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Post by RobbieRoyal on Sat 06 May 2017, 16:20

Is he the only FIBBER hahaha don't think so
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Post by Bruce72 on Sat 06 May 2017, 19:39

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I almost pissed myself laughing at this Robbie. Ha ha ha.



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Post by pinger on Sat 06 May 2017, 21:27

Their album ain't in my top 10, but the " piano man" must feel so left out Sad
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Sajjan could have been exactly the defence minister Canada needed

Post by Trooper on Sun 07 May 2017, 16:07

Sajjan could have been exactly the defence minister Canada needed, and now he’s ruined that



National Post View | May 5, 2017


Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan during question period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Tuesday, May 2, 2017.

This week, as National Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan continued to face strong criticism of his now-acknowledged embellishment of his role in Canada’s 2006 Afghan War offensive, Operation Medusa, the public had another opportunity to see Sajjan in action. It was unfortunate that what could have been Sajjan-the-politician’s finest hour instead became a footnote to the self-inflicted scandal.

The event was a talk given by the minister on Wednesday, on the Liberal government’s plan for the military. The remarks were exactly what Canadians had originally been promised from their new “badass” defence minister. Indeed, it was remarkably refreshing to hear a Canadian defence minister (of any party) so clearly state what those who closely watch military issues in Canada have long grasped — the military is a disaster. And it’s unforgivable that the minister sidelined this critical message via his own inexplicable, and indefensible, grandstanding.

But first, to his remarks: Sajjan confirmed that chronic underfunding, stretching back generations, has left all three branches of the military stretched beyond their breaking point. The Navy has rusted out. It has no destroyers, critical to modern operations, and no supply ships, leaving our only remaining heavy ships — our newly retrofitted frigates — either dependent on allies for basic supplies or limited to coastal waters, the world’s most heavily armed fisheries patrol. The Air Force’s major equipment either needs outright replacement (our elderly search-and-rescue fleet; our diminishing squadrons of nearly 40-year-old CF-18 jets) or mid-life upgrades (our utility helicopters). The Army’s units are understrength and the shuttering of recruiting offices hasn’t helped. While much of its equipment still has some life in it — Afghan War-era crash-procurements helped — it’s only a matter of time before it, too, will require costly replacements and upgrades. And even a well equipped force can’t do its job properly without constant training, and Canada’s units are getting less and less of that.

What could have been Sajjan-the-politician’s finest hour instead became a footnote to his self-inflicted scandal.


Fielding a suitably sized, properly equipped and acceptably trained military is hellishly expensive. Militaries burn money. But grown-up countries maintain their forces, anyway, because that’s the cost-of-admission into the ranks of nations actually capable of asserting, in a meaningful way, effective power on the global stage. Canada, of course, is not an imperial superpower, would never want to be and couldn’t ever be if it tried. But it is a country with an enormous land mass that requires securing, vast air approaches that need patrolling, and three oceans across which it trades with the whole world. Meeting our own domestic needs is going to be expensive, and that doesn’t even touch on honouring our treaty obligations and values abroad.

Sajjan clearly gets this. As he warned on Wednesday, our “status quo spending on defence will not even maintain a status quo of capabilities.” In plainer language, we are starving our already small and poorly equipped force to death. This cannot be allowed to continue, and Sajjan says it won’t. The Liberals, he says, are preparing a “significant investment” in defence. “When Canadians hear the defence investment that we are going to be putting in,” he said, “it’s going to be significant. It’s going to be significant because of the hole that we need to come out of.” Sajjan also, pleasingly, didn’t spare past Liberal governments from criticism. He noted this was a failure owned by successive governments, meaning both Conservative and Liberal. And as we’ve written here many times before, in this he’s certainly right.

Sajjan’s words aren’t themselves an investment. We’ll wait to see what the Liberals actually bring to the table, and we confess we have our doubts as to their sincerity. Canada’s post-Second World War history on defence policy speaks, in tragic terms, for itself. But Sajjan, at least, talked about the issue as it truly is. It was what a soldier-turned-defence-minister should sound like.

In his speech, Sajjan confirmed that chronic underfunding has left all three branches of the military stretched to their breaking point.


And that’s a shame, because no one heard him. Oh, sure, the usual suspects (including this editorial board) paid attention. But those same suspects have been sounding this alarm for years. The effectiveness, or lack thereof, of such warnings is all too evident. The only thing people wanted to talk about after his remarks was his own future. Will he resign? Be fired, or shuffled out?

That’s what makes Sajjan’s unforced error—his boasts of playing a key role in military operations that he was part of, but only in a support function—so tragic. Placing him at Defence had the hallmark of a home run for the Liberals. He is a serious man, capable of serious contributions to Canada’s place in the world. Now, his ego has frittered away his credibility, and has likely destroyed his ability to effectively lead the military and represent Canada on the world stage. If he cannot command the confidence and respect of the troops he oversees, it is hard to see how he can continue to manage a ministry for which he is otherwise so well suited. It’s tragic, and all too typical of what politics can do to people. Sajjan the soldier would have known that. Pity Sajjan the politician so soon forgot.

