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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by bigrex on Tue 30 May 2017, 15:00

You can absolutely work, as long as you meet the criteria. There are currently two types of criteria for CIA. one is strictly the level of disability, and the second is the inability to earn a percentage of deemed income (DEC, compared to how many possible years in the CF you lost, due to the disability.
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Post by Artie Simm on Tue 30 May 2017, 00:09

So can you not get CIA and still hold down a job? I am working at the moment.
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Post by cosmo12 on Mon 29 May 2017, 18:41

Only once after 2,years and confirmed by VAC.

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In all cases, two years following the date the Veteran is determined to have met the criteria for DEC, the Veteran must be re-assessed to determine if he or she is still meets the criteria for DEC. A Veteran may have his or her EL or CIA benefits cancelled if he or she fails to comply with any request for reassessment, as indicated in paragraph 36.
A follow-up examination of a Veteran’s DEC status may be conducted at any other time, and should occur in any of the following circumstances:
the Veteran shows potential for improvement;
the Veteran requests a re-assessment and/or is interested in re-engaging in the Rehabilitation Program;
statements of earnings indicate that the Veteran may be gainfully employed; or
statements of earnings indicate that the Veteran is no longer considered “totally disabled” as defined by a third party compensation plan, such as CAF LTD (SISIP), Canada Pension Plan, or provincial or federal worker’s compensation plan.
If an examination or assessment is determined to be appropriate, the decision maker should consider the evidence and factors as required for any DEC determination as set out in paragraphs 13 to 20 above. If the Veteran is determined to have the capacity for suitable gainful employment, the DEC status should be terminated effective the date of the decision.
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Canadian Forces Members and Veterans Re-establishment and Compensation Act, sections 11 and 20, subsections 18(4) and 38(3)

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Post by Armygunner on Mon 29 May 2017, 13:48

I'm going through the CIAS review atm. It's form 671 Medical Questionnaire: Employment Capacity. I talked to VAC and every 2 years those of us receiving CIAS will have to fill the questionnaire out and submit for further CIAS or not.

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Post by cosmo12 on Mon 29 May 2017, 10:48

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/2126
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/forms/document/318

Hi Artie, find references above about your question. Review is done for CIAS reference your DEC (diminished earning capacity) only once after the two year mark. Usually your case manager will send you the form in reference for your doctor or psychologist/psychiatrist to filled. CIA is for life or until such time you miraculously heal. Hope this help.

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Post by Artie Simm on Mon 29 May 2017, 00:56

So VAC sent me a notice that they were reviewing my initial PTSD claim from a decade earlier. They sent a form to my Psychologist and I sat down with him and answered all the questions, he will then return it to them.
My question is this. I understand that if approved for CIA (which is a separate claim). You have to be reassessed every 2 years. Does anyone know what this reassessment looks like? Is there an on line form similar to the one I had to fill out for my PTSD? Or does it take the shape of a letter from the psychologist stating " met with patient, no improvement in their situation, mentally or physically"?
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Post by Dannypaj on Tue 09 May 2017, 05:35

Dannypaj wrote:I haven't applied for the PIA(S) nor the Family Care Giver Allowance, although I qualified for the VIP and PIA, should I?

I fall under the PA/NVC, only receiving 1/5 of 16% = 3% under the PA and the rest is under the NVC (Talk about a headache).


Still haven't applied for these benefits.
Mental health is a S.O.B and VAC doesn't make it any easier.
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Post by Cctchevy18 on Wed 03 May 2017, 12:04

Just got an update today from vac, they are now processing new CIA applications from may 2016, which makes no sense cause I had one denied in October, now I have more approved diasibility awards that make CIA applicable to me,
But how does the standard start date for applications go backwards 8 months
These dates as much as vac normal stuff makes no sense.

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Post by czerv on Wed 03 May 2017, 11:43

It should be based on the day you become Permament Category while serving! and not TPI/DEC designation.

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Post by Artie Simm on Wed 03 May 2017, 10:30

Vet1234 wrote:25 years
So they will base my potential future earning as 9 years?
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Post by bigrex on Sun 30 Apr 2017, 11:32

I still think that it should be based on your age when you become TPI/DEC, not how many years you served. Because the way it is written, younger Veterans can get screwed over. Veteran A joins the CF at age 30, and serves 5 years before being medically released for a relatively mild disability, like a bad knee. That Veteran then goes onto a second career, but 20 years later, becomes TPI. So that Veteran would automatically get grade 1 CIA at age 55, based on losing more than 15 years of CF service, in spite of being able to work their entire adult life. Where as Veteran B joins the CF at age 20, and serves 11 years before being released with a severe disability, that prevents them from ever working again. but even though he is only 31, and unable to ever work again, he/she will only qualify for CIA grade 2. After all, CIA isn't about just compensating for losing your military career, it's about lost earnings capacity, which should include military and post military careers.
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Post by Vet1234 on Sat 29 Apr 2017, 07:55

25 years
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Post by Artie Simm on Fri 28 Apr 2017, 23:15

So I served 16 years before being medically released, if my claim is approved, does VAC assume I would have stayed in the military 20,25,30,35 years? where do they hypothetically draw the line in terms of years of service they feel I would have lost?
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Post by Vet1234 on Fri 28 Apr 2017, 21:48

DEC is reviewed after 2 years. To find out if you still have a diminished earning capacity.
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Post by Mike77 on Fri 28 Apr 2017, 21:13

I have a question regarding the CIA/CIAS. I understand once you are approved at whatever level 1,2,3 , after a 2 year timeframe you will have to be reevaluated? I think I remember Bigrex or Bruce72 explain this but cant find Their posts? My questions is what does VAC want to know after 2 years? Another bunch of paperwork to fill out? Will I have to let my Doc know what to expect? Do they call him/her? Will this be the final batch of paperwork for me to fill out then I can relax? I'm thinking I'm going to get this request soon and just want to get as much info for my piece of mind.
Thanks in advance.
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