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PIA and Supplement

Post by puddleduk2 on Fri 19 Oct 2012, 08:39

Is the PIA and its Supplement deductible from SISIP LTD?

couldnt find a topic or any reference to this after performing a topic and forum search on this site.


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Re: PIA and Supplement

Post by bigrex on Fri 19 Oct 2012, 09:04

It shouldn't be, since SISIP states "monthly income benefits awarded under the Pension Act".
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Re: PIA and Supplement

Post by Guest on Fri 19 Oct 2012, 09:14

ya know guys im pritty sure it is ore was anyway.i will take a look later but they are under the nvc not the pa.i do recall with a great deal of certanty that they are not deducted from elb.
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Re: PIA and Supplement

Post by Greatfoot on Fri 19 Oct 2012, 09:34

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Re: PIA and Supplement

Post by Guest on Fri 19 Oct 2012, 13:00

The PIA and Supplement are not deductible from ELB for sure and I would doubt very much from SISIP. The problem here is that since the NVC (CFMVRCA) arrival in Apr 2006, there can be confusion for folks under the old system, folks under the new system, and in my case I am covered under both the Pension Act and the CFMVRCA. Their is a ton of overlap and a ton of information for both VAC employees and veterans to read, try and understand, then apply to us on an individual basis. Because the PIA is named as an allowance, not income, and the supplement is just that, they would be hard pressed to calculate or include as income.

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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Oct 2012, 13:01

bigrex had an excellent point above too, regarding the SISIP application and what it states.

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Post by Guest on Fri 19 Oct 2012, 17:15

ok guys got to looking and as far as i understand what is on the sisip ltd site it is not deducted from sisip.sory for saying it might be but i did say i would look and get back to you.the info is not current as it appears the site has not been updated but here it is anyway.


What are the benefits under the LTD?

Regular Force and Class C Reserve Force:
•The LTD benefits for the Regular Force equal 75% of salary on release, less other relevant sources of income*.
•For Class C Reserve Force the LTD benefits equal 75% of monthly salary ,applicable at the time the illness or injury occurred, less other relevant sources of income*.

For the purpose of benefit calculation, the minimum salary shall be equal to that of a Corporal-basic.

Primary Reserve Force on Class A and B Service:
•For Primary reservists on Class A or B service of 180 days or less, the LTD benefits, when added to income from other sources**, equals 75% of a deemed monthly basic salary of $2,700 or 75% of your additional optional coverage if purchased.
•For Primary reservists on Class B service of more than 180 days, the LTD benefits equal 75% of your monthly salary applicable at the time the injury or illness occurred, less other relevant sources of income**. For the purpose of benefit calculation, the minimum salary shall be equal to Corporal-basic.

*Other relevant sources of income include:
•The Canadian Forces Superannuating Act (CFSA) benefits;
•The primary benefits under the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) or the Quebec Pension Plan (QPP);
•The monthly PA disability benefits (including the dependent benefits and any retroactive payments)†; and
•Any employment income.
†The lump-sum Disability Award under the New Veterans Charter is not considered a "relevant source of income" and therefore does not offset the LTD benefits.

**For the Primary Reserve Force on Class A or B service, other relevant sources of income include all of the above and, in addition, benefits payable under:

•A LTD coverage provided through another employer;
•Other disability employment plans, such as workers compensation;
•An automobile insurance;
•An employee pension plan; and
•The Government Employee Compensation Act (GECA).

Please note that once the Insurer approves your claim, you are paid the full amount of the LTD benefits up front with the understanding that any subsequent awards received under the CPP/QPP or Pension Act (PA), including the dependent benefits for PA and any retroactive payments, will have to be reimbursed to the Insurer and, if applicable, your monthly benefits will be adjusted accordingly .

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