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Post by RobbieRoyal on Sun 07 May 2017, 19:29

And he wont stop lol
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Conservatives plot political attack on Sajjan with symbolic confidence motion

Post by Trooper on Mon 08 May 2017, 05:56

Conservatives plot political attack on Sajjan with symbolic confidence motion



Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan holds a press conference at National Defence Headquarters in Ottawa to discuss open and transparent public consultations on Canada's defence policy on Wednesday, April 6, 2016.

Lee Berthiaume, The Canadian Press
Published Monday, May 8, 2017


OTTAWA - Harjit Sajjan will find himself back in the spotlight and on the hot seat today as the Conservatives use their so-called opposition day to renew their attacks against the defence minister's credibility.

Conservative defence critic James Bezan says he will table a non-binding motion in the House of Commons expressing a loss of confidence in Sajjan, and which MPs will have a chance to vote on.

That vote will be entirely symbolic, and has little chance of passing given the Liberals hold a majority of seats in the House, but it could still make for another long day for the embattled defence minister.

Sajjan, a former soldier and Afghan war veteran, has faced sustained fire for having exaggerated his role in Operation Medusa, a key battle involving the Canadian Forces in Afghanistan in 2006.

The defence minister has since apologized, but the Conservatives continue to call for his resignation, accusing Sajjan of a pattern of misleading comments that they say have hurt his standing with the military.

That includes his assertions about the urgent need for Super Hornet fighter jets and that allies didn't object when Canada withdrew its CF-18s from Iraq.

They have also asked Speaker Geoff Regan to rule on whether Sajjan misled members of Parliament when he blamed the previous government for cutting the tax benefits available for Canadian soldiers in Kuwait.

"Some would say this is just politics," Bezan said. "This is more than that. It is quite troubling that we have a minister of national defence who has a track record of being untruthful."

Sajjan's spokeswoman, Jordan Owens, said the minister will make a brief appearance and address in the House of Commons on Monday, but that he is more focused on the Liberal government's forthcoming new defence policy.

"While the opposition chooses to focus on a mistake for which Minister Sajjan has already apologized, our government continues to deliver results for Canadians, especially our women and men in uniform," Owens said in an email.

"We look forward to the upcoming release of Canada's new defence policy, which will present a plan to care for our military personnel and their families."

On Sunday, Transport Minister Marc Garneau was dispatched in Sajjan's stead to talk about the coming defence policy on television political shows, presumably part of a Liberal strategy to keep the focus on policy and off Sajjan's credibility.

Garneau told CTV's Question Period the new defence policy will be aimed redressing years of chronic under-funding of the military by successive governments. He said it will involve "significant expenditures" but refused to elaborate.

In addition to the Conservative non-confidence motion Monday, the NDP is expected to pile onto Sajjan as well by raising questions about how much he knew about the mistreatment of Afghan detainees more than a decade ago.

NDP Leader Tom Mulcair has asked the ethics commissioner to take another look into whether Sajjan was in a conflict of interest when he rejected calls for an inquiry into the Afghan detainee issue last year.

Mulcair says Sajjan's comments on Operation Medusa call into question his previous assertion to ethics commissioner Mary Dawson that he was not involved in, nor had any knowledge, about Afghan detainees.

Dawson has said she is reviewing Mulcair's request.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservatives-plot-political-attack-on-sajjan-with-symbolic-confidence-motion-1.3402777

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Post by RobbieRoyal on Mon 08 May 2017, 08:05

RESIGN.............. HELL NO HE IS A SOURCE OF COMIC RELIEF
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Post by Bruce72 on Mon 08 May 2017, 09:14

I still can't believe Minister Sajjan said what he did. He's underminded his credibility beyond repair. The honourable thing to do now would be to resign.

Don't get me wrong Robbie, I have to be honest, your posts are pretty funny. Whenever I see you've posted on this subject, I know I'll have a good laugh.

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Post by RobbieRoyal on Mon 08 May 2017, 10:07

we gotta laugh after being slapped by posers like this Bruce
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Post by Bruce72 on Mon 08 May 2017, 10:57

No doubt Robbie ha ha. Keep up the good work!

The unfortunate thing is even if our men and women still in uniform have lost faith in Sajjan, they can't voice their concerns. And we all know why.

You've always got to respect the rank, but we all served under some officers we knew were simply disasters in uniform. There were some officers and senior NCO's I would have followed into battle to my death if need be without hesitation, because i respected and admired them, then there were others I secretly hoped would be among the first casualties on the field. I know how that sounds and I won't make any excuses for it.

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Post by RobbieRoyal on Mon 08 May 2017, 14:40

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Post by RobbieRoyal on Mon 08 May 2017, 14:41

A final One ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why you ask.............. because its 2017
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Post by Bruce72 on Mon 08 May 2017, 15:10

Ah yes, the cesspool ha ha ha.

Robbie, this one is so hilarious.

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