Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

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Post by ScottyG on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 20:41

You being told stuff i havent heard. The CIA program are not behind. DAwards are behind. Called Veteran affairs they said no indication that CIA decisions are delayed. I was told they get notice if any department is behind. Butyou are both at stage 3........ so maybe they told me BS ...Wow thats the 1st time for that ......

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Post by Artie Simm on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 22:16

ScottyG wrote:You being told stuff i havent heard. The CIA program are not behind. DAwards are behind. Called Veteran affairs they said no indication that CIA decisions are delayed. I was told they get notice if any department is behind. Butyou are both at stage 3........ so maybe they told me BS  ...Wow thats the 1st time for that ......
I think the backlog quote is on the MYVAC page if you go to claims you have submitted and where they are at.
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Post by pinger on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 22:29

Artie wrote " mine sits as well CIA stage 3 --- I filed in March, so 12 weeks puts it end June, then another 16-20 weeks after that just to probably find out i`ve been denied."

I have gone through all this shyte and then some. Just my 2 cents... short of the 400 new VaC hires coming up to speed (should be). Hell, expect to be denied by November. Anything better than that is fracking gravy.

Approach another cm ? ... HAVE THEM VISIT YOU. That's part of their job.
One way or another Artie, if you need the assistance or benefits of VaC you gotta deal with them. And you DON'T have to do it alone hunkered down somewhere either.

Support is out there if you need it, but walking away from it won't help.

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Post by Artie Simm on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 23:04

pinger wrote:Artie wrote " mine sits as well CIA stage 3 --- I filed in March, so 12 weeks puts it end June, then another 16-20 weeks after that just to probably find out i`ve been denied."

I have gone through all this shyte and then some. Just my 2 cents... short of the 400 new VaC hires coming up to speed (should be). Hell, expect to be denied by November. Anything better than that is fracking gravy.

Approach another cm ? ... HAVE THEM VISIT YOU. That's part of their job.
One way or another Artie, if you need the assistance or benefits of VaC you gotta deal with them. And you DON'T have to do it alone hunkered down somewhere either.

Support is out there if you need it, but walking away from it won't help.

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I think that is part of my hesitation, if I jump through all of VAc`s hoops and then get denied I`m liable to go off like a volcano rather that calmly ask for a second opinion or whatever the appropriate response is. I know some out there have the patience to keep re-applying but I`m just tired of it all.
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Post by ScottyG on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 00:38

Based on what i read and how i read between the lines. I have little doubt you will be denied! You may have to appeal and battle but if you stick with it you will win.
Artie each and everyone of us has had to stay focused. Seeked info here and dial veteran affairs when ever you dont have clarity about a program or service.

YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS .... THERE HAS BEEN LITERALLY 100'S OF ILL VETERANS IN AND OUT OF HERE SOME IN MUCH WORST SHAPE THAN ANY OF US THAT HAVE SUCCEED.....YOU WILL TOO ....

On a lighter note if you jump through all the hoops America Got Talent needs "Veterans with PTSD that can tap dance" ----since you mentioned you had good arms and legs  Artie  SmileSmile cheers cheers cheers

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Post by Artie Simm on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 00:47

ScottyG wrote:Based on what i read and how i read between the lines. I have little doubt you will be denied! You may have to appeal and battle but if you stick with it you will win.
Artie each and everyone of us has had to stay focused. Seeked info here and dial veteran affairs when ever you dont have clarity about a program or service.

YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS .... THERE HAS BEEN LITERALLY 100'S OF ILL VETERANS IN AND OUT OF HERE SOME IN MUCH WORST SHAPE THAN ANY OF US THAT HAVE SUCCEED.....YOU WILL TOO ....

