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Post by ScottyG on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 20:28

Vet 1234 How long did you wait for an answer to your appeal? Did you involve the BPA in doig so?

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Post by Vet1234 on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 20:03

appeal the date citing a lack of clarity on documents needed to make a decision and poor case management oversight.
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Post by Vet1234 on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 20:01

I have an appeal in for my PIA as well. An application that is not complete (insufficient or non complete) should not reach adjudication. there is no checklist for a CIA application and the ombudsmen agrees that an application that reaches adjudication and is incomplete is the result of a lack of due diligence on the part of a CM.
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Post by ScottyG on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 19:02

I never received my  letter of explaination. I will review it when it arrives, had to request a dupilate copy.  My original application was rejected based on no current med, so I appealed  and submitted a current med and was approved for CIA not CIA s.

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Post by Vet1234 on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 18:52

they should date it back
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Post by ScottyG on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 18:48

I am curious about when you appeal CIA &/or CIA s and you win the appeal what date do they use for back payment?

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Post by ScottyG on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 18:41

Vet 1234
I was deemed DEC many months ago May 2017 . do they back date if its an appeal and you win?

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Post by Vet1234 on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 18:35

that happened to me. I applied for both at the same time. at the time of my CIA application I hadn't been deemed TPI yet. The decision letter said no CIAS because I wasn't TPI. I re-applied online and called VAC. I was approved the supplement with in a week.
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Post by ScottyG on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 17:56

Totally confused will contact them next week. Maybe there is some lag time when you file for CIA and CIAs at the same time. Once you get CIA and have DEC it should be automatic. Has anyone else applied for both on the same date and received delays in the awarding both benefits at the same time?

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Guest on Sat 12 Aug 2017, 06:27

ScottyG wrote:Question I got approved for CIA but not CIA S i have the DEC approved why wouldnt i get CIAs ?

Has anyone else had this happen ?

Why wouldn't you get CIAS?

If I was approved for the CIA and was deemed DEC, but was denied CIAS, I would contact VAC to ask them why I was denied the CIAS, and I would reference the following to them:

CIA supplement

Veterans who receive the Career Impact Allowance, and who are deemed to have diminished earning capacity, are also eligible for the career impact allowance supplement.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/transition/rehabilitation/career-impact-allowance


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Post by ScottyG on Fri 11 Aug 2017, 23:20

Question I got approved for CIA but not CIA S i have the DEC approved why wouldnt i get CIAs ?

Has anyone else had this happen ?

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Post by ScottyG on Wed 09 Aug 2017, 19:59

answer found

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Post by bigrex on Thu 03 Aug 2017, 12:15

Well according to VAC website, a CIA application should only take 16 weeks, like disability awards, but that clock only starts when they have all the necessary documentation. And last year, they were only able to meet that standard 52% of the times.

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by By the Bay on Thu 03 Aug 2017, 10:27

Has anyone who applied in March or April receive their decision letter yet for CIA? I called VAC this morning to find out the current Service Standard timeline on completing CIA applications. The VAC lady said that they are only a few weeks behind in completing CIA application and that most applications were being completed in the 12 to 16 weeks timeframe! My husband called an hour later to inquire about a different matter and he also asked about CIA Service Standard timeline. VAC person said 18 to 24 weeks waiting times! So which is it? 12 to 16 weeks or 18 to 24 weeks! scratch
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Guest on Wed 02 Aug 2017, 17:20

Here's the deal on the amounts a Veteran @ 100% fully receiving benefits from the old pension act.

The numbers posted in the above post are absolutely correct, I provided a link the other day which I'll provide again at the end of this post proving those numbers to be correct.

To make it a bit more interesting using the 2017 numbers from the link, Disability Pension Rates, let's take a Single Veteran with a 100% Disability fully from the Pension Act,

1. Disability Pension

2. Veterans Independence Program

3. Attendance Allowance

4. Exceptional Incapacity Allowance

5. Clothing Allowance

No Spouse, no children and you don't even need the full grade of the allowances to easily reach the $5000.00 tax free Monthly amount.

Just the above, forget about anything else, the point is no matter how one cuts it or slices it, the New Veterans Charter does not come close to the security of the old pension act.

Further to this it is a fact that pre 2006 a Veteran at 100% could have one visit from their case manager for all the above benefits to be applied and approved for, One Visit!

It is my view that this new charter wasn't so much about saving money via taxes, but more geared towards securing those bureaucrats who enacted the charter ensuring long term security in the form of employment for themselves.

Those old pension days secured all disabled Veterans without adding any pressure of rehab or transition BS that is only a problem because the disabled Veteran does not have the lifelong security that once was in place.

I need not have to go any further, because the facts speak for themselves, the link of rates speaks for itself.

The reason there's so much confusion and frustration today is because of the above facts.

2017 Disability Pension Rates:

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/pdf/services/disability-pension/Disability-Pension-Rates-2017.pdf

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