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Post by AirLog on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 15:02

Thanks Teager. I will post the end result.

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Post by Teager on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 12:00

In that case they may just go to grade 3. I think you still have a shot at it if you have DEC. Just FYI when I first applied CIA I was denied. I applied again when they changed the name to CIA from PIA and they granted me grade 3 simply based on the fact that someone else had a different opinion on my injury then the first. So it does matter who ends up looking at your application and making ng that decision. I think there's the hard asses at VAC and then there's some with a heart and some understanding.

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Post by AirLog on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 11:46

Thanks Teager. I have retired from the CF 5 years ago with 33.5 years of service; 31 pensionable. With that said I don't think that I would ever qualify for CIA.

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Post by Teager on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 11:36

Yes, you do have to be approved CIA for the supplement but getting DEC could help that. From the policy for gade 2 "
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Have been determined to have a DEC, have the potential to earn between 33.4% to 66.6% of their imputed income, and have more than 5 years left to serve; or
Have been determined to have a DEC, have the potential to earn a maximum of 33.3% of their imputed income and have more than 5 years left to serve and up to and including 15 years left to serve."
So if you have less than 5 years to serve they might do grade 3.

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Post by AirLog on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 11:25

Thanks Teager. Correct me if I am wrong here, but, to receive the supplement I would have to be in receipt of CIA. I have been declined CIA so no supplement. I am (T) ELB so if I am designated DEC I would continue to receive ELB until I am 65. This would be good. Not sure how to have VAC change their mind an approve me for CIA but that is a different debate altogether.

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Post by czerv on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 11:17

AirLog, you are very lucky to have a CM that suggested to you to do the DEC papers. DO IT>
My CM (giving her last chance with some papers that I submitted) and then will start writing letters, including complaint to her Social Workers 'Union'/College or whatever they have.
She has been doing nothing for me in over the last 3 years. All was my own initiative (thanks to many suggestions from this Veteran side!)
Do the paper work or as your CM to do it for you.

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Post by Teager on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 11:06

Air log just to add once DEC you get another $1120 a month with the supplement. This is a benefit that will NOT be available come April 1, 2019 but will be grandfathered for those who have it. Just something to consider.

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Post by AirLog on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 11:00

Thanks for the reply Teentitan. My CM has indicated to me that he will be consulting with the VAC Medical Officers to see if I would qualify and that he would handle the staff work. I just don't want to bother with any of the paperwork. Not sure if I qualify or not but I am at 109% with some approved claims not having a percentage assigned. They aren't bracketed claims so not sure why they don't have a % assigned. Anyway I am hoping for a DEC designation as it may assist me with my CIA application that was denied (both initial application and an appeal).

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Post by Teentitan on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 10:50

I've done this before; get your CM to fill out any paperwork for you (because it's VAC and there will be paperwork) and put a post-it note on where you need to sign. Sign it and mail it. You might have to go to your family doctor for paperwork too.

I have been saying this for years. Your CM has CSA's under them. It is their job to help a vet fill out paperwork when asked. So all you have to do is ask. If the CM or CSA has questions they will call you over the phone.

I know it's hard to trust VAC because the only human contact vets have with VAC is with CM's and CSA's. So all negative incidents with VAC a vet runs into it is, by nature, blamed on the one person you have contact with....your CM.

CM's and CSA's know they are your only person to person contact a vet has with VAC and they try their damnedest to help vets. Yes there is crappy CM's out there but you have another option....ask for a new CM. Call the District Office Manager and tell the person you want a new CM as you feel that CM does not have your best interest in their heart.

AirLog if your CM is recommending DEC there is a 99% chance it will be approved as this is the one benefit their input is highly regarded (that is the way it was described to me by my CM). So you should put the application in, the one you are going to ask your CM to fill out for you.
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Post by AirLog on Sun 24 Jun 2018, 10:35

My CM asked a few months ago if I wanted to be considered for DEC. I declined as I didn't want someone coming to my home and invading my privacy. A recent CM meeting indicated that my CM was going to go to VAC medical officer and see if I should be considered DEC. I saw no objection to this as no one will be coming to my house. Would this be the only thing that needs to be done? That is having VAC medical officers review my file with my CM and declare me DEC? I don't want to fill out anymore forms or go see my personal medical doctor to have him fill out more VAC forms. Your opinion?

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