Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Guest on Tue 15 Aug 2017, 16:08

Any letter that is sent to a Veteran by VAC is recorded in their data base. There should be no reason why those answering the phone from the 1 800 VAC number cannot answer any questions relating to any letter. That's what they get paid for, to answer questions from Veterans.
If for some reason the question is to complicated to be answered by the VAC employee, that employee should take the question to the supervisor and get the question answered one way or another. After all, the context of the letters are written from VAC, leaving a Veteran with an unanswered question is not only frustrating and stressful to the Veteran, it also undermines the integrity of VAC.

As I have said many times before, we better all get use to seeing things like CIA, DEC and so forth, this is what the NVC is all about, creating complex and sometimes down right stupid changes to induce future workloads for the bureaucrats. Let's look at the CIA, Career Impact Allowance, one would think that any human being that is let go or released from their employment for medical reasons have had their career impacted, if this is the case, all medically released Veterans should automatically qualify for the CIA. Same goes for the DEC, all who have been medically released have had their earnings diminished. So if these two examples are not proof of make work projects for the future of the bureaucrats, I just don't know what is.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by By the Bay on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 14:46

Good Afternoon,

I just got off the phone with VAC...
If you applied for CIA and CIA supplement after April 2017, I guess you won't be seeing a decision letter at the prolonged 16 week mark. VAC told me the estimate Service Standard date of 16 weeks is now lapse by 6 to 8 weeks and could be a 24 weeks wait time before getting a decision letter.
Has any one heard anything different?

Furthermore, the VAC operator had an abrupt grouchy attitude with me...
Pretty much what I got from our conversation was....IT WILL GET THERE WHEN IT GETS THERE!

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Post by Teager on Wed 13 Sep 2017, 15:30

I applied CIA April 1st and my VAC says I was out at step 3 April 1st as well. I previously applied when it was PIA and was denied. I still have not received a decision yet and am on my 24th week. I have inquired bit was simply told that the amount of applications coming in has slowed everything down. I continue to wait.

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Post by Teager on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 14:38

Received a favourable decision today. So a full 24 weeks for a decision. Only problem is I don't see any funds being back dates to date of application only this months payment of CIA. Am I correct that VAC should pay back to date of application which is April 1st for me?

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Post by Guest on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 15:11

Teager wrote:Received a favourable decision today. So a full 24 weeks for a decision. Only problem is I don't see any funds being back dates to date of application only this months payment of CIA. Am I correct that VAC should pay back to date of application which is April 1st for me?

Congrats on getting approved Teager.

You should get back paid from the date of application, if you were to contact VAC they should be able to see it in the system, it just may not of have been finalized or sent yet.

Career Impact Allowance

When allowance payable

39 The career impact allowance under subsection 38(2) and an increase to the career impact allowance under subsection 38(3) begin to be payable on the latest of

(a.) the day on which the application for the allowance or increase, as the case may be, is made;

(b.) the day that is one year prior to the day on which the application for the allowance or increase, as the case may be, is approved; and

(c.) the day after the day on which the member is released from the Canadian Forces.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-16.8/page-5.html

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Post by Vet1234 on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 16:13

I agree with Trooper, you SHOULD get back pay to the date of application, but I had a different experience. They dated my CIA to the date in which they received all the information from my doctor, not the date which i applied. VAC claimed that my application was only considered "complete" when they received the med info. I disagree. Your CM or an intake worker can give you specifics.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Teager on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 21:54

Thanks Trooper and Vet1234.

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Post by pinger on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 00:12

Happy for you Teager, Thumbs up  ! Wink
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Post by By the Bay on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 13:42

Teager,
That is GREAT news that you were approved for CIA! 🎉🎉🎉
It makes me so happy to hear that more of us are getting approved for CIA under the new revised benefit.
And a big thank you for confirming the 24 week waiting period.
Now I don't have to wonder if VAC was randomly making up their ridiculously long waiting decisions dates!

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Post by Rifleman on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 17:07

Great news teager congrats take care

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Teager on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 20:10

Thanks everyone. I hope everyone else waiting also receives a positive outcome.

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Post by Teager on Mon 25 Sep 2017, 17:05

Just to update I received the back pay to April 1st just took a few days to show up. Also got the letter today. Turns out when I applied under PIA they denied me for no good reason this time they accepted me due to my spinal injury. I guess different decision makers have different opinions. Just keep applying even if denied you never know.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Dannypaj on Wed 27 Sep 2017, 09:31

Your claim is at the decision making level. All your supporting documentation was received on June 15, 2017. Although we strive to provide a decision within 6 weeks, provided a previous CIA decision has been completed, we are currently experiencing a higher than normal volume of applications.

Is there anyone else here on CSAT awaiting on the CIA Supplement?
What is the usual time frame?
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Tilap61 on Wed 27 Sep 2017, 18:04

Took 24 weeks for teager above to get his. I applied back in June 6th and in at the same stage as you

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Teager on Wed 27 Sep 2017, 18:11

Danny is waiting for the CIA supplement but my bet is supplement and anything CIA related is 24 weeks.

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