to determine a veterans earning capacity for calculation of CIA level?
I personally think that if veterans are unable to work at all and TPI/DEC, the earning capacity should be 0%. apparently many vets who had a CIA reassessment in April, who were Unable to work and had over 15 years of time left to serve, were assigned an "earning capacity" of over 33% and moved up only one level.
I would love to see this magical tool and formula that decides a veteran whose doctor says they are unable to work at all, has any earning capacity other than 0%.
anyone??
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Post by Artie Simm on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 14:11

found this today, it might be of help to one and all.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/organization/bureau-pensions-advocates
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Post by Rustytheviking on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 11:27

3 weeks from when I put my foot down. I'm not counting the time my cm didn't want to work for me

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Post by Artie Simm on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 00:25

Rustytheviking wrote:I was approved dec this past week. I had been fighting my case mangler for the better part of 2 years till I had enough. He felt I didn't deserve, despite not being able to work. Took a whole 3 weeks from start to finish
well not really, sounds more like 2 years 3 weeks
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Post by Rustytheviking on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 23:10

I called the 1-800 number and asked the service person to send me the application package. My cm called a few days later to argue with me. I told him enough, I want to go through the process. He sent a form to my doc, she sent a detailed explanation why I can't work.

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Post by czerv on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 20:14

Rustytheviking, could you please shed some light how the process ,assessment for DEC looks like? I will be asking for one soon.

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Post by Rustytheviking on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 18:56

I was approved dec this past week. I had been fighting my case mangler for the better part of 2 years till I had enough. He felt I didn't deserve, despite not being able to work. Took a whole 3 weeks from start to finish

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Post by Artie Simm on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 13:37

"...that's the way the wheel turns with VAC, if they were to approve all applicants, they would put themselves out of work. Nobody's going to knock on your door with any benefits, it is left to the Veteran to apply for the available benefits...."
Having had time to cool down/reflect I see your point about not approving every single application,all I can do is do what the army taught me, watch and shoot.figuratively if not literally.
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Post by Guest on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 11:18

Vet 1234 ..thats not TRUE ...your still kicking! Smile

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Post by Vet1234 on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 10:09

Defer, deny, and then you die.
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