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Post by By the Bay on Fri 11 May 2018, 21:08

I agree with Bigrex! I don't think VAC will offer retro payments since this policy change is voluntary. And like other VAC policy changes, they will implement it on a future date! If it was a class-action lawsuit and they were ordered to repay us retro pay, then that would be a different story!
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Post by bigrex on Fri 11 May 2018, 19:54

If they do implement the change, most likely any increased pensions will only be paid going forward, with no retroactive payments. After all, this is already going to cost them a fortune. I also suspect that they plan on everything being done rather quickly, otherwise they wouldn't have told BPA to delay hearings, until the final decision is made. .
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Post by BinRat on Fri 11 May 2018, 19:27

Well that would be nice cause I have 2 claims that were only awarded partial entitlements for.. <-- good news

Now on the other hand <--- bad news now the stress and worrying on how they are going to implement the change(s) and if they
are gonna do retro. Implement and go forth Whew, okay.. Implement and retro back to date of award an OMG moment

But that aint gonna be awhile yet I can guess

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Post by By the Bay on Fri 11 May 2018, 14:46

bigrex wrote: I don't think even some of the thickest heads at VAC, would agree that continuing to allow some PA veterans, to have their pensions reduced by up to 80%, while NVC veterans get 80%, at a minimum, would be a good idea. But I bet if that happened, we would finally see Legion command get off their collective arses and fight for veterans again.
That would be nice to see! I find that the Legion "Command" spends way too much time kissing the butts of †politicians and bureaucrats! The Legion's dynamics changed after the Conservatives introduced the New Veteran Charter! The Legion use to go to bat for us! You would think they would fight for those Veteran's who are under the NVC because it is unconstitutional and discriminatory against Veterans. What do they do at those VAC Stakeholder Summitts? Mostly they are playing games on their iPhones!
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Post by bigrex on Fri 11 May 2018, 09:05

I don't think even some of the thickest heads at VAC, would agree that continuing to allow some PA veterans, to have their pensions reduced by up to 80%, while NVC veterans get 80%, at a minimum, would be a good idea. But I bet if that happened, we would finally see Legion command get off their collective arses and fight for veterans again.
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Post by By the Bay on Thu 10 May 2018, 23:10

Nemo wrote:Is this just for those umder the NVC? I am 4/5 under the pension act so guess no benefit here for me.
I am under the Pension Act as well!†
VRAB said, " all partial entitlements files are in abeyance until they received word from VAC on how the changes were going to be implemented." It was not indicated to me that the changes would only apply to the NVC Veterans. I was under the impression that the entitlement changes were for both NVC and Pension Act! If it was only intended for NVC, I would think that VRAB would have commenced with tribunal hearings for those Veterans under the Pension Act instead of halting both groups.†
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Post by By the Bay on Thu 10 May 2018, 22:36

sports1977 wrote:For my Hearing i have 2/5 Entitlement, just recently been approved about 2 months ago.
Will that change this automatically to 4/5 or is this only done when someone appeal it.

If they do change it does that mean they will be sending another lump sum to people with Entitlement 1/5 , 2/5, and 3/5 if this is the direction they are going.

so in my case i was assess with 9% for my hearing but because i was 2/5 i only got 4%. Would this change my percentage to about 6% then.
As of now, we don't know if it's going to be automatically changed in our files and I really don't like to assume! However, in the past, it has been the norm for VAC to review and revise Veterans' file when amendments are made in policies. But common sense would dictate that if they make the changes automatically, it would lessen the overloaded system that they are trying to fix! It would not make sense for them to make us appeal for the revised amount...it would open the flood gates for more Veterans to appeal their partial entitlement calculations.
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Post by Newfie on Thu 10 May 2018, 18:53

I went back thru my assessment worksheet and it says what the entitled condition is and the current assessment 5/5 then the %.

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Post by Newfie on Thu 10 May 2018, 18:34

Thanks Bigrex. Guess I gonna have to call VAC. My approval letter only says the % and then I have a work sheet showing what I received in back pay. I have only one disability approved at 49%

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Post by bigrex on Thu 10 May 2018, 16:06

well, the only way I can think of, is requesting the info from VAC, or if you want to dig out the approval letter. Your percentage doesn't really tell me anything, because if you have one approved severe condition, at 4/5 or 5/5, or you could have several conditions, each at 1/5 or 2/5.
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Post by Newfie on Thu 10 May 2018, 14:58

Ok I am having a blond moment. I am pensioned at 49%. How do I find out what 5this I have. I cannot recall evening seeing what it is? Can some one explain it to me. Thanks.

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Post by sports1977 on Thu 10 May 2018, 13:58

For my Hearing i have 2/5 Entitlement, just recently been approved about 2 months ago.
Will that change this automatically to 4/5 or is this only done when someone appeal it.

If they do change it does that mean they will be sending another lump sum to people with Entitlement 1/5 , 2/5, and 3/5 if this is the direction they are going.

so in my case i was assess with 9% for my hearing but because i was 2/5 i only got 4%. Would this change my percentage to about 6% then.

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Post by Nemo on Thu 10 May 2018, 13:50

Is this just for those umder the NVC? I am 4/5 under the pension act so guess no benefit here for me.
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Post by AirLog on Thu 10 May 2018, 13:05

Thanks.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by By the Bay on Thu 10 May 2018, 11:44

Air log,†

The goal of the policy change has to do with Veteranís Pension Entitlement calculations! Veterans who have partial entitlement of 1/5, 2/5 and 3/5 will graduate to 4/5th of their pension. I was told the goal was 4/5th but the final numbers have not come as of yet! So please use 4/5 as a hypothetical number! VRAB are still waiting for the final number but they are confident that it will stay 4/5th! So someone who currently receives 1/5 of 75% will be changed to 4/5 of 75%. That is VAC goal! To make the entitlement calculation more generous so Veterans wonít feel the need to Appeal! Side note: This VAC policy change will not change other benefits such as CIA, CIAS, etc that is under reassessment or VRAB Appeal....It is for Pension Entitlement calculations only.


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