On a lighter note if you jump through all the hoops America Got Talent needs "Veterans with PTSD that can tap dance" ----since you mentioned you had good arms and legs  Artie  SmileSmile cheers cheers cheers
so for those that succeeded here, is that VAC modus operandi , your first claim is always denied? So they test you to see if you`ve got the patience to do it all again or just put a gun in your mouth?. If that happens they can keep their money, I`m not going to grovel, and to clarify I`ve got two good legs but only 1 good arm, so my hoop climbing isn`t all that good.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Trooper on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 05:56

Not all CIA applications are denied the first time around. Many have got favorable decisions on their first application. However, the same goes for unfavorable decisions, many have not been successful the first time around. We are all unique in the medical condition or conditions we have, the severity of those conditions. Therefore, it is difficult to assume any outcome in any given application. The bottom line is to get your application filled and sent out, if your approved, that would be great, if not, you need to appeal. Unfortunately that's the way the wheel turns with VAC, if they were to approve all applicants, they would put themselves out of work. Nobody's going to knock on your door with any benefits, it is left to the Veteran to apply for the available benefits. Basically, that's what disabled Veterans have to follow in order to have a chance in receiving the benefits that are available for application. This does add a whole lot of stress to the Veteran, however, the bottom line is you either fight for you are entitled to, or you simply give up and end up with nothing.

Many of Veterans have succeeded in their applications without the assistance of a case manager, something to keep in mind if your not comfortable with case managers.

My advice is to take it one step at a time, don't allow yourself to get to overwhelmed with all the BS associated with applying. We can guide you, or assist you here with any support you may need. Just don't allow the system to get the better of you, stand up for what you are entitled to. When frustration sets in, take a step back and allow yourself the room to recover.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by ScottyG on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 07:15

Worth Repeating:
My advice is to take it one step at a time, don't allow yourself to get to overwhelmed with all the BS associated with applying. We can guide you, or assist you here with any support you may need. Just don't allow the system to get the better of you, stand up for what you are entitled to. When frustration sets in, take a step back and allow yourself the room to recover.
My advice is to take it one step at a time, don't allow yourself to get to overwhelmed with all the BS associated with applying. We can guide you, or assist you here with any support you may need. Just don't allow the system to get the better of you, stand up for what you are entitled to. When frustration sets in, take a step back and allow yourself the room to recover.


Artie: You will be helping others within 12 months! Smile  Most of us have the "Tshirt" from our battle scars and veteran affairs struggles. It a long ways to Tiperary but we made it and you have the choice too. Chose Well !

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Post by bosn181 on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 08:12

some cm would tell you that you need to wait to see how things go my cm got me to wait two years before making me the new dec but i have friends that pushed back at the cm and got it in just under 1 year and i am sure others even faster they told me they wanted to see if i was able to be retrained with going back to school which i was unable to handle sitting in a classroom for 8 hrs a day everyday if i could i would have just found a job instead not much difference sitting in a classroom 8 hrs a day or working 8 hrs a day in vacs eyes so put in for it and stay on top of them and if your doc says does not recommend returning to work then that would make it easier for your cm to make up there mind

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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Vet1234 on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 10:09

Defer, deny, and then you die.
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Post by ScottyG on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 11:18

Vet 1234 ..thats not TRUE ...your still kicking! Smile

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Post by Artie Simm on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 13:37

"...that's the way the wheel turns with VAC, if they were to approve all applicants, they would put themselves out of work. Nobody's going to knock on your door with any benefits, it is left to the Veteran to apply for the available benefits...."
Having had time to cool down/reflect I see your point about not approving every single application,all I can do is do what the army taught me, watch and shoot.figuratively if not literally.
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Re: Career Impact Allowance (CIA) and the Career Impact Allowance Supplement (CIAS)

Post by Rustytheviking on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 18:56

I was approved dec this past week. I had been fighting my case mangler for the better part of 2 years till I had enough. He felt I didn't deserve, despite not being able to work. Took a whole 3 weeks from start to finish

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Post by czerv on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 20:14

Rustytheviking, could you please shed some light how the process ,assessment for DEC looks like? I will be asking for one soon.

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Post by Rustytheviking on Tue 20 Jun 2017, 23:10

I called the 1-800 number and asked the service person to send me the application package. My cm called a few days later to argue with me. I told him enough, I want to go through the process. He sent a form to my doc, she sent a detailed explanation why I can't work.

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