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Post by Artie Simm on Thu 22 Mar 2018, 12:35

I would say yes. if you go to myvacaccount under payments you receive it might show you how much so you would be able to figure out if its level 3,2,or 1
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Post by rmsclk836 on Thu 22 Mar 2018, 12:30

If I have been approved for Career Impact Allowance does that automatically mean I will get the supplement?

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Post by bigrex on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 15:38

Basically, what they are saying is that the maximum they will pay is one year of retro. So say if you make an application in March 2016, but it didn't get approved until this week by VRAB, VAC would only pay back to March of 2017. But when I requested a review, and my PIA was increased, they only increased my payments going forward. There was no retro payments.
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Post by cosmo12 on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 11:15

Good day guys;

a quick question for you this morning. Just saw on my VacAccount that they bumbed my CIA from level 3 to 2.

I need your help to understand: Clarification: Date payable: CIA and an increase in the grade level due to a reassessment, begins to be payable[u] on the later of:
[
the day on which the application for the allowance was made (see the Application section of this
policy); and
a
the day that is one year prior to the day on which the application for the allowance is approved, i.e.
one year prior to the decision date; and
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What is your inderstanding of this if my original application was 17 feb 2014: a. retro paiement one year or retro paiement to the date I summited my application for review ?

confusing..

thanks

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Post by bigrex on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 21:02

peep, once you are approved for CIA, they can't just take it away, just because you aren't on the rehab program any more. It sounds like someone really screwed the pooch. Before cancelling CIA, it has to be suspended first, and you are supposed to get a letter stating why it is suspended. If the situation is not addressed, they then cancel it, and arte supposed to send a second letter explaining why it was cancelled. And from looking at the Act, and the regulations, the only reason for cancelling CIA, is for non-compliance, such as failing to provide medical questionnaires that are requested. It says nothing about the rehab program, other than that you have to have had a rehab program approved, before applying..
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Post by peep on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 18:26

I applied for CIA twice in the past. Was approved my second time, but never got a cent, as I was dropped from Rehab. Just moved to B.C. and had a new case manager come out. She tools one look at me and put me on Reham, permanent disability and said she was putting in ELB tomorrow.

Question, since I was on CIA before, do I need to apply for it again? Or will it reactivate? I asked the case manager but she did not know.
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Post by propat on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 16:38

ya bog bigrex is right weather you cancel it or not the fact that you were granted it means you qualify for it . since you qualify for it ya cant get the CIA or supp.

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Post by bigrex on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 14:48

Unfortunately, they wrote the legislation so that anyone who is EIA, or has ever recieved EIA in the past, is automatically excluded from the CIA. So even though you may no longer qualify for EIA, but would easily qualify for CIA, because you were medically released after 5 years and are DEC, you are still not allowed to apply. It's penny pinching BS, plain and simple.
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Post by bog6 on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 14:16

So if the soldier that has EIA appeals to have his EIA cancelled and apply for CIA/CIAS knowingly that that soldier is above the 100%, actually at 116%

Would it be a good idea to use the appeal process to challenge?


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Post by Dameon on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 13:01

For those that are keeping track. CIA is now at a 34+ week wait time.

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Post by propat on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 09:23

Vet1234 to us yes its stupid . to them smart . its all part of the GOC,s war on vets . they just want to look good to the general public while at the same time fracking vets out of benefits . when they do this to other segments of the population the normal thing to do is a bit of a bait and switch . they give an amount in one hand and take about the same amount from the other . aside from some administration costs basically a no cost to low cost move . they do this ALL the time .

but for us they really go the extra mile . look back to 2006 . under the guise of doing something good for us they presided over the largest cuts to veterans benefits in the history of the free western world . these benefit cuts are not nearly as large as then but still sizable to us . so for us instead of giving 11-1200 to us in one hand and taking it from the other they actually want to profit by reducing our total benefits by 11-1200 .

eliminating the CIA s does this quite nicely .

ya the same as just eliminating the DA but this will give them nothing to spin witch is one of the two goals . ( reduce benefits and hold a positive spin )
plus it would be illegal and wouldn't stand up to a court challenge .

yup the same as only eliminating the CIAs BUT again no positive spin .

that's why we have what we have now.

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Post by Vet1234 on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 20:20

its just stupid. Someone with the exact same issues and DA % in 2019 will receive atleast 1200$ a month less than someone who was approved for CIA/S between 2007 and april 2019.
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Post by bigrex on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 20:09

the lowest EIA ($492/mo) and the lowest APSC ($500/mo) will likely be the same once next years COLA is applied. But for those who are, or will be, getting CIAS, within the next year, are still going to be getting an extra $1100/mo over those just on EIA. I can understand not overlapping EIA and PIA/CIA payments, but the supplement should have been given to any severely disabled PA veterans, who would have otherwise qualified for the PIA/CIA, if not for the EIA, since the beginning. But now that CIAS is being sunsetted, there will be opportunity or political will, to expand CIAS to EIA, in the future.
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Post by bog6 on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 07:42

With that being said, if one person is now receiving lowest EIA and another person is now receiving lowest CIA/CIAS..sounds like both will be the same after 2019....!!

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Post by bigrex on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 01:30

The CIAS is being eliminated going forward. They have said that for those that get it before the change over, will not lose it, but it will not exist after 2019. Instead, they have said that for those that have been medically released, the IRB will be increased by 1% every year, until you either reach what would have been your 20th year, or age 60. The only problem is that it's unclear right now, if that means that it will increase the percentage of your pre-release pay, up to 100% of your military pay after 10 years, or if it means that it will be 1% of your actual IRB payment. If it's the latter, does that mean that IRB will no longer be subject to COLA? According to them, they haven't even written the legislation yet, which is why we have to wait until next year, so until we can read the legislation, everything is unknown, and subject to change.